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Eva123 · 8 February 2017, 03:34 PM

I was wondering why in this forum Vacheron Constantin is left forgotten? There is AP, PP, Omega, Panerai subforums but somehow VC is omitted. VC is a part of holy trinity and I am surprised that less attention is paid to this exceptional brand.

capote · 8 February 2017, 04:21 PM

I agree, its a great brand, but a dedicated sub-forum would be too quiet. Same with JLC and probably ALS as well. Before Patek and Audemars got their own sub-forums most of the threads in "watches (non-Rolex)" were about these two brands, that is not the case with VC.

rolehex · 8 February 2017, 04:44 PM

I'm with ya' brother!

RXAPPP · 8 February 2017, 07:40 PM

agreed!

regnant · 8 February 2017, 07:43 PM

I already posted on this, there's no many Vacheron Constantin Owners as other brands that has subforums but I still insist on that a watch brand that has a deep and rich history behind and one of trios of haute horology deserves a separate forum

texex91 · 8 February 2017, 11:13 PM

I appreciate VC, but since Richemont purchased them, it's not a brand that I follow much anymore. IMHO they killed off VC...history or not.

benlee · 8 February 2017, 11:51 PM

The "trinity" tag is a historical accolade and is not some commonly established standard in horology. Based on recent watch offerings, I will probably rank Lange above VC. All these is subjective of course.

5Zigen · 9 February 2017, 03:04 AM

I recently visited an VC AD as I wanted to look at their re-vamped Overseas collection, more specifically the World time. Not sure what it is but IMO the feel, finish just doesn't feel the same as PP's 5230, 5930 or the Lange 1 Time Zone...or maybe its just me.

masyv6 · 9 February 2017, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by benlee

The "trinity" tag is a historical accolade and is not some commonly established standard in horology. Based on recent watch offerings, I will probably rank Lange above VC. All these is subjective of course.

Certainly a ranking myself and many others share

GB-man · 9 February 2017, 05:32 AM

Very simple. Not many here own them or talk about them.

Constantine · 9 February 2017, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by texex91

I appreciate VC, but since Richemont purchased them, it's not a brand that I follow much anymore. IMHO they killed off VC...history or not.

How has VC changed since it was acquired by Richemont? I haven't been into watches that long (I believe they were bought in 96), so I don't know what they were like before.

For me it is a brand that I have a lot of sympathy for, partly because of their name and for other reasons. They definitely have the skills, but their designs leave me cold. I have this feeling that if they change 1-2 people they could become a top brand again.

Peterandwatches · 9 February 2017, 10:11 AM

I would love to see a subforum for VC and JLC in theory. Both have a rich history and deserve more discussion. Alas, if it's true nobody would talk about them, then there's no point.

texex91 · 9 February 2017, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Constantine

How has VC changed since it was acquired by Richemont? I haven't been into watches that long (I believe they were bought in 96), so I don't know what they were like before.

I have this feeling that if they change 1-2 people they could become a top brand again.

For me it's simple, I prefer private brands. Just my .02 and where I prefer to spend my .02.

VC will never become a top brand again as long as under Richemont.

Another .02 free of charge.

subtona · 9 February 2017, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by benlee

The "trinity" tag is a historical accolade and is not some commonly established standard in horology. Based on recent watch offerings, I will probably rank Lange above VC. All these is subjective of course.

Agree well said.

cervantes · 9 February 2017, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by subtona

Agree well said.

Yes, Lange seems to be more popular amongst the aficionados these days. Though VC's recent offerings have been strong. I owned two VC's in the past and I wouldn't buy another one.

mickyd329 · 9 February 2017, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by benlee

The "trinity" tag is a historical accolade and is not some commonly established standard in horology. Based on recent watch offerings, I will probably rank Lange above VC. All these is subjective of course.

Spot on!

Andad · 9 February 2017, 05:22 PM

18 posts and no pix?

Sam Philip · 10 February 2017, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by directioneng

18 posts and no pix?

That explains why we don't have a VC subforum, not may of us own VC

improviz · 10 February 2017, 08:22 AM

If Richemont ownership prevents a brand from being great, then Lange and Jaeger-LeCoultre are in trouble, as both are owned by Richemont.

Robbyman · 10 February 2017, 08:29 AM

Agree 100%

kunlun · 10 February 2017, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by improviz

If Richemont ownership prevents a brand from being great, then Lange and Jaeger-LeCoultre are in trouble, as both are owned by Richemont.

That's a good point, but I see the attraction of independent watchmakers.

In terms of whether VC is still a great watchmaker, people should just look up their new Harmony monopusher chronograph. That's a sweet movement which shows some serious watchmaking chops.

For me, I would take the Cornes de Vaches over a PP dress chrono. The VC is just perfect somehow. I know, totally subjective, but that's my coin thrown into the well for you.

cervantes · 10 February 2017, 02:01 PM

I like the Cornes de Vache, the harmony line - not so much.

regnant · 10 February 2017, 08:05 PM

This is mine

capote · 10 February 2017, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by regnant

This is mine

Wonderfully sculptured case

toucan · 11 February 2017, 03:59 PM

VC still makes really nice watches. I have a couple and like them as much as my PP's. If you go to a boutique and look around I'm sure you'll find something you like.

sulttaani · 11 February 2017, 05:04 PM

Haven't seen any of these around but loving mine.

regnant · 11 February 2017, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by capote

Wonderfully sculptured case

Yes, it's indeed and in terms of case flanks and lugs this shape is my favorite model. I don't know why the most complicated watches made by the same brand come with ordinary lugs, case flanks

Constantine · 11 February 2017, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by improviz

If Richemont ownership prevents a brand from being great, then Lange and Jaeger-LeCoultre are in trouble, as both are owned by Richemont.

Exactly. I have much more respect for Lange (or even VC for that matter) than Patek with their poor QA and embarrassing service times. Who owns the shares of the company matters very little to me.

lapince · 13 February 2017, 07:00 PM

TRF is a more sport oriented forum, and VC is not great at that, they are nice, but TBH I clearly prefer AP, PP and many others before VC

8 February 2017, 03:34 PM	#1
Eva123 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Scotland Watch: 116333 Posts: 415	VC subforum I was wondering why in this forum Vacheron Constantin is left forgotten? There is AP, PP, Omega, Panerai subforums but somehow VC is omitted. VC is a part of holy trinity and I am surprised that less attention is paid to this exceptional brand.

8 February 2017, 07:43 PM	#5
regnant "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Close to Rolex AD Posts: 3,474	I already posted on this, there's no many Vacheron Constantin Owners as other brands that has subforums but I still insist on that a watch brand that has a deep and rich history behind and one of trios of haute horology deserves a separate forum __________________

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benlee "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Real Name: Ben Location: SIN & JKT Watch: Rolex, AP, PP Posts: 9,874	The "trinity" tag is a historical accolade and is not some commonly established standard in horology. Based on recent watch offerings, I will probably rank Lange above VC. All these is subjective of course. __________________ Follow me on Instagram : benlee789

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8 February 2017, 04:21 PM	#2
capote "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: Daniel Location: Sweden Watch: 16570 Posts: 7,315	I agree, its a great brand, but a dedicated sub-forum would be too quiet. Same with JLC and probably ALS as well. Before Patek and Audemars got their own sub-forums most of the threads in "watches (non-Rolex)" were about these two brands, that is not the case with VC.

8 February 2017, 04:44 PM	#3
rolehex 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Thousand Oaks, CA Posts: 1,445	I'm with ya' brother!

8 February 2017, 07:40 PM	#4
RXAPPP "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Blue Planet Watch: 5 Posts: 1,201	agreed!

8 February 2017, 11:13 PM	#6
texex91 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: . Posts: 17,898	I appreciate VC, but since Richemont purchased them, it's not a brand that I follow much anymore. IMHO they killed off VC...history or not.

9 February 2017, 03:04 AM	#8
5Zigen 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Canada Watch: PP, AP, Rolex Posts: 750	I recently visited an VC AD as I wanted to look at their re-vamped Overseas collection, more specifically the World time. Not sure what it is but IMO the feel, finish just doesn't feel the same as PP's 5230, 5930 or the Lange 1 Time Zone...or maybe its just me.

9 February 2017, 05:32 AM	#10
GB-man 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 37,355	Very simple. Not many here own them or talk about them.

9 February 2017, 10:11 AM	#12
Peterandwatches "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: WA Watch: 5167/15400/Sub/JLC Posts: 1,023	I would love to see a subforum for VC and JLC in theory. Both have a rich history and deserve more discussion. Alas, if it's true nobody would talk about them, then there's no point.

10 February 2017, 08:29 AM	#20
Robbyman "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Blighty (England) Watch: Daytona/Pepsi/Sub Posts: 1,517	Agree 100%

10 February 2017, 02:01 PM	#22
cervantes "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Real Name: Jay Location: East and West Posts: 1,894	I like the Cornes de Vache, the harmony line - not so much.

10 February 2017, 08:05 PM	#23
regnant "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Close to Rolex AD Posts: 3,474	This is mine Attached Images __________________

11 February 2017, 03:59 PM	#25
toucan "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: NYC Watch: 5970 Posts: 1,980	VC still makes really nice watches. I have a couple and like them as much as my PP's. If you go to a boutique and look around I'm sure you'll find something you like. Attached Images

11 February 2017, 05:04 PM	#26
sulttaani "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: EU Posts: 92	Haven't seen any of these around but loving mine.

13 February 2017, 07:00 PM	#29
lapince "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Mars Watch: 5712 Posts: 11,509	TRF is a more sport oriented forum, and VC is not great at that, they are nice, but TBH I clearly prefer AP, PP and many others before VC

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