3 Rolex Submariner 116610LN, which one?

[Sdre]

Hello all.

I have 3 offers to purchase 3 different 116610LNs. I'm hoping that i can get some insight on which to purchase. A few of my watch friends advised me on some conflicting views so I'm wondering if you guys can offer something different.

Key points to look at:

Year of sale
Completeness of set
Price/Best value

Option 1: I posted a few days earlier, I had a chance to purchase a 116610LN but the cyclops has some issues with glue and dust around it.
2013 Year
Local AD set
Full set (links, tag, box)
Rubber B straps
Condition of the watch is good. Some hairline scratches on the sides, bracelet is tight and new, watch was worn on Rubber B strap. Bezel of the watch looks abit offwhite. Biggest issue is the cyclops with the glue/dust around it. http://imgur.com/a/cgzqp
Price : 6100 USD

Option 2:
2011 Year
Taiwan AD set
Full set, booklets, links tag box etc
http://imgur.com/a/9b9Pz
Issue : Seller rarely wore it. As you can see from the pictures, its in very very good condition. Unpolished. Seller even went to China to work for 2 years, so its really unworn. I'm worried about the movement not moving well. It's been more than 5 years, so it might need a servicing, something that would add to my cost.
Price: 6100 USD

Option 3
Sept 2014
Spanish AD set
Full set (without box), otherwise card, bookets, links, tags all in
No picture, but its unpolished and I will be viewing it on Tuesday to see what its like
Price: 6100-6200 USD

So, a friend of mine said go for option 2, and wear it. If there's an issue, send it for servicing. I might try to ask for a discount on option 2 for a lower price in case i need to service it.

Another friend said go for option 3 or 1, considering its newer and option 1 has rubber b straps which are expensive. Glue and dust will stick to the cyclops anyways, in a months time, there won't be a difference between the 3 options. Or go for option 3, because its newer.

[Xerxes77]

IMO the last from Spain!
In Europe you can return in 30 days without any reason!
This is law in Europe so you are cover!
And I buy my Sub 116613 LN from Spain and not have any problem!

[Sdre]

Originally Posted by Xerxes77

IMO the last from Spain!
In Europe you can return in 30 days without any reason!
This is law in Europe so you are cover!
And I buy my Sub 116613 LN from Spain and not have any problem!

Hello!

Thanks for responding. Haha i'm based in Singapore, i don't think i can send it back to Spain after 3 years of the watch purchased for a refund?

Thank you anyways!

[cdmorenot]

I'd go with option 3.

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[Punchthefatkid]

What is the new price where you are compared to the used price in or around the $6100 range of watches you have been looking at?

Personally if I was spending that kind of money on a second hand watch i would be tempted to find the extra and buy new from a local AD.

That way you are 100% guaranteed a hassle free experience and if there are any issues with the watch (which hopefully there won't be) at least you haven't got far to return it.

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[Sdre]

Originally Posted by Punchthefatkid

What is the new price where you are compared to the used price in or around the $6100 range of watches you have been looking at?

Personally if I was spending that kind of money on a second hand watch i would be tempted to find the extra and buy new from a local AD.

That way you are 100% guaranteed a hassle free experience and if there are any issues with the watch (which hopefully there won't be) at least you haven't got far to return it.

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Hey, Brand new from AD in Singapore (if they do have a sub c date in stock) is around 8150 USD

[Sdre]

Originally Posted by cdmorenot

I'd go with option 3.

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Hi sir,

Any reason why you say that? Is it because its newer as in its a 2014 year?

[cdmorenot]

Originally Posted by Sdre

Hi sir,

Any reason why you say that? Is it because its newer as in its a 2014 year?

Yeah. I'd go with the newer one regardless of box. Ask for a slight price decrease.

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[kauffee]

Option 3 is still under warranty through September. Rolex extended the original 2 year warranty to 3 years for watches in that date range. However, it would have to be in very good condition to win out over option 2 for me.

[Sdre]

Originally Posted by kauffee

Option 3 is still under warranty through September. Rolex extended the original 2 year warranty to 3 years for watches in that date range. However, it would have to be in very good condition to win out over option 2 for me.

Just discussed with the missues. She says 2011 is quite old for a watch that hasn't moved for 2 years (period of time that the seller was in China)....

But i can't get over the condition of the watch though. It looks 9.8/10 to me. Cosmetic wise of course.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by Sdre

Hello all.

I have 3 offers to purchase 3 different 116610LNs. I'm hoping that i can get some insight on which to purchase. A few of my watch friends advised me on some conflicting views so I'm wondering if you guys can offer something different.

Key points to look at:

Year of sale
Completeness of set
Price/Best value

Option 1: I posted a few days earlier, I had a chance to purchase a 116610LN but the cyclops has some issues with glue and dust around it.
2013 Year
Local AD set
Full set (links, tag, box)
Rubber B straps
Condition of the watch is good. Some hairline scratches on the sides, bracelet is tight and new, watch was worn on Rubber B strap. Bezel of the watch looks abit offwhite. Biggest issue is the cyclops with the glue/dust around it. http://imgur.com/a/cgzqp
Price : 6100 USD

Option 2:
2011 Year
Taiwan AD set
Full set, booklets, links tag box etc
http://imgur.com/a/9b9Pz
Issue : Seller rarely wore it. As you can see from the pictures, its in very very good condition. Unpolished. Seller even went to China to work for 2 years, so its really unworn. I'm worried about the movement not moving well. It's been more than 5 years, so it might need a servicing, something that would add to my cost.
Price: 6100 USD

Option 3
Sept 2014
Spanish AD set
Full set (without box), otherwise card, bookets, links, tags all in
No picture, but its unpolished and I will be viewing it on Tuesday to see what its like
Price: 6100-6200 USD

So, a friend of mine said go for option 2, and wear it. If there's an issue, send it for servicing. I might try to ask for a discount on option 2 for a lower price in case i need to service it.

Another friend said go for option 3 or 1, considering its newer and option 1 has rubber b straps which are expensive. Glue and dust will stick to the cyclops anyways, in a months time, there won't be a difference between the 3 options. Or go for option 3, because its newer.

Afraid Rolex does not make watches by the year would expect all the watches you list are random serials. So all could have been made sometime from the latter part of 2010 till present time.

[Sdre]

Originally Posted by padi56

Afraid Rolex does not make watches by the year would expect all the watches you list are random serials. So all could have been made sometime from the latter part of 2010 till present time.

Oh, thanks for the correction! So how would i know the actual year of the watch then? Booklet or cert/card?

[stone_gossard]

All options different AD, but is it thru online or shops in Singapore? If all 3 watches are from shops in Singapore, just go with option 3 and buy the box later on. Would the shop gives you warranty right ?

[gregmoeck]

Option 1 looks really bad. I personally would just wait, save a few more hundred and get a new model, why take a chance

[Sdre]

Originally Posted by stone_gossard

All options different AD, but is it thru online or shops in Singapore? If all 3 watches are from shops in Singapore, just go with option 3 and buy the box later on. Would the shop gives you warranty right ?

Hi. The options are not from ADs or shops. They Individual sellers all through local forums or local sales groups in facebook

[Sdre]

Originally Posted by gregmoeck

Option 1 looks really bad. I personally would just wait, save a few more hundred and get a new model, why take a chance

Brand 116610 from AD is 8150 usd atm

[Zyfon]

I vote for option 3. A complete set is going for around 6900 usd here in Thailand, so 6100 is a really good deal IMO.

[kauffee]

A few thoughts...

-Is BNIB from a gray market dealer an option for you? That price would be between the used prices and the AD price.

-The pics for the #2 are poor quality pics. You have a clasp with some desk dive marks and some hairlines on the polished surfaces. All normal, but I wouldn't expect it to be near mint. I would ask for more and better quality pictures. Also, have you asked the seller how it's running in terms of timekeeping? Should be an easy thing to find out.

-I would try to get one with some warranty. This is obviously a very popular watch and if you find one sold after Jul 2015 it'll have 5 years from the sell date. I think you should be able to find one for just slightly more than the cost of these.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by Sdre

Oh, thanks for the correction! So how would i know the actual year of the watch then? Booklet or cert/card?

Only Rolex would know exactly when it was made if you have dated bill of sale thats when it was sold, the new plastic card is scanned by the AD at point of sale.Again this is when it was sold and not when it was made,but Subs are fast sellers and not at the ADs long before they are sold.

[Sdre]

Originally Posted by kauffee

A few thoughts...

-Is BNIB from a gray market dealer an option for you? That price would be between the used prices and the AD price.

-The pics for the #2 are poor quality pics. You have a clasp with some desk dive marks and some hairlines on the polished surfaces. All normal, but I wouldn't expect it to be near mint. I would ask for more and better quality pictures. Also, have you asked the seller how it's running in terms of timekeeping? Should be an easy thing to find out.

-I would try to get one with some warranty. This is obviously a very popular watch and if you find one sold after Jul 2015 it'll have 5 years from the sell date. I think you should be able to find one for just slightly more than the cost of these.

Hi, a brand new even gray market would be in the region of 7.5-8k USD
the local pre own shops have increased the prices on their rolex selection; and i suspect they might be keeping their ceramic subs in the safe for a while. I walked around town last weekend and couldn't find any Ceramic subs. I did find a 114060 without box and without papers; going for close to 6K USD.

I suspect the Pre own shops (they have increased the prices TOGETHER) are trying to create an artificial demand.... thus such is the landscape for the preown shops.

2015 models are going for close to 6.6-6.8k USD which I feel is at least 500-800 more than what my budget is holding out for.

I have myself a budget, and i'm hoping to work within it :)

[Sdre]

Originally Posted by padi56

Only Rolex would know exactly when it was made if you have dated bill of sale thats when it was sold, the new plastic card is scanned by the AD at point of sale.Again this is when it was sold and not when it was made,but Subs are fast sellers and not at the ADs long before they are sold.

yup thats what the cards in each of the option says. each option 1,2 and 3 have full set (option 3 only doens't have box)