Is this Tudor Sub 7928 ok?

[Gabe218]

I've had my eye on this for a while but don't want to pull the trigger without a few expert opinions. Other than the fact that the bracelet has a fair amount of stretch and the obvious bezel situation, is there anything here that's alarming regarding it's condition? The seller says the watch runs fine, but is there anything else I should consider before buying?
Thanks in advance.



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[bdex75]

Not a huge fan of the dial condition and the fact that the hands are not even close to a match.


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[ncstate1201]

Aren't those hands from a 76100 not a 7928?

[harry in montreal]

Is this a big money watch? I think it's real, but the hands are later 76100s. The insert also is later, but genuine. The band is an enigma. The lower tube is all rusty... I like watches with age and some corrosion (11 o'clock Rehaut) as they seem genuine to me. The tube is very unusual. I would remove that band and not wear it like that even once. If it's a real 7206, it's worth repairing. I can't tell if it's legit

[harry in montreal]

I take that back. The insert may be a long 5. I just never have seen one fade to blue like that

[Gabe218]

Originally Posted by harry in montreal

I take that back. The insert may be a long 5. I just never have seen one fade to blue like that

Hi thanks for your words of wisdom. The photos aren't very clear but the bezel is actually black.


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[ncstate1201]

Can't tell if the lume in the 76100 hands is original all of the ones I have had turned to more of a creamy patina or more yellow, but the hand lume is more of a mint green. If the lume is original on the hands I would stabilize the lume and sell separately and try to source the correct hands. It is hard to find 76100 hands without cracks in the lume. Then again probably no one will have the dial to match. Also, the price on this 7928 would have to be very low for me to consider it. I think of it as a project watch.

[jdog111578]

As far as I know, those hands do not belong there. They only came on rare triangle dial 94010 and the later 76100's. Given the age, they're likely off a 94010.

[offrdmania]

Where is the mercedes in the hour hand?

[Gabe218]

Originally Posted by ncstate1201

Can't tell if the lume in the 76100 hands is original all of the ones I have had turned to more of a creamy patina or more yellow, but the hand lume is more of a mint green. If the lume is original on the hands I would stabilize the lume and sell separately and try to source the correct hands. It is hard to find 76100 hands without cracks in the lume. Then again probably no one will have the dial to match. Also, the price on this 7928 would have to be very low for me to consider it. I think of it as a project watch.

Thanks for the info. Greatly appreciated. For the record, I have the opportunity to acquire it the Sub for £2000


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[Gabe218]

Originally Posted by Gabe218

Thanks for the info. Greatly appreciated. For the record, I have the opportunity to acquire it the Sub for £2000


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Also not sure why they are slightly green but here are some other greenish Tudor Sub hands I found:


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[ncstate1201]

Yeah but that green is more acceptable in Tudor lume...I have not seen this lume color on a Tudor, it looks real mint green to me...it kind of reminds of the lume the MOD used on issued military watches....I am not saying it is, just saying how the color appears. I think it is most likely an old relume, but just my opinion

[Gabe218]

Originally Posted by ncstate1201

Yeah but that green is more acceptable in Tudor lume...I have not seen this lume color on a Tudor, it looks real mint green to me...it kind of reminds of the lume the MOD used on issued military watches....I am not saying it is, just saying how the color appears. I think it is most likely an old relume, but just my opinion

Yeah fair point. Thanks again


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[linesiders]

You get this and I'll trade you Mercedes hands needing lume for these Lollipop hands needing lume

Insert is legit Long 5, hands are wrong

[Gabe218]

Originally Posted by linesiders

You get this and I'll trade you Mercedes hands needing lume for these Lollipop hands needing lume



Insert is legit Long 5, hands are wrong

Can you send a picture?
Thanks


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[offrdmania]

If I recall, green Tritium lume is a sign of humidity

[offrdmania]

Originally Posted by offrdmania

Where is the mercedes in the hour hand?

My bad, I guess the lollipop hand is for a 76100.

[Gabe218]

Can anyone explain why only 2 links on the same position each side have rusted but none of the others?
Also can these be easily replaced?
What about the endlinks not joining, is it a case of scrapping the bracelet altogether?


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[offrdmania]

I dont think thats rust. It almost looks like copper. It looks like someone may have used copper to mate the last link with the end links. The bracelet probably wasnt original to that watch and the end links are mated to the last link by a cuff that is pressed together. Copper is a soft metal so it may have been used when the end links that fit this case were put on. A pic of the back of the bracelet showing this area will shed some light on it.

[Gabe218]

Originally Posted by offrdmania

I dont think thats rust. It almost looks like copper. It looks like someone may have used copper to mate the last link with the end links. The bracelet probably wasnt original to that watch and the end links are mated to the last link by a cuff that is pressed together. Copper is a soft metal so it may have been used when the end links that fit this case were put on. A pic of the back of the bracelet showing this area will shed some light on it.

Just asked the seller for more pictures. I'm pretty sure you're right. You can see it a lot clearer:



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[offrdmania]

My hunch was correct OP ; ) The end links not being tight to the inside of the lugs is probably because the inside of the lugs have been polished which when that is done, material is ground away creating that gap.

[jimmywhite]

following the thread, great help. Missing bezel and am trying to match up the size, not having much luck except it is supposed to be Mark 1. Is there a difference in Mark 1 to 3?
james

[linesiders]

Originally Posted by Gabe218

Can you send a picture?
Thanks


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If you get the watch or wait a few days I can dig out what I have (I have several sets of Mercedes hands missing lume)

Originally Posted by jimmywhite

following the thread, great help. Missing bezel and am trying to match up the size, not having much luck except it is supposed to be Mark 1. Is there a difference in Mark 1 to 3?
james

Bezel is standard plexi Rolex Tudor subs from 59-early 80s. Insert for a 60s would be a MK2 Long 5

[harry in montreal]

The tubes from the endlinks were junked in favour of that homebrew rusty or copper loop. The band requires restoration, it's a nice watch. So what is seller asking ? You could sell off the 7206 as they bring strong money

[Gabe218]

Originally Posted by harry in montreal

The tubes from the endlinks were junked in favour of that homebrew rusty or copper loop. The band requires restoration, it's a nice watch. So what is seller asking ? You could sell off the 7206 as they bring strong money

£2000 or $2500


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[harry in montreal]

I would grab it