Going to acquire my first AP a 15400 or 15710

[Bouddha]

Hello all,

I am new to this forum but also hopefully soon to AP!
I am about to buy my first piece and was hesitating between the 15400 or a 15710.

I have a little preference for a 15400 as of now, but was wondering which one is the most versatile?

Also, what are the typical discount I can hope for these watches?

rgds

[MrGMT]

Originally Posted by Bouddha

Hello all,

I am new to this forum but also hopefully soon to AP!
I am about to buy my first piece and was hesitating between the 15400 or a 15710.

I have a little preference for a 15400 as of now, but was wondering which one is the most versatile?

Also, what are the typical discount I can hope for these watches?

rgds

I was looking at he same two models myself slightly favouring the 15400 but when I tried both on the 15710 diver blew me away and was surprised how much I liked it. So best to try both on and what one you like best.

[kaiserphoenix]

Same. For some reason the 15400 felt BIGGER. I know its a strange thing to say but the 15710 whilst is a heavy watch, is very balanced and sits really snug, I love mine. Just feel the Royal oak is the classic at 39mm. But thats just me.

[masyv6]

Both are very good. I think the 15400 is more versatile than the 15710, however.

Just buy both

[Bouddha]

Thank you all for your responses. I also start to believe the 15400 is more versatile...
Especially as I already own a Panerai & a Chopard Mille Miglia and none of them have a stainlessS bracelet.

Any idea window what % discount should I receive for a 15400?

[anothernewphone]

The 15400 is definitely more versatile, but you definitely need to try both on. The 15400 is thinner, but wears large still. The Diver is chunkier, but I feel like it wears its size a little better on my smaller wrist.

[MrGMT]

Originally Posted by Bouddha

Thank you all for your responses. I also start to believe the 15400 is more versatile...
Especially as I already own a Panerai & a Chopard Mille Miglia and none of them have a stainlessS bracelet.

Any idea window what % discount should I receive for a 15400?

20% minimum

[SC11]

Originally Posted by MrGMT

20% minimum

20% from where?

[MrGMT]

Originally Posted by SC11

20% from where?

Your in the uk I see at least 3 dealers on chrono24 dong 20-22% off the 15400 and also the 15710 and that was just a quick search

[jem7v]

Originally Posted by SC11

20% from where?

Anywhere except a boutique.

[SC11]

Originally Posted by MrGMT

Your in the uk I see at least 3 dealers on chrono24 dong 20-22% off the 15400 and also the 15710 and that was just a quick search

Ok you wasn't clear on where from, chrono24 etc then yes but I wouldn't say it 20% min more like 20 or so at max! The majority are 10-15%

[SC11]

Originally Posted by jem7v

Anywhere except a boutique.

Not at a UK AD but I'd love to be proved wrong!

Greys have a few around 20% but the majority are 10-15% for BNIB

[kaiserphoenix]

Originally Posted by anothernewphone

The 15400 is definitely more versatile, but you definitely need to try both on. The 15400 is thinner, but wears large still. The Diver is chunkier, but I feel like it wears its size a little better on my smaller wrist.

Strange right? I had the same experience. My wrist is thin and the 15400 looked big but the diver seems to fit so comfy even tho its so chunky and heavy.

[Peterandwatches]

I think the 15400 is a bit more versatile, as it strikes a good balance between sporty and dressy.

[MrGMT]

Originally Posted by SC11

Ok you wasn't clear on where from, chrono24 etc then yes but I wouldn't say it 20% min more like 20 or so at max! The majority are 10-15%

Well I would say 20% minimum because if there advertising for 20% off and you walk in with cash the minimum your getting is 20% off

[Bouddha]

Thanks all for your responses.
I am still struggling to decide.... :-)
Also, I am now wondering why is the 15710 a little more expensive than a 15400 while on a rubber strap ?
It has the same calibre so, I dont believe the casing of the 15710 is more expensive or is it?

rgds

[jem7v]

Originally Posted by Bouddha

Thanks all for your responses.
I am still struggling to decide.... :-)
Also, I am now wondering why is the 15710 a little more expensive than a 15400 while on a rubber strap ?
It has the same calibre so, I dont believe the casing of the 15710 is more expensive or is it?

rgds

It's more expensive because it's a ROO and AP chose to make it more expensive. Don't think too hard on it. I would do the 15400 easily over a basic diver. I really think the diver is a boring looking watch except the FC and CE versions. CE being the better one :).

Definitely go with the 15400 over a steel diver.

[gummy]

As a first AP I lean Diver...

[SMD]

The answer is always both.

[psv]

I prefer the 15300 size/fit of the Royal Oak over the 15400 so I would go with the 15710.

[Tomas Eriksson]

I would go 15400, the bracelet is magic. No one except AP does anything like it. I have both a 15400 and a ce diver... Regards to 15300 comments, I prefer 15400, no 15300 has the double stick 12-index. And yes... I have worn a few 15300 and I do understand the critical some has regards to bezel proportions... The 15400 is nicer than 15300.

[AK797]

My first was a Diver and I loved it but now I'd probably go with the bracelet and if the blue dial then no question.

[Bouddha]

Originally Posted by Tomas Eriksson

I would go 15400, the bracelet is magic. No one except AP does anything like it. I have both a 15400 and a ce diver... Regards to 15300 comments, I prefer 15400, no 15300 has the double stick 12-index. And yes... I have worn a few 15300 and I do understand the critical some has regards to bezel proportions... The 15400 is nicer than 15300.

Owning a Panerai PAM312 and a Chopard Mille Miglia, I currently tend to favor the 15400 as the 2 others are thicker and less of a dress watch.
Not having these 2 maybe the 15710 would have been a good choice.

I am actually more thinking of the 15400 with the black dial... why would some prefer the blue dial ? Does it play as well with light than the black dial?

Rgds

[Bouddha]

Originally Posted by MrGMT

Well I would say 20% minimum because if there advertising for 20% off and you walk in with cash the minimum your getting is 20% off

So 20% at an AD is correct or should I easily find one that could push it to 25% or more?

At these prices, 5% difference makes a difference.

Rgds

[jem7v]

Originally Posted by Bouddha

Owning a Panerai PAM312 and a Chopard Mille Miglia, I currently tend to favor the 15400 as the 2 others are thicker and less of a dress watch.
Not having these 2 maybe the 15710 would have been a good choice.

I am actually more thinking of the 15400 with the black dial... why would some prefer the blue dial ? Does it play as well with light than the black dial?

Rgds

People are just obsessed with blue because that is the original color of the RO.

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by jem7v

People are just obsessed with blue because that is the original color of the RO.

In all fairness the blue definitely has more range than the black, and I've owned the black.

[MrGMT]

Originally Posted by Bouddha

So 20% at an AD is correct or should I easily find one that could push it to 25% or more?

At these prices, 5% difference makes a difference.

Rgds

No the 20% is from grey dealers but there is no difference your still getting the same watch and warranty so buy from chrono24 and yes push for 25% off now. A lot are advertising still at 20% off or slightly more so if you go to there shop with the cash I would be surprised if they didn't go to 25% off.

[taxidriver]

My choice ✌️


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[brettpaul]

....any color is good as long as it's BLUE! 💙

[Bouddha]

Originally Posted by MrGMT

No the 20% is from grey dealers but there is no difference your still getting the same watch and warranty so buy from chrono24 and yes push for 25% off now. A lot are advertising still at 20% off or slightly more so if you go to there shop with the cash I would be surprised if they didn't go to 25% off.

Well, I tried today to negotiate into a AD shop for an 15400 but I was no way close to even a 20%..... So my negotiating skills seem at best rusty.... .... so walked out of the shop with nothing other than the cash I was ready to spend. :-)



rgds