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Old 19 October 2016, 09:12 AM   #1
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Brand new Rolex Deepsea D-Blue with faulty date change after midnight

Hello Rolex Forum, I recently purchased a brand new Rolex Deepsea D-Blue 116660 from a local Tourneau store and after about two weeks I noticed that the date window took over five minutes before the date changed. I was extremely surprised that this was happening considering that this was a $12k brand new watch. I returned it to Tourneau and there was a senior VP of the company there who examined the Rolex and said he's never seen this in his 25 years with the company. He offered to exchange the watch with a brand new one that would be directly ordered from Rolex and today I received the new Rolex and theres no problem with the date change. I was wondering if anyones ever had this problem with this model or any other new Rolex.
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Old 19 October 2016, 10:38 AM   #2
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My ex DS was changing date 4mn after midnight Rolex (France) did not say anything was wrong...
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Old 19 October 2016, 10:42 AM   #3
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My 5-yr old Sub changes one minute after midnight, meh not a problem.

However, there is a previous thread stating that the new DD40 with new movement had an issue with the day/date change.
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Old 19 October 2016, 10:43 AM   #4
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Wait...am I understanding that you returned a new D-Blue because it didn't change the date exactly at midnight? Like 5 minutes past?
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Old 19 October 2016, 10:44 AM   #5
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Normal.

Don't get a DD40.
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Old 19 October 2016, 10:51 AM   #6
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My BLNR flips at about 2.5 minutes after midnight. It happens consistently at this time so I'm not too concerned. If it flipped at 2.5 minutes slow some days and 10 minutes fast others, I may be concerned. The hands were probably set a degree or two off but its no big deal.
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Old 19 October 2016, 10:55 AM   #7
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Brand new Rolex Deepsea D-Blue with faulty date change after midnight

I'm sorry, but I don't see why this matters.

I've never even checked when my date models change. I can't think of why I would think to check that.
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Old 19 October 2016, 11:00 AM   #8
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Wait...am I understanding that you returned a new D-Blue because it didn't change the date exactly at midnight? Like 5 minutes past?
You understand correctly.

I'm not sure I would worry about it myself.
It's not like Rolex have ever made any performance guarantees in this regard, and in terms of functionality it's virtually a non-issue.

All is well regardless as there's a replacement watch.

If I recall correctly all my Rolex watches until recently have changed date within 10 or 15 seconds after midnight even after a service.
Now I have a D-Blue and a Black DSSD(just serviced) I think they change somewhere between 12/5 and 23/4 minutes after midnight with the D-Blue being the worst example I've ever had.
The black was originally changing at about 35 seconds past midnight when new.

After a service they will both be different again.
No problem though in the grand scheme of things.
I would rather take the new accuracy standard over an absolutely precise date change over
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Old 19 October 2016, 11:02 AM   #9
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I'm sorry, but I don't see why this matters.

I've never even checked when my date models change. I can't think of why I would think to check that.
I've never checked mine either, nor will I. I guess if it stops working altogether I may investigate.
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Old 19 October 2016, 11:55 AM   #10
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I'm sorry, but I don't see why this matters.

I've never even checked when my date models change. I can't think of why I would think to check that.
Interesting. Other than manually advancing the hour hand past midnight I've never witnessed my DSSD operationally change in real time either! Old man that I am I'm not up at that hour. :). But I'd like to see for myself at some point.
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Old 19 October 2016, 12:01 PM   #11
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Wait...am I understanding that you returned a new D-Blue because it didn't change the date exactly at midnight? Like 5 minutes past?
yea I thought this was normal.
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Old 19 October 2016, 12:32 PM   #12
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My D-Blue changes date at 2.5 min after midnight consistently.
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Old 19 October 2016, 01:24 PM   #13
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I'm not sure it would bother me, especially if it were consistent.

Mine happens to change at 12, bang on.
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Old 19 October 2016, 01:52 PM   #14
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Thanks everyone I didn't realize that the date change wasn't a big deal, I thought that Rolex's were precision pieces of work and this wouldn't be a problem, anyway the new DSSD hits the change directly on midnight.
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Old 19 October 2016, 01:55 PM   #15
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I wouldn't worry about that
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Old 19 October 2016, 05:19 PM   #16
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yea I thought this was normal.
x2....that is approx when my Expl II and DJ II change
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Old 19 October 2016, 05:28 PM   #17
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It's normal, probably fixable during next service by repositioning the hands.
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Old 19 October 2016, 05:47 PM   #18
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Hello Rolex Forum, I recently purchased a brand new Rolex Deepsea D-Blue 116660 from a local Tourneau store and after about two weeks I noticed that the date window took over five minutes before the date changed. I was extremely surprised that this was happening considering that this was a $12k brand new watch. I returned it to Tourneau and there was a senior VP of the company there who examined the Rolex and said he's never seen this in his 25 years with the company. He offered to exchange the watch with a brand new one that would be directly ordered from Rolex and today I received the new Rolex and theres no problem with the date change. I was wondering if anyones ever had this problem with this model or any other new Rolex.
First you got to understand the working of a mechanical watch remember its mechanical and not electronic like a instant flick of a electric light switch. So dont worry when the date changes it can be a few minutes either way,its a purely a mechanical process. Rolex uses a cam system, and sometimes they can get a bit dry or have to much oil on the cam when new, so it could take and extra minutes or so for the jewel to slide off the cam, it does not indicate a problem with the watch.But as long as it changes by next morning why worry about it and get some sleep that will do you more good.
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Old 19 October 2016, 06:01 PM   #19
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Interesting. Other than manually advancing the hour hand past midnight I've never witnessed my DSSD operationally change in real time either! Old man that I am I'm not up at that hour. :). But I'd like to see for myself at some point.
How about New Years Eve?
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Mine changes exactly at midnight , at least I think so, I'm never up to see it

@ Mon , I'm only watching the seconds hand on New Year's Eve
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Old 19 October 2016, 07:28 PM   #21
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Thanks everyone I didn't realize that the date change wasn't a big deal, I thought that Rolex's were precision pieces of work and this wouldn't be a problem, anyway the new DSSD hits the change directly on midnight.
A Rolex watch is indeed a "precise" piece of work.

As long as the timekeeping is constant then it will be deemed to be "precise".
I suppose if one considers the date change a part of the precision equation, then it would require the change over point to be consistent.

As another respondent has stated.
Don't go and get yourself a new DD40

It would be an interesting exercise to ask Rolex what their acceptance level is regarding the changeover point for the date.
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Old 19 October 2016, 07:35 PM   #22
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I couldn't tell you what time any of my watches change dates as I am sleeping. I do know one thing when I wake up in am they are showing correct date. So for me I could care less!
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My D Blue changes at about 3 mins past, don't see it as a problem?
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Freaked me out when I noticed that my GMT master didn't change exactly at midnight.

It is just how Rolex works.
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Old 20 October 2016, 01:39 AM   #26
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So...not that I pay ANY attention to mine...this is definitely not an issue with the watch...

...the watch doesn't know what time it is when the mechanism changes the date. The movement only 'knows' that when the hour wheel makes 24 revolutions, the spring mechanism that pushes the date wheel to the next cog develops enough tension to force that date wheel to the next position.

If there's any 'sloppiness' in the hand positioning when setting the watch initially it can effect the amount of tension the spring has --- creating some fluctuation in when exactly the date would change.

Again-- it's mechanical. No problem at all.

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Hello Rolex Forum, I recently purchased a brand new Rolex Deepsea D-Blue 116660 from a local Tourneau store and after about two weeks I noticed that the date window took over five minutes before the date changed. I was extremely surprised that this was happening considering that this was a $12k brand new watch. I returned it to Tourneau and there was a senior VP of the company there who examined the Rolex and said he's never seen this in his 25 years with the company. He offered to exchange the watch with a brand new one that would be directly ordered from Rolex and today I received the new Rolex and theres no problem with the date change. I was wondering if anyones ever had this problem with this model or any other new Rolex.
mine change at noon.
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Interesting. Other than manually advancing the hour hand past midnight I've never witnessed my DSSD operationally change in real time either! Old man that I am I'm not up at that hour. :). But I'd like to see for myself at some point.
let's set an alarm for tonight at 5 minutes to midnight...
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How about New Years Eve?
Good point Mon! However, staying up on that night is few and far between these days.. In fact, sad to say, last year we were at a friends and we all cut out before midnight! :) I hang with a really rowdy bunch... :) Where has my energy gone!
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Well since a watch really only has one responsibility, I could see why you would want your $12k example to take that responsibility seriously. If the shop is willing to swap it out for you and you want a tighter tolerance, go for it!

My inclination is not care about that sort of thing, but then there is the part of me that thinks "well then what the hell are we doing here?" when it comes to the acceptable performance of a Rolex.
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