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Brenngun · 13 August 2016, 11:10 AM

Why does this still exist? It only leads to controversy. Multiple cameras feeding a computer system with appropriate algorithm should solve the issues. Why does this not exist right now?

azguy · 13 August 2016, 11:01 PM

You can't buy/payoff a camera

GradyPhilpott · 14 August 2016, 03:32 AM

The sports that use judges have a subjective component beyond the purely mechanical performance that requires human analysis.

Sadly, corruption is an ever present specter, but the effect of a performance on the human spirit cannot be evaluated by a machine.

Brenngun · 14 August 2016, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by GradyPhilpott

The sports that use judges have a subjective component beyond the purely mechanical performance that requires human analysis.

Sadly, corruption is an ever present specter, but the effect of a performance on the human spirit cannot be evaluated by a machine.

But Grady the majority of what judges subjectively judge are in fact the correct completion of mechanical movements. To me that's where the problem begins. As good as some might be no way they see everything correctly. Let a system based eye take care of that. A computerized system to determine if all the mechanical movements were in fact completed correctly. Say 90% of the score. Then you can add 10% to the score for judging the touchy feely "effect of the performance on the human spirit". This could significantly reduce the continuous complaints that both athletes and fans have with the current system.

AzPaul · 14 August 2016, 06:57 AM

Personally, I like this topic

However, the East German judge gave it a 6.4

GradyPhilpott · 15 August 2016, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Brenngun

But Grady the majority of what judges subjectively judge are in fact the correct completion of mechanical movements. To me that's where the problem begins.

You make a good case.

I'd like to see how that would work out in practice.

The Joker · 15 August 2016, 06:49 AM

And let's put Ed209 in charge of our Law enforcement, we know how that turned out, haha.

bdex75 · 15 August 2016, 06:53 AM

I would think that some sports have done this research. The NFL with the pylon cameras or MLB with the strike zone. I am sure that most if not all sports could have metrics added to the rules that a computer program could measure and tabulate a score.

Interesting topic indeed.

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Mr. K · 15 August 2016, 07:03 AM

Maybe two scores averaged together. One computer for technical and one human for the "other" parts.

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