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Andykllhr · 28 February 2017, 12:22 AM

Hi guys, I've searched the threads and other forums and am pretty content with the answers, however, thought I'd ask just in case.
My 14060 is an A series which puts it around 1999, however due to the "Swiss made" on the dial it puts it into early 2000 as this was when super luminova was used, around the transition between 14060 and 14060M. But, is there any possibility that it could be a 14060M internally and not a 14060 as the case is marked?
I know it's a slim chance and really makes no difference but I am very curious and thought I'd defer to the wealth of experience on this great forum.
Here's the best dial closeup I could get:

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herts9 · 28 February 2017, 12:31 AM

when you turn the crown clockwise, does the minute hand go counter clockwise?

cop414 · 28 February 2017, 12:37 AM

While I can't answer your question Andy, great looking watch!

Andykllhr · 28 February 2017, 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by herts9

when you turn the crown clockwise, does the minute hand go counter clockwise?

Yes it does

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Andykllhr · 28 February 2017, 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cop414

While I can't answer your question Andy, great looking watch!

Thanks 👍

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padi56 · 28 February 2017, 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andykllhr

Hi guys, I've searched the threads and other forums and am pretty content with the answers, however, thought I'd ask just in case.
My 14060 is an A series which puts it around 1999, however due to the "Swiss made" on the dial it puts it into early 2000 as this was when super luminova was used, around the transition between 14060 and 14060M. But, is there any possibility that it could be a 14060M internally and not a 14060 as the case is marked?
I know it's a slim chance and really makes no difference but I am very curious and thought I'd defer to the wealth of experience on this great forum.
Here's the best dial closeup I could get:

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Short answer no the case would be stamped 14060M the M stands for modified movement the change from the cal 3000 to the cal 3130 in 2000.The main difference with the cal 3000 and the cal 3130 is its got a full balance bridge, larger balance wheel breguet overcoil basically its now a cal 3135 without the date complication.You could get the back off but I would say you will find a cal 3000 inside.

Andykllhr · 28 February 2017, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by padi56

Short answer no the case would be stamped 14060M the M stands for modified movement the change from the cal 3000 to the cal 3130 in 2000.The main difference with the cal 3000 and the cal 3130 is its got a full balance bridge, larger balance wheel breguet overcoil basically its now a cal 3135 without the date complication.You could get the back off but I would say you will find a cal 3000 inside.

Yeah thought so, just thought I'd ask, thank you 👍

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herts9 · 28 February 2017, 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andykllhr

Yes it does

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reinforcing what Peter said.. and this would be indicative of a 3000-movement in a 14060

either way, fantastic watch! nothing beats a clean 5-digit two-liner

Andykllhr · 28 February 2017, 02:06 AM

Yeah, just dated the bracelet as November 99, so it is indeed a very late 14060, right before the change over to "M". Great news as this is a lot closer to the date that is significant to me (Apr 2000). Thank you for all your help guys 😉

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watchwatcher · 28 February 2017, 02:09 AM

Great looking watch...love the simplicity of the 2 line dial.

kilyung · 28 February 2017, 03:08 AM

Wish they made it in gold.

daveo5 · 28 February 2017, 03:17 AM

Basically the only difference between the two models, other than the wording on the dial, is the edges on some the the parts are more finished. Smoother. That is the difference. Less friction. That's all.

goldenpauls · 28 February 2017, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by cop414

While I can't answer your question Andy, great looking watch!

X2........... can't see me ever parting with my 14060M. Whether 'M' or no 'M' the 2-liner is just classic simplicity...........

encarter13 · 28 February 2017, 07:17 AM

Such a simple, yet amazing watch!

Andykllhr · 28 February 2017, 07:21 AM

👍

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28 February 2017, 12:22 AM	#1
Andykllhr "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Real Name: Andy Location: Portsmouth,UK Watch: Sub 116610LN Posts: 147	14060 experts Hi guys, I've searched the threads and other forums and am pretty content with the answers, however, thought I'd ask just in case. My 14060 is an A series which puts it around 1999, however due to the "Swiss made" on the dial it puts it into early 2000 as this was when super luminova was used, around the transition between 14060 and 14060M. But, is there any possibility that it could be a 14060M internally and not a 14060 as the case is marked? I know it's a slim chance and really makes no difference but I am very curious and thought I'd defer to the wealth of experience on this great forum. Here's the best dial closeup I could get: Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk __________________ Sub 14060 W Series (sold) Sub 16610 M Series (sold) Sub 14060 A series (sold) Sub 114060 (sold) EXP II 216570 (Current)

28 February 2017, 12:37 AM	#3
cop414 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Tim Location: Pennsylvania Watch: 14060M Posts: 72,234	While I can't answer your question Andy, great looking watch! __________________ Rolex Submariner 14060M Omega Seamaster 2254.50 DOXA Professional 1200T Card carrying member of TRF's Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons TRF's "After Dark" Bar & NightClub Patron P Club Member #17 2 FA ENABLED

28 February 2017, 02:06 AM	#9
Andykllhr "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Real Name: Andy Location: Portsmouth,UK Watch: Sub 116610LN Posts: 147	Yeah, just dated the bracelet as November 99, so it is indeed a very late 14060, right before the change over to "M". Great news as this is a lot closer to the date that is significant to me (Apr 2000). Thank you for all your help guys 😉 Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk __________________ Sub 14060 W Series (sold) Sub 16610 M Series (sold) Sub 14060 A series (sold) Sub 114060 (sold) EXP II 216570 (Current)

28 February 2017, 07:17 AM	#14
encarter13 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Real Name: Nick Location: Georgia Posts: 2,613	Such a simple, yet amazing watch! __________________ Instagram - watches_wine

28 February 2017, 07:21 AM	#15
Andykllhr "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Real Name: Andy Location: Portsmouth,UK Watch: Sub 116610LN Posts: 147	👍 Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk __________________ Sub 14060 W Series (sold) Sub 16610 M Series (sold) Sub 14060 A series (sold) Sub 114060 (sold) EXP II 216570 (Current)

28 February 2017, 12:31 AM	#2
herts9 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Real Name: Brian Location: Kentucky Watch: 116610LN Posts: 2,034	when you turn the crown clockwise, does the minute hand go counter clockwise?

28 February 2017, 02:09 AM	#10
watchwatcher "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Larry Location: Kentucky Watch: Yes Posts: 35,044	Great looking watch...love the simplicity of the 2 line dial.

28 February 2017, 03:08 AM	#11
kilyung 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,940	Wish they made it in gold.

28 February 2017, 03:17 AM	#12
daveo5 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Las Vegas NV Watch: 14060M COSC Posts: 1,336	Basically the only difference between the two models, other than the wording on the dial, is the edges on some the the parts are more finished. Smoother. That is the difference. Less friction. That's all.

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