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wirelessdog · 28 July 2016, 07:43 AM

http://www.ebay.com/itm/222200998534...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Lacks pictures, seller has many items listed. Anything on the surface that jumps out?

DevinH · 28 July 2016, 07:45 AM

I wouldn't buy it from just those pics.

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cda555 · 28 July 2016, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by DevinH

I wouldn't buy it from just those pics.

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Agree. Seller only has 66 rating and it isn't even 100%.

DevinH · 28 July 2016, 07:49 AM

It says "sold" did you buy it?

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wirelessdog · 28 July 2016, 07:49 AM

Beyond the seller's feedback, is there anything that stands out as actually being wrong?

MonBK · 28 July 2016, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by cda555

Agree. Seller only has 66 rating and it isn't even 100%.

And not a single watch, I would stay away.

DevinH · 28 July 2016, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by wirelessdog

Beyond the seller's feedback, is there anything that stands out as actually being wrong?

For that price you can find one somewhere else. I just can't imagine buying a Rolex on eBay.

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marcusjcw21 · 28 July 2016, 07:55 AM

I don't see anything wrong with it - especially if you use paypal. You can get your money back easy enough.. Take to an AD immediately and be sure to videotape the opening of the package, etc. That listing doesn't scare me. You don't have anything to lose if you document the opening of the package and taking it to get it authenticated.

southtexas · 28 July 2016, 08:35 AM

Listing claims it is a 168000, and that was a SS model with black dial. Is the listing incorrect, or is it a converted watch (which would be a shame!)?

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wirelessdog · 28 July 2016, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by southtexas

Listing claims it is a 168000, and that was a SS model with black dial. Is the listing incorrect, or is it a converted watch (which would be a shame!)?

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Good call. I messaged and asked just that as well as more, better pictures and serial number. Paypal gives me security of knowing I can return it but that said, I don't want to waste the time or return cost of shipping if there is an issue. I thought it was a good deal give it is a two tone.

GoingPlaces · 28 July 2016, 09:46 AM

If you have to ask...

Just buy from a reputable seller here on the forums. Too many horror stories on Ebay. People get excited because the deal looks good and then began to second guess.

Buying a nice watch should be pleasant experience, not one that leaves you worried or anxious.

marcusjcw21 · 28 July 2016, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by wirelessdog

Good call. I messaged and asked just that as well as more, better pictures and serial number. Paypal gives me security of knowing I can return it but that said, I don't want to waste the time or return cost of shipping if there is an issue. I thought it was a good deal give it is a two tone.

Keep us posted. I'm interested in hearing what transpires. Thanks.

Syed117 · 28 July 2016, 10:12 AM

Why do people do this?

Yeah, maybe it's legit, but there are enough potential issues that you should stay away. People here are telling you to stay away, but you don't want to listen. You clearly don't know what you are dealing with so you are asking the forum. What's the point in asking if you aren't going to listen to these knowledgeable and experienced people?

Who cares about PayPal protection? Why are people willing to even risk putting themselves through that frustration if something goes wrong.

It's not worth it.

If a little bit of money is make or break and you're trying to find a deal, you aren't ready.

It's been said a thousand times, but we see these ridiculous threads over and over. If you are willing to use eBay, usee a seller from the forum instead. They will fix any issues you might run into. More than just about anyone you could find on eBay.

Syed117 · 28 July 2016, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by marcusjcw21

I don't see anything wrong with it - especially if you use paypal. You can get your money back easy enough.. Take to an AD immediately and be sure to videotape the opening of the package, etc. That listing doesn't scare me. You don't have anything to lose if you document the opening of the package and taking it to get it authenticated.

This is not good advice at all.

Videotaping doesn't prove anything. Things can be repacked or it could be a different box entirely. Not sure why people think this is a good idea. It's not.

Unless he literally sets up the camera at his front door and waits for the mailman to hand him the box. Then keeps the box in frame the entire time while going to an AD. Then manages to keep it in frame all the way until it is authenticated.

That's not reasonable. It's ridiculous.

GradyPhilpott · 28 July 2016, 10:52 AM

Whoever bought that watch, if it was based on that listing, was exercising extremely poor judgement.

I'd also like to know how that turns out, but I suspect it won't turn out well.

GoingPlaces · 28 July 2016, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Syed117

Why do people do this?

Yeah, maybe it's legit, but there are enough potential issues that you should stay away. People here are telling you to stay away, but you don't want to listen. You clearly don't know what you are dealing with so you are asking the forum. What's the point in asking if you aren't going to listen to these knowledgeable and experienced people?

Who cares about PayPal protection? Why are people willing to even risk putting themselves through that frustration if something goes wrong.

It's not worth it.

If a little bit of money is make or break and you're trying to find a deal, you aren't ready.

It's been said a thousand times, but we see these ridiculous threads over and over. If you are willing to use eBay, usee a seller from the forum instead. They will fix any issues you might run into. More than just about anyone you could find on eBay.

Exactly, :thumbs: these threads are getting old.

southtexas · 28 July 2016, 01:49 PM

I looked again at pics. I noticed the extra links are mixed (two tone and SS). It also appears the warranty paper isn't included in the accessories, meaning it could've been lost or the accessories were cobbled together. Let us know what he says.

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marcusjcw21 · 28 July 2016, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Syed117

This is not good advice at all.

Videotaping doesn't prove anything. Things can be repacked or it could be a different box entirely. Not sure why people think this is a good idea. It's not.

Unless he literally sets up the camera at his front door and waits for the mailman to hand him the box. Then keeps the box in frame the entire time while going to an AD. Then manages to keep it in frame all the way until it is authenticated.

That's not reasonable. It's ridiculous.

Point taken. There are spots in which a switch could be made, and it would be next to impossible to film all of that, and the AD probably doesn't want you filming in their store. I videotape when I open a package and open the case to have evidence. Never had a problem yet.

marcusjcw21 · 28 July 2016, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by GradyPhilpott

Whoever bought that watch, if it was based on that listing, was exercising extremely poor judgement.

I'd also like to know how that turns out, but I suspect it won't turn out well.

My guess is that based on this thread he either won't pay or will contact the seller and request a refund prior to shipping.

Andad · 28 July 2016, 02:37 PM

Well it has been sold but I'll PASS anyway.

But a 168000TT blue Subdate should be in everyone's collection.

wirelessdog · 28 July 2016, 11:05 PM

I'd like to point out that the WatchOut section is for threads like this. If you don't like them, find a different section to participate in.

Good call on the mixed and cobbled parts. I messaged the seller with the question of the model being a stainless and the watch being a two toned yesterday. No response as of yet, which to me, is telling.

dysondiver · 28 July 2016, 11:11 PM

buy the seller ,,, id not be spending hard earned on that one though.

ming the merciless · 29 July 2016, 12:45 AM

Lots of really good advice regarding EBay purchases in this thread. Thanks to all who contributed.

RKTudor · 29 July 2016, 01:25 AM

"Great Condition" definitely doesn't apply. Interested to hear what happens. I've personally had a number of great Ebay experiences, but you need to protect yourself, and most importantly, be patient!! Hope this works out well for you.

77T · 29 July 2016, 01:39 AM

Based on the title of this thread, the OP bought it and was asking for input prior to paying.

IMHO that cart is before the horse. You are now committed - so IIRC, paying is expected per eBay policies.

Not a rant - just sharing in the spirit of communication.

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marcusjcw21 · 29 July 2016, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by 77T

Based on the title of this thread, the OP bought it and was asking for input prior to paying.

IMHO that cart is before the horse. You are now committed - so IIRC, paying is expected per eBay policies.

Not a rant - just sharing in the spirit of communication.

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It is expected that he pays, but if he suddenly gets a consensus opinion from an expert website advising him that he could be getting ripped off, then the seller would be well advised to choose to allow him to back out of the commitment to pay (without penalty to the buyer).

77T · 29 July 2016, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by marcusjcw21

It is expected that he pays, but if he suddenly gets a consensus opinion from an expert website advising him that he could be getting ripped off, then the seller would be well advised to choose to allow him to back out of the commitment to pay (without penalty to the buyer).

I do get that perspective from the buyer's side.

As a seller on eBay I had only one case of cold feet in a couple of hundred transactions. The seller gets billed immediately for fees which must be reversed.

I'm of the school that a prospective buyer should do homework first and not click bid or buy until sure they will fulfill their obligations.

Won't comment on the pro's and con's of this particular watch or seller - many have done a good job on that score.

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marcusjcw21 · 29 July 2016, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by 77T

I do get that perspective from the buyer's side.

As a seller on eBay I had only one case of cold feet in a couple of hundred transactions. The seller gets billed immediately for fees which must be reversed.

I'm of the school that a prospective buyer should do homework first and not click bid or buy until sure they will fulfill their obligations.

Won't comment on the pro's and con's of this particular watch or seller - many have done a good job on that score.

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I agree 100% with you on that.

Knappo 1307 · 29 July 2016, 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 77T

I do get that perspective from the buyer's side.

As a seller on eBay I had only one case of cold feet in a couple of hundred transactions. The seller gets billed immediately for fees which must be reversed.

I'm of the school that a prospective buyer should do homework first and not click bid or buy until sure they will fulfill their obligations.

Won't comment on the pro's and con's of this particular watch or seller - many have done a good job on that score.

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This!

Daytona88 · 29 July 2016, 03:40 AM

I would stay away. The seller posts it as New with Tags and as a 168000. Best case it is a total Frankenwatch.

28 July 2016, 07:43 AM	#1
wirelessdog "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Real Name: John Location: Maryland, USA Watch: Black face Sub Posts: 34	Any concerns before I pay http://www.ebay.com/itm/222200998534...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT Lacks pictures, seller has many items listed. Anything on the surface that jumps out?

28 July 2016, 08:35 AM	#9
southtexas 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Great State of TX Posts: 5,763	Listing claims it is a 168000, and that was a SS model with black dial. Is the listing incorrect, or is it a converted watch (which would be a shame!)? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Forty six & 2 are just ahead of me. Follow me on Instagram @ccrolex

28 July 2016, 10:12 AM	#13
Syed117 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Real Name: Syed Location: The Ether Posts: 3,388	Why do people do this? Yeah, maybe it's legit, but there are enough potential issues that you should stay away. People here are telling you to stay away, but you don't want to listen. You clearly don't know what you are dealing with so you are asking the forum. What's the point in asking if you aren't going to listen to these knowledgeable and experienced people? Who cares about PayPal protection? Why are people willing to even risk putting themselves through that frustration if something goes wrong. It's not worth it. If a little bit of money is make or break and you're trying to find a deal, you aren't ready. It's been said a thousand times, but we see these ridiculous threads over and over. If you are willing to use eBay, usee a seller from the forum instead. They will fix any issues you might run into. More than just about anyone you could find on eBay. __________________ Rolex Datejust 41 126334 \| Omega Speedmaster Professional Hesalite \| Cartier Santos Large \| Tudor Black Bay 58

28 July 2016, 10:52 AM	#15
GradyPhilpott 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New Mexico Watch: Seiko #SRK050 Posts: 34,460	Whoever bought that watch, if it was based on that listing, was exercising extremely poor judgement. I'd also like to know how that turns out, but I suspect it won't turn out well. __________________ JJ Inaugural TRF $50 Watch Challenge Winner

28 July 2016, 01:49 PM	#17
southtexas 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Great State of TX Posts: 5,763	I looked again at pics. I noticed the extra links are mixed (two tone and SS). It also appears the warranty paper isn't included in the accessories, meaning it could've been lost or the accessories were cobbled together. Let us know what he says. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Forty six & 2 are just ahead of me. Follow me on Instagram @ccrolex

28 July 2016, 07:45 AM	#2
DevinH "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Georgia Watch: Rolex Submariner Posts: 437	I wouldn't buy it from just those pics. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

28 July 2016, 07:49 AM	#4
DevinH "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Georgia Watch: Rolex Submariner Posts: 437	It says "sold" did you buy it? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

28 July 2016, 07:55 AM	#8
marcusjcw21 Banned Join Date: Jul 2016 Real Name: Marcus Location: Buffalo, NY Watch: Rolex 2 tone 1005 Posts: 351	I don't see anything wrong with it - especially if you use paypal. You can get your money back easy enough.. Take to an AD immediately and be sure to videotape the opening of the package, etc. That listing doesn't scare me. You don't have anything to lose if you document the opening of the package and taking it to get it authenticated.

28 July 2016, 09:46 AM	#11
GoingPlaces "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 5,356	If you have to ask... Just buy from a reputable seller here on the forums. Too many horror stories on Ebay. People get excited because the deal looks good and then began to second guess. Buying a nice watch should be pleasant experience, not one that leaves you worried or anxious.

28 July 2016, 02:37 PM	#20
Andad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,526	Well it has been sold but I'll PASS anyway. But a 168000TT blue Subdate should be in everyone's collection. __________________ E

28 July 2016, 11:05 PM	#21
wirelessdog "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Real Name: John Location: Maryland, USA Watch: Black face Sub Posts: 34	I'd like to point out that the WatchOut section is for threads like this. If you don't like them, find a different section to participate in. Good call on the mixed and cobbled parts. I messaged the seller with the question of the model being a stainless and the watch being a two toned yesterday. No response as of yet, which to me, is telling.

28 July 2016, 11:11 PM	#22
dysondiver "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: tom Location: northern ireland Watch: my fins Posts: 10,063	buy the seller ,,, id not be spending hard earned on that one though.

29 July 2016, 12:45 AM	#23
ming the merciless "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: England Posts: 459	Lots of really good advice regarding EBay purchases in this thread. Thanks to all who contributed.

29 July 2016, 01:25 AM	#24
RKTudor "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Real Name: Rick Location: Emmaus, PA Watch: Tudor 79090 blue Posts: 298	"Great Condition" definitely doesn't apply. Interested to hear what happens. I've personally had a number of great Ebay experiences, but you need to protect yourself, and most importantly, be patient!! Hope this works out well for you.

29 July 2016, 01:39 AM	#25
77T 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 42,016	Based on the title of this thread, the OP bought it and was asking for input prior to paying. IMHO that cart is before the horse. You are now committed - so IIRC, paying is expected per eBay policies. Not a rant - just sharing in the spirit of communication. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

29 July 2016, 03:40 AM	#30
Daytona88 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: USA Watch: 5712 Posts: 2,621	I would stay away. The seller posts it as New with Tags and as a 168000. Best case it is a total Frankenwatch.

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