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Old 26 October 2016, 03:27 PM   #1
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Here's an Interesting Sub

I really can't decide one way or the other, but it doesn't look right and the story about the serial number on the caseback sounds fishy at best.

I stumbled on the rest of the pictures and I guess it could be the real deal.

Except for the extra serial number, I think it looks okay.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rolex-Submar...3D322296527238
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Old 26 October 2016, 04:10 PM   #2
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I think if he was trying to be suspect, he would just replace the caseback.
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Old 26 October 2016, 04:24 PM   #3
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Are you thinking its a replica Grady?
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Old 26 October 2016, 08:16 PM   #4
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Watch looks OK from here, but the story regarding the "extra" SN on the case back because it's from the El Salvador AD sounds like total BS.
I also find it a bit strange that the watch case and bracelet are in excellent condition, but the movement shows significant brassing.
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Old 26 October 2016, 08:57 PM   #5
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Google doesn't give any information I can find about the serial number engraving issue. Then again that serial number from between the lugs doesn't provide any hits either, suggesting it's not one seen on fakes before.

Case/bracelet vs movement condition could well be due to a recent polish as it says it's been serviced.
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Old 26 October 2016, 09:22 PM   #6
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Only issue I can see is that the rotor is rubbing on the top plate.
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Old 26 October 2016, 11:20 PM   #7
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I really can't decide one way or the other, but it doesn't look right and the story about the serial number on the caseback sounds fishy at best.

I stumbled on the rest of the pictures and I guess it could be the real deal.

Except for the extra serial number, I think it looks okay.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rolex-Submar...3D322296527238
People selling replica's don't show the movement for good reason.
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Old 27 October 2016, 12:45 AM   #8
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People selling replica's don't show the movement for good reason.
Try scrolling down
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Old 27 October 2016, 01:31 AM   #9
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too many questions for the risk.
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Old 27 October 2016, 01:51 AM   #10
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bracelet is marked 93250 on the end links but clasp is stamped 93150. wtf?
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Old 27 October 2016, 02:20 AM   #11
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too many questions for the risk.
Agreed
Does anyone know if that model used both a red(wine) and a gold reversing wheels?
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Old 27 October 2016, 06:17 AM   #12
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bracelet is marked 93250 on the end links but clasp is stamped 93150. wtf?


Great catch, Etschell!

That is indeed a "red flag". I assume it is an aftermarket bracelet with an original clasp.
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Old 28 October 2016, 01:03 AM   #13
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Watch looks OK from here, but the story regarding the "extra" SN on the case back because it's from the El Salvador AD sounds like total BS.
I also find it a bit strange that the watch case and bracelet are in excellent condition, but the movement shows significant brassing.
I couldn't make up my mind on the few photos at the top of the listing. Then I saw the multitude at the bottom and it looked okay, but I still never heard of adding a serial number to the case back.

The movement looked authentic, but as freefly says, it didn't seem to match the rest of the watch.

Anyway, thanks for everyone's input.
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Old 28 October 2016, 08:29 AM   #14
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There's a few things that I find off-putting about this watch but.. apologies if I sound rude...

This is just a Submariner. Nothing special at all. It's a used 16610 in what looks like nice shape, but everyone seems to have one, myself included.

I mean, it's a dirt common watch and there's plenty of trustworthy sellers who have them for sale, AND the market on these is relatively "tight" so, why even take a chance?
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Old 29 October 2016, 05:00 PM   #15
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There's a few things that I find off-putting about this watch but.. apologies if I sound rude...

This is just a Submariner. Nothing special at all. It's a used 16610 in what looks like nice shape, but everyone seems to have one, myself included.

I mean, it's a dirt common watch and there's plenty of trustworthy sellers who have them for sale, AND the market on these is relatively "tight" so, why even take a chance?
We are talking about a Rolex here, not a G-Shock.
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Old 29 October 2016, 05:23 PM   #16
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We are talking about a Rolex here, not a G-Shock.
Meaning what?
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Old 30 October 2016, 05:59 AM   #17
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We are talking about a Rolex here, not a G-Shock.
LOL Fair enough, not a G Shock but it's a very common watch for a Rolex.

There's over 800 16610s on chrono24 right now, for example. Gray and Sons has 31, Bobs has 14, etc. I only used Bobs and Gray and sons as I have bought from both in the past.

Now, if this is something scarce like a 1530? Then I could see expanding your search. But if I can go online, right now, and buy hundreds of these things, they're not, IMO, rare.
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