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Pmt2 · 10 September 2016, 03:05 PM

I just got a sea dweller 4000 and love it! My ad contacts me and tells me he just recently got a 116713 two tone Gmtc in and offered to trade for my sd 4000. The Gmtc is my favorite Rolex. Should I do it? He wants my sd with 1,000$ cash. Thank you in advance.

yunach · 10 September 2016, 03:11 PM

Simple question. I'll let you answer that one.

japenney · 10 September 2016, 03:20 PM

Something sounds fishy here. The GMT is priced $2000 above your sea-dweller and your trying to tell me your AD only wants $1000 more for the trade? I mean it is early in the morning here but that does not sound right.

Pmt2 · 10 September 2016, 03:28 PM

My sd 4000 is a 2015 model with box and papers. His Gmtc is a Z model.

japenney · 10 September 2016, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Pmt2

My sd 4000 is a 2015 model with box and papers. His Gmtc is a Z model.

The 116713 is the ceramic GMT. You used the wrong model number. The GMT you are referring to is the non ceramic 16713. I would not do that trade. It is not worth it for you. Stay clear.

kilyung · 10 September 2016, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by japenney

The 116713 is the ceramic GMT. You used the wrong model number. The GMT you are referring to is the non ceramic 16713. I would not do that trade. It is not worth it for you. Stay clear.

The 116713 was introduced in 2006 which coincides with the Z serial so the OP may be correct in his statement.

japenney · 10 September 2016, 05:16 PM

Good catch I thought they started the year after....if it is indeed ceramic then the trade is fine. Consider that the gmt is 10 years old tho and may be in need of service soon. Id factor that into the price

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kilyung · 10 September 2016, 05:16 PM

OP: a Z 116713 for a new 116600 would be a straight swap IMO. I've seen older 116713 sell in the $7500-$8000 range - about what your watch is probably worth.

Hairdude1 · 10 September 2016, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by kilyung

OP: a Z 116713 for a new 116600 would be a straight swap IMO. I've seen older 116713 sell in the $7500-$8000 range - about what your watch is probably worth.

Gerardus · 10 September 2016, 05:25 PM

I would keep the new 116600 because it wears more under the radar.
My GMTIIc TT gets the least wrist time.

shoppy · 10 September 2016, 06:15 PM

They are both stunning watches and two of my favourite models, however in this I would not trade a under 2 year old watch for a 10 year old and pay for the privilege. I would simply save and get a pre owned one on older one that comes up on the forum.

Cru Jones · 10 September 2016, 06:35 PM

What are the conditions of the two watches? I would have thought a straight swap unless your SDc is in rough shape or the GMT was very recently serviced by RSC.

travisb · 10 September 2016, 09:13 PM

You say the GMT-C is your favorite Rolex, so yes. Make the trade.

crowncollection · 10 September 2016, 09:17 PM

If it's mint go for it

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Pmt2 · 10 September 2016, 10:11 PM

Thank you all for your responses. The ad tells me that the Gmtc is from 2011 with a Z serial. They are both in mint condition.

WAK4 · 10 September 2016, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pmt2

Thank you all for your responses. The ad tells me that the Gmtc is from 2011 with a Z serial. They are both in mint condition.

2011 is when the warranty is dated? Keep in mind as Mike stated above, the Z serials were generally around 2006. Possible it sat in a case somewhere for 5 years before being sold, at which time the warranty would be stamped and dated. Something to consider.

Any idea on service history, etc?

THC · 10 September 2016, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Pmt2

Thank you all for your responses. The ad tells me that the Gmtc is from 2011 with a Z serial. They are both in mint condition.

2010 is a G serial, which is the last, prior to the randoms starting in 2011 ..Sounds like the AD is selling you hard... Offer a straight up swap, as previously mentioned

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=8478

fskywalker · 12 September 2016, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Pmt2

Thank you all for your responses. The ad tells me that the Gmtc is from 2011 with a Z serial. They are both in mint condition.

Being your favorite Rolex would go to see it at least. Your AD might have a client waiting for your SD? If so perhaps you can bargain a smaller premium in top of yours.

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WAK4 · 10 September 2016, 10:21 PM

If dealing with a private trade, straight swap probably the way to go. Dealing with an AD who is looking to make a profit, the $1k may not be horrendous. Are they offering any time of in house warranty on the GMT?

Is the TT GMT-C your favorite, or just a GMT-C in general? Anything else in the collection?

Would I do it? No...but my personal preference is the SD regardless of value.

brandrea · 10 September 2016, 10:59 PM

If both are in the same condition it's a straight up trade IMO

marcotagudelo · 10 September 2016, 11:07 PM

check for service history? or factor in if they would throw that in the mix for the deal.
i mean if he called you for it its because he knows your very interested so do what makes you happy

watchwatcher · 10 September 2016, 11:21 PM

Nope. Not a brand new watch for a Z serial plus 1k. I'd think about it for an even trade, but even then probably not.

My advice: enjoy the new watch and later on down the road, when you start to get that "itch," add a GMT.

2JHead · 10 September 2016, 11:26 PM

I'd do it, the gmt wears nicer, not so top heavy

JP(Canada) · 10 September 2016, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Pmt2

I just got a sea dweller 4000 and love it! My ad contacts me and tells me he just recently got a 116713 two tone Gmtc in and offered to trade for my sd 4000. The Gmtc is my favorite Rolex. Should I do it? He wants my sd with 1,000$ cash. Thank you in advance.

I think you already answered your question. It's your favorite Rolex. Price doesn't sound out of line, and it's from your AD, someone you're familiar with and can return to. It really just depends on how much you've bonded with the SD.

Watchgeek5000 · 11 September 2016, 12:18 AM

In the real world it is a straight up trade. For a dealer to make money, the $1000 sounds correct! AD's aren't going to stay in business very long if they make straight up even deals.

JP(Canada) · 11 September 2016, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Watchgeek5000

In the real world it is a straight up trade. For a dealer to make money, the $1000 sounds correct! AD's aren't going to stay in business very long if they make straight up even deals.

In my world a pre-owned TT GMT is still worth more than a pre-owned SD4k. And I agree with what you said about ADs needing to make money, but this seems like a fair deal.

Watchgeek5000 · 11 September 2016, 01:38 AM

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In my world a pre-owned TT GMT is still worth more than a pre-owned SD4k. And I agree with what you said about ADs needing to make money, but this seems like a fair deal.

SD4000 seem to be averaging around $7500 pre owned, TT GMTC are at around $8500. It actually seems like a good deal especially from an AD.

Danny83 · 11 September 2016, 12:23 AM

Go for it

Pmt2 · 11 September 2016, 02:28 AM

You guys are the BEST!!! Thanks

AK797 · 11 September 2016, 04:51 AM

1k is for the hassle free-ness of an AD. Your call. I'd probably rather spend the extra 1K hunting for an unworn or almost new 2016 model.

10 September 2016, 03:05 PM	#1
Pmt2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: USA Posts: 1,145	SD 4000 for a two tone Gmtc I just got a sea dweller 4000 and love it! My ad contacts me and tells me he just recently got a 116713 two tone Gmtc in and offered to trade for my sd 4000. The Gmtc is my favorite Rolex. Should I do it? He wants my sd with 1,000$ cash. Thank you in advance.

10 September 2016, 05:16 PM	#7
japenney "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Real Name: Josh Location: Canada Watch: undecided Posts: 4,777	Good catch I thought they started the year after....if it is indeed ceramic then the trade is fine. Consider that the gmt is 10 years old tho and may be in need of service soon. Id factor that into the price Sent by my pet Gekko __________________ Follow me on Instagram to see my watch journey @Japenney

10 September 2016, 05:25 PM	#10
Gerardus "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: Gerardus Location: often in the air Watch: ♕ Posts: 12,142	I would keep the new 116600 because it wears more under the radar. My GMTIIc TT gets the least wrist time. __________________ ♕126610 ♕126333 ♕116300

10 September 2016, 06:15 PM	#11
shoppy "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Simon Location: UK Watch: OP and daytona Posts: 1,783	They are both stunning watches and two of my favourite models, however in this I would not trade a under 2 year old watch for a 10 year old and pay for the privilege. I would simply save and get a pre owned one on older one that comes up on the forum. __________________ My family are my life and spirit and strength... Rolex daytona, YMs, OPs Z blue, subs, GMTs, Daydates, Omega Snoopy, chornomaster, apollo 8, ATs, POs, PP, JLC, VC, Swatch ,Casio, Timex.

10 September 2016, 09:17 PM	#14
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,216	If it's mint go for it Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ watches many

10 September 2016, 03:11 PM	#2
yunach "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: iphone Watch: RolexRolexRolex Posts: 297	Simple question. I'll let you answer that one.

10 September 2016, 03:20 PM	#3
japenney "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Real Name: Josh Location: Canada Watch: undecided Posts: 4,777	Something sounds fishy here. The GMT is priced $2000 above your sea-dweller and your trying to tell me your AD only wants $1000 more for the trade? I mean it is early in the morning here but that does not sound right.

10 September 2016, 03:28 PM	#4
Pmt2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: USA Posts: 1,145	My sd 4000 is a 2015 model with box and papers. His Gmtc is a Z model.

10 September 2016, 05:16 PM	#8
kilyung 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,940	OP: a Z 116713 for a new 116600 would be a straight swap IMO. I've seen older 116713 sell in the $7500-$8000 range - about what your watch is probably worth.

10 September 2016, 06:35 PM	#12
Cru Jones 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Paris, France Posts: 35,299	What are the conditions of the two watches? I would have thought a straight swap unless your SDc is in rough shape or the GMT was very recently serviced by RSC.

10 September 2016, 09:13 PM	#13
travisb 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Travis Location: FL / NYC Watch: Yes.. Posts: 33,486	You say the GMT-C is your favorite Rolex, so yes. Make the trade.

10 September 2016, 10:11 PM	#15
Pmt2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: USA Posts: 1,145	Thank you all for your responses. The ad tells me that the Gmtc is from 2011 with a Z serial. They are both in mint condition.

10 September 2016, 10:21 PM	#19
WAK4 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Bill Location: NJ Watch: Always changing Posts: 4,172	If dealing with a private trade, straight swap probably the way to go. Dealing with an AD who is looking to make a profit, the $1k may not be horrendous. Are they offering any time of in house warranty on the GMT? Is the TT GMT-C your favorite, or just a GMT-C in general? Anything else in the collection? Would I do it? No...but my personal preference is the SD regardless of value.

10 September 2016, 10:59 PM	#20
brandrea 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 78,076	If both are in the same condition it's a straight up trade IMO

10 September 2016, 11:07 PM	#21
marcotagudelo "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: in my house Posts: 357	check for service history? or factor in if they would throw that in the mix for the deal. i mean if he called you for it its because he knows your very interested so do what makes you happy

10 September 2016, 11:21 PM	#22
watchwatcher "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Larry Location: Kentucky Watch: Yes Posts: 35,044	Nope. Not a brand new watch for a Z serial plus 1k. I'd think about it for an even trade, but even then probably not. My advice: enjoy the new watch and later on down the road, when you start to get that "itch," add a GMT.

10 September 2016, 11:26 PM	#23
2JHead "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Western Europe Posts: 609	I'd do it, the gmt wears nicer, not so top heavy

11 September 2016, 12:18 AM	#25
Watchgeek5000 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Brooklyn USA Watch: Daytona Posts: 1,622	In the real world it is a straight up trade. For a dealer to make money, the $1000 sounds correct! AD's aren't going to stay in business very long if they make straight up even deals.

11 September 2016, 12:23 AM	#28
Danny83 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Real Name: Danny Location: Bay Area CA Watch: Yellow Gold Posts: 20,312	Go for it

11 September 2016, 02:28 AM	#29
Pmt2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: USA Posts: 1,145	You guys are the BEST!!! Thanks

11 September 2016, 04:51 AM	#30
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,369	1k is for the hassle free-ness of an AD. Your call. I'd probably rather spend the extra 1K hunting for an unworn or almost new 2016 model.

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