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bjw · 22 March 2017, 11:43 PM

A 45min sub dial?!
Snow flake hour hand that pretty much blocks the sub dial-?!
I guess it really doesn't matter because you there is no contrast between the hands and the sub dial face so you can't read it anyway.

Please let me know what is the appeal ?

Its like the student that scrambled the night before his project was due just to have something to hand in.

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traf · 22 March 2017, 11:46 PM

Awful

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capote · 22 March 2017, 11:55 PM

I agree.

Tudor go home, you are drunk.

bjw · 23 March 2017, 12:00 AM

I mean dont get me wrong. I appreciated alot of different watches even though they may not be my style. I still get the overall concept and design,

But this makes NO sense from a functional stand point. Which is surprising coming from a company like Tudor which seems to take a more pragmatic approach in their design.

For those that do like it, I am curious as to why? Obviously the chronograph complication is not something one would use on this watch. Just for show i guess?

bjw · 23 March 2017, 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by capote

I agree.

Tudor go home, you are drunk.

anothernewphone · 23 March 2017, 12:06 AM

Hodinkee describes Tudor's 45-min counter as "historically significant." It doesn't make much sense to me. The snowflake hands don't make sense to me either.

The chronograph still called the "Black Bay" doesn't make sense to me. This watch doesn't make sense to me.

They seem to be going the way of Omega.

Wesley Crusher · 23 March 2017, 12:07 AM

ugazag · 23 March 2017, 12:09 AM

It is the horrible lovechild of a tool watch and a cheap fashion watch.
I'd bet money that this was designed by a committee. This committee likely was ordered to design this offering with certain required features. Said features were determined by various marketing studies and surveys - only the most popular features were used. I'm sure black was the most popular/biggest seller for sundial face. Unfortunately, another popular color for sundial hands was also black, but the whiz bangs in marketing research didn't think that those choices would be mutually exclusive.
Using that process, I can see how the concept came about. The sad thing is that someone approved the design. Hell, multiple people probably approved it.

LuminousMaximus · 23 March 2017, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Wesley Crusher

hehe nice...

superstarmar · 23 March 2017, 12:16 AM

Me , no likey the Tudor Chop Block !!!!

minithand · 23 March 2017, 12:18 AM

Yea, not a fan. I like a lot of the elements, especially Tudor's use of steel bezels this year, but I don't see the point in incorporating it into the Black Bay line. Seems like they could have made a new line, removed the snowflake hands and had a better watch.

I won't even comment on the 45 min register though...

904VT · 23 March 2017, 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bjw

A 45min sub dial?!
Snow flake hour hand that pretty much blocks the sub dial-?!
I guess it really doesn't matter because you there is no contrast between the hands and the sub dial face so you can't read it anyway.

Please let me know what is the appeal ?

Its like the student that scrambled the night before his project was due just to have something to hand in.

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If you want that extra 15 mins you have to upgrade to the Daytona

At this cheap price point I can't be too critical

Exploradori · 23 March 2017, 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anothernewphone

Hodinkee describes Tudor's 45-min counter as "historically significant." It doesn't make much sense to me. The snowflake hands don't make sense to me either.

The chronograph still called the "Black Bay" doesn't make sense to me. This watch doesn't make sense to me.

They seem to be going the way of Omega.

Agree. Horrible. So sad from a brand that I Ioved so much.

Feels it was made in a hurry combining spare parts from other watches.

And please stop with tha BlackBay branding of every single watch.

Nairn1980 · 23 March 2017, 03:07 AM

Absolute junker...what a waste of time.

Wcdhtwn · 23 March 2017, 03:29 AM

At least they didn't put a cyclops over the date. Or maybe they should've and someone would then have found enough sense not to make this.

Investr · 23 March 2017, 03:42 AM

Not a fan!!!

NLYogi · 23 March 2017, 03:49 AM

Nope. The subdials are so matte you cannot even see them. The watch does not invite you to play with the chronos and pushers like a Daytona or Speedmaster does.

S2000_driver · 23 March 2017, 04:00 AM

Took me some time last night to accept that this is really happening. 🤦*♂️

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landroverking · 23 March 2017, 04:07 AM

As I stated in other threads. I like it all but the snow flake hour hand.

Solo118 · 23 March 2017, 04:56 AM

I would take the bezel and put it on a THC

Fort Rolex · 23 March 2017, 08:00 AM

Everyone hates it now, therefor it will be a collectible in 20 years ;)

behardt · 23 March 2017, 08:03 AM

Invica couldn't sell a copy of these for $200...

amh · 23 March 2017, 08:30 AM

People will vote with their wallets, they'll either change it or kill it.

motoikkyu · 23 March 2017, 08:37 AM

I like it very much. That is so "under the radar" I'd have to carry the sales-receipt with me. I've heard the "historically significant" thing about a 45-min counter before, but I don't remember the details, I only remember the (3-minute?) emphasis on some of the 50s chronographs for timing international calls, which were billed in 3 min increments. Then again, we've seen on this forum how many of these stories turn out to be explanation after the fact. Like bowling being called the oldest sport because it comes from the time when people only had three fingers on each hand.

904VT · 23 March 2017, 08:39 AM

Did Tudor die today too

It's a $5k in-house (kind of) chronograph. No reason to get your Rolex papers in a bunch

GerardoG · 23 March 2017, 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anothernewphone

Hodinkee describes Tudor's 45-min counter as "historically significant." It doesn't make much sense to me. The snowflake hands don't make sense to me either.

The chronograph still called the "Black Bay" doesn't make sense to me. This watch doesn't make sense to me.

They seem to be going the way of Omega.

....45 min....exactly the time of each half of a soccer game!

bdex75 · 23 March 2017, 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 904VT

If you want that extra 15 mins you have to upgrade to the Daytona

At this cheap price point I can't be too critical

Ha

G'ed · 23 March 2017, 10:08 AM

Soccer mom get it. It work even when it get into overtime!

The Joker · 23 March 2017, 10:15 AM

Dunno whats going on with the subdial hands in first pic. Look black. White on the site.

I like it, apart from the snowflake, thats a major boo boo.

ulrichhh · 23 March 2017, 10:57 AM

too busy

22 March 2017, 11:43 PM	#1
bjw "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: USA Posts: 443	Black Bay Chronograph - This is a joke right...? A 45min sub dial?! Snow flake hour hand that pretty much blocks the sub dial-?! I guess it really doesn't matter because you there is no contrast between the hands and the sub dial face so you can't read it anyway. Please let me know what is the appeal ? Its like the student that scrambled the night before his project was due just to have something to hand in. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ 116710 BLNR 16710 COKE Tudor 7922R Tudor 79220N Tudor 79260P Panda "Opinions are like wrist watches, everyone's shows different time from the other. But all believe that theirs is accurate. "

23 March 2017, 12:00 AM	#4
bjw "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: USA Posts: 443	I mean dont get me wrong. I appreciated alot of different watches even though they may not be my style. I still get the overall concept and design, But this makes NO sense from a functional stand point. Which is surprising coming from a company like Tudor which seems to take a more pragmatic approach in their design. For those that do like it, I am curious as to why? Obviously the chronograph complication is not something one would use on this watch. Just for show i guess? __________________ 116710 BLNR 16710 COKE Tudor 7922R Tudor 79220N Tudor 79260P Panda "Opinions are like wrist watches, everyone's shows different time from the other. But all believe that theirs is accurate. "

23 March 2017, 08:03 AM	#22
behardt "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Real Name: Yoda Location: USA Posts: 468	Invica couldn't sell a copy of these for $200... __________________ "The world embarrasses me, and I cannot dream that this watch exists and has no watchmaker." Voltaire

23 March 2017, 08:37 AM	#24
motoikkyu 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: PRJ Posts: 1,732	I like it very much. That is so "under the radar" I'd have to carry the sales-receipt with me. I've heard the "historically significant" thing about a 45-min counter before, but I don't remember the details, I only remember the (3-minute?) emphasis on some of the 50s chronographs for timing international calls, which were billed in 3 min increments. Then again, we've seen on this forum how many of these stories turn out to be explanation after the fact. Like bowling being called the oldest sport because it comes from the time when people only had three fingers on each hand. __________________ "Do you like Breitling?" "I don't know, really, I've never been Breitled"

22 March 2017, 11:46 PM	#2
traf "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Real Name: dave Location: miami Watch: me ride bikes Posts: 1,938	Awful Sent from my iPhone 7+ using Tapatalk

22 March 2017, 11:55 PM	#3
capote "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: Daniel Location: Sweden Watch: 16570 Posts: 7,315	I agree. Tudor go home, you are drunk.

23 March 2017, 12:06 AM	#6
anothernewphone Banned Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Bill Location: Plymouth Meeting Watch: 116520 Posts: 3,209	Hodinkee describes Tudor's 45-min counter as "historically significant." It doesn't make much sense to me. The snowflake hands don't make sense to me either. The chronograph still called the "Black Bay" doesn't make sense to me. This watch doesn't make sense to me. They seem to be going the way of Omega.

23 March 2017, 12:07 AM	#7
Wesley Crusher "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Real Name: Wes Location: Holosuite Posts: 6,345

23 March 2017, 12:09 AM	#8
ugazag "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Real Name: Dennis Location: Savannah, GA Watch: 114060 Posts: 117	It is the horrible lovechild of a tool watch and a cheap fashion watch. I'd bet money that this was designed by a committee. This committee likely was ordered to design this offering with certain required features. Said features were determined by various marketing studies and surveys - only the most popular features were used. I'm sure black was the most popular/biggest seller for sundial face. Unfortunately, another popular color for sundial hands was also black, but the whiz bangs in marketing research didn't think that those choices would be mutually exclusive. Using that process, I can see how the concept came about. The sad thing is that someone approved the design. Hell, multiple people probably approved it.

23 March 2017, 12:16 AM	#10
superstarmar Banned Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: In Motion Watch: my wrist presence Posts: 7,436	Me , no likey the Tudor Chop Block !!!!

23 March 2017, 12:18 AM	#11
minithand "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Real Name: Bryan Location: Winston-Salem, NC Watch: Omega Speedmaster Posts: 4	Yea, not a fan. I like a lot of the elements, especially Tudor's use of steel bezels this year, but I don't see the point in incorporating it into the Black Bay line. Seems like they could have made a new line, removed the snowflake hands and had a better watch. I won't even comment on the 45 min register though...

23 March 2017, 03:07 AM	#14
Nairn1980 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: UK Watch: GMT Posts: 8,385	Absolute junker...what a waste of time.

23 March 2017, 03:29 AM	#15
Wcdhtwn "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Houston Watch: SkyD, SD43, GMT2 Posts: 5,061	At least they didn't put a cyclops over the date. Or maybe they should've and someone would then have found enough sense not to make this.

23 March 2017, 03:42 AM	#16
Investr Banned Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: Rick Location: LSU Watch: Constantly changes Posts: 3,815	Not a fan!!!

23 March 2017, 03:49 AM	#17
NLYogi "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 761	Nope. The subdials are so matte you cannot even see them. The watch does not invite you to play with the chronos and pushers like a Daytona or Speedmaster does.

23 March 2017, 04:00 AM	#18
S2000_driver "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: So Cal Posts: 268	Took me some time last night to accept that this is really happening. 🤦*♂️ Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

23 March 2017, 04:07 AM	#19
landroverking "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Jay Location: TEXAS Watch: Daytona Posts: 7,648	As I stated in other threads. I like it all but the snow flake hour hand.

23 March 2017, 04:56 AM	#20
Solo118 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: USA Watch: Daytona Posts: 6,092	I would take the bezel and put it on a THC

23 March 2017, 08:00 AM	#21
Fort Rolex "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: New Jersey Posts: 586	Everyone hates it now, therefor it will be a collectible in 20 years ;)

23 March 2017, 08:30 AM	#23
amh "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Tejas Watch: Various Posts: 5,082	People will vote with their wallets, they'll either change it or kill it.

23 March 2017, 08:39 AM	#25
904VT "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: USA Watch: All Rolex Posts: 7,024	Did Tudor die today too It's a $5k in-house (kind of) chronograph. No reason to get your Rolex papers in a bunch

23 March 2017, 10:08 AM	#28
G'ed "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: RolexHQ boardroom Posts: 1,232	Soccer mom get it. It work even when it get into overtime!

23 March 2017, 10:15 AM	#29
The Joker "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Gotham Posts: 9,641	Dunno whats going on with the subdial hands in first pic. Look black. White on the site. I like it, apart from the snowflake, thats a major boo boo.

23 March 2017, 10:57 AM	#30
ulrichhh "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: navy Posts: 51	too busy

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