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Old 23 September 2016, 08:09 PM   #1
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Ridiculous question

Does it make any sort of a difference to the long term running of the movement on how you lay your watch down at night, On side, crown up or down, or flat on back.

Also, I have just bought my very first Rolex (2016 Explorer) and have been monitoring the accuracy over the 1st week. It seems to be running about 2.5 secs a day fast. I know this is absolutely phenomenal and an absolute wonder that they can make the movement so accurate but the new certification is -2 to +2 a day. Do I need to give it more time before I measure the accuracy. I'm not complaining by the way just curious.

Last thing, when does the constant looking at and smiling at your watch stop. I am starting to look a bit weird.

Thanks in advance.
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Old 23 September 2016, 08:17 PM   #2
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Credit to Old Ex-Pat Beast for this pic.

This is a card that was given out with older rolexes and actually will produce more or less the same scenarios as it lists.

You'll never stop admiring these incredible time pieces, they are the gift that keep on giving.

How did you measure your accuracy? Are you taking a read at the start and end of the day or using a machine?

2.5 seconds is certainly nothing I would be even remotely concerned with.

Congrats on the pick up, the 16 explorer is a stunner.
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Old 23 September 2016, 08:22 PM   #3
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Not ridiculous at all. The answer above is perfect so can't add anything other than 'welcome' to the forum. Don't be afraid to ask questions, you may get a tough time from some of the guys on here but that's all part of the fun!
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Old 23 September 2016, 08:26 PM   #4
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Does it make any sort of a difference to the long term running of the movement on how you lay your watch down at night, On side, crown up or down, or flat on back.

Also, I have just bought my very first Rolex (2016 Explorer) and have been monitoring the accuracy over the 1st week. It seems to be running about 2.5 secs a day fast. I know this is absolutely phenomenal and an absolute wonder that they can make the movement so accurate but the new certification is -2 to +2 a day. Do I need to give it more time before I measure the accuracy. I'm not complaining by the way just curious.

Last thing, when does the constant looking at and smiling at your watch stop. I am starting to look a bit weird.

Thanks in advance.
With the modern day 3 series movement different resting positions will not make much difference perhaps the odd second.But all the Rolex movements made over the past 40 odd years could if regulated correctly meet this new -2+2 spec.What this new spec means in the real world is first the bare uncased movement is tested at the COSC to a AVERAGE -4+6 seconds to get the COSC certification.The Rolex further regulates on a machine to a AVERAGE of -2+2 seconds what this means movement passed said spec at time of testing.But this do not mean that the movement will perform exactly the same every day on the wrist for life.Now even some Chinese made movements like the Seagull ST19 mechanical manual wind chronograph, with careful regulation can perform to a AVERAGE of -2+2 seconds cost of watch just $60.
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Old 23 September 2016, 08:26 PM   #5
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Welcome to the forum. Your new watch might settle in and become even more accurate too.
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Old 23 September 2016, 08:35 PM   #6
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Thanks for the quick responses. I thought I had a good general knowledge about Rolex watches but this forum is a minefield of useful (and often not so useful) information. My next issue is how I can spend time in the office without constantly clicking on the forum, or at the very least, not getting caught.
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Old 23 September 2016, 08:43 PM   #7
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Welcome to the forum. Your new watch might settle in and become even more accurate too.
How long does it take for a watch to settle in?

I ask because my new Explorer II, which seems to run well in the box, behaves strangely on my wrist and on some days has gained as much as 15 seconds. I want to take it into the RSC in London - but is it worth waiting a couple of weeks to see if it settles down.

The gain is quite significant on my watch and I don't think positioning it differently at night is going to make much difference - I usually wear it in bed. anyway! And to answer the original posters question, I have never found that positioning the watch at night makes much difference.
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Old 23 September 2016, 09:22 PM   #8
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If it’s running fast, and as certain components in the movement shouldn’t be affected by magnetism, then you may have a hairspring binding problem or possibly a touch of excess oil.
Normally the advice is to give it a good couple of weeks of daily wear, to let the various parts settle and bed in, but if you’ve been wearing it pretty much 24/7 since purchasing it, then it seems yours isn’t up to scratch.

As it’s less than 30 days old, UK Consumer Law permits you to return it for a full refund, exchange, or repair (obviously) – it’s up to you which you’d prefer, and don’t let the retailer fob you off with “it’ll need to be assessed by Rolex”.
A good dealer will wear it themselves for a day or two, and see if they can verify what you claim is true, and if you’ve been a regular customer of theirs, then they’ll probably accept your word and organise having it replaced.
Based on that, you can bring it in with the box and gubbins – as once they’ve replicated the problem, they need only inform you by phone and have you visit again when the replacement has arrived.
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Old 23 September 2016, 09:26 PM   #9
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It's not a permanent adjustment to the speed in my experience. In that you can't make a fast watch into a slow watch by continuous crown down storage.
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Old 23 September 2016, 09:51 PM   #10
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If it’s running fast, and as certain components in the movement shouldn’t be affected by magnetism, then you may have a hairspring binding problem or possibly a touch of excess oil.
Normally the advice is to give it a good couple of weeks of daily wear, to let the various parts settle and bed in, but if you’ve been wearing it pretty much 24/7 since purchasing it, then it seems yours isn’t up to scratch.

As it’s less than 30 days old, UK Consumer Law permits you to return it for a full refund, exchange, or repair (obviously) – it’s up to you which you’d prefer, and don’t let the retailer fob you off with “it’ll need to be assessed by Rolex”.
A good dealer will wear it themselves for a day or two, and see if they can verify what you claim is true, and if you’ve been a regular customer of theirs, then they’ll probably accept your word and organise having it replaced.
Based on that, you can bring it in with the box and gubbins – as once they’ve replicated the problem, they need only inform you by phone and have you visit again when the replacement has arrived.
Thank you. I think I'll take it in and see what they say. It's Watches of Switzerland on Bond Street (the Rolex Boutique). Usually they are pretty good.
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Old 23 September 2016, 10:23 PM   #11
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Last thing, when does the constant looking at and smiling at your watch stop. I am starting to look a bit weird.

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Old 24 September 2016, 12:25 AM   #12
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not a dumb question... i didn't know about the laying of the watch... thanks for sharing
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Old 24 September 2016, 01:23 AM   #13
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You absolutely can self-regulate using the methods above...but I would let it settle in before even trying that.

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Old 24 September 2016, 01:30 AM   #14
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Not a ridiculous question at all and it seems you've gotten your answer, but position does affect accuracy.
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Old 24 September 2016, 01:40 AM   #15
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Not a ridiculous question at all and it seems you've gotten your answer, but position does affect accuracy.
And many others not only position remember this the escapement of a mechanical watch in 24 hours pushes the gears 432,000 times. Since a day has 86,400 seconds so for any purely mechanical movement to keep time within a few seconds day, is very high precision. Given the fact that the movement is constantly affected by the earth's gravity pull, metal expansion and contraction, temperature variations, subtle changes in lubrication and friction,mainspring power reserve, shocks,and so on.The fact is that no mechanical watch made will keep perfect time, very close yes but perfect no.
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Welcome to the forum. There is something to be learned here everyday, so don't be shy to ask.
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