116710LN for 16710 Coke??

[KennethHoward]

Hi guys, I'm facing a huge dilemma right now and could really use some advise.

So today I stumbled upon someone selling a GMT Coke 16710, and I'd recently gotten the 116710LN after I had surrendered a long search for the 16710 Coke. And now I'm wondering if I should trade my 116710LN for the 16710 Coke or if I should buy it and sell mine(hoping to earn more out of it), and also wondering if it's worth doing so. Both watches have full sets and are in similar conditions.


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[GMT Aviator]

I have both.

Things to bear in mind.....

The newer ceramic model is a more robust piece. It will handle the day to day knocks of life a little better than the old Coke will.

Don't get hung up on the 16710 bezel colour. You could buy a 16710 LN and swap the bezel insert for a Coke one for peanuts.

The bracelet on the ceramic is much better quality than the old hollow link and tuna can clasp of the 16710.

Having said all this, 16710 prices are still climbing and who knows where they will stop.

The ceramics are still in production and depreciate from new.

I love the 16710's I own, but much prefer the ceramic GMT for day to day. I treat the others as 'semi retired' now and don't give them a hard time so as to preserve their longevity as best I can, but the 16710's are still more than capable of being a daily wearer.

I guess it all boils down to which one sings to you the most.

[kwingy]

I have made this exact same switch in the past and can understand the need for some colour but like what has been said above - just think about what you would lose if you made the switch.
The 16710 def feels nice on the wrist once you get the fitment right but after a while I think you will miss the prescence of the newer model. Plus the newer model can be worn in pretty much all situations from casual to work seemlessly. I don't think you can say that all the time about the Coke.
As much as I love the classics of yesteryear - I think you should stick with what you have IMO. Unless you are thinking long term as the prices are defintely rising on the older 16710's with full set but you have to wear the watch at the end of the day and you should want to enjoy it now rather then box it away for the future.

[Robbyman]

I would make that trade. They are not making anymore of that model and good ones will become harder to get.

You can always get another Ceramic GMT.

I swapped SubC to 16610 and made the right choice for me as I have smaller wrists and like the classic lines. The Ceramic wear big, so if this is an issue definitely make he change.

[The Libertine]

Originally Posted by Robbyman

I would make that trade. They are not making anymore of that model and good ones will become harder to get.

You can always get another Ceramic GMT.

I swapped SubC to 16610 and made the right choice for me as I have smaller wrists and like the classic lines. The Ceramic wear big, so if this is an issue definitely make he change.

Good reasoning here.

For me, I almost went with the LN as the 16710 was no longer sold new, and was concerned about finding a Coke in excellent condition. But I simply could not get past the new styling, my dislike of the polished center links, and no use for ceramic bezel upgrade. Finally, a 16710 model came along that met all my requirements. That was two years ago, and prices have only continued to rise since.

My opinion, if you truly prefer the 16710, and have no need for the "upgrades" to the LN, and are able to make a good trade - yes - I would do it.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by KennethHoward

Hi guys, I'm facing a huge dilemma right now and could really use some advise.

So today I stumbled upon someone selling a GMT Coke 16710, and I'd recently gotten the 116710LN after I had surrendered a long search for the 16710 Coke. And now I'm wondering if I should trade my 116710LN for the 16710 Coke or if I should buy it and sell mine(hoping to earn more out of it), and also wondering if it's worth doing so. Both watches have full sets and are in similar conditions.


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Well there are millions of 16710 in the world today with all 3 inserts which are DIY change.And just like the 116710 in the same time period there will be millions of those around,simple answer buy the watch you want to own and wear its that simple.

[Rami_m]

Originally Posted by padi56

Well there are millions of 16710 in the world today with all 3 inserts which are DIY change,simple answer buy the watch you want to own and wear its that simple.

Where do you find such things? I may be in the market for one.


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[travisb]

You were searching for a 16710 and gave up looking. Sounds like the LN was second fiddle. Get the Coke!

[1William]

I would not do a trade. If you have the funds for the purchase, buy it and wear both as they are truly two different watches. If you can only have one I would keep the one you have. Modern case, dial and bracelet. I also believe the newer model is more robust in design and as such will hold up better in the long run. The older GMT hype I do not get and some of the prices are not reasonable in my opinion. For me it is just another kind of Rolex hype fueled by dealers, the internet and owners pushing prices up. Just my thoughts.

[KennethHoward]

I definitely do prefer the 16710 because of the brushed links and I love the Coke bezel better.

But I do agree that the newer model is more robust and the upgrades are kinda needed as I have quite big wrists and need that bigger look the newer model offers.

I've thought of possibly changing the bezel insert, but I feel like the Coke bezel with the green GMT hand wouldn't work together.

I have tried on the Coke before and it did look a little small on my wrist at first but it did grow on me after a few minutes, not too sure if I was just trying to make myself feel better about it, unfortunately I did not manage to take any pictures of it at that time.

I guess I'm very drawn to it because that was the model that called out to me when I first started to research and look around at luxury watches.

Here's a picture of the 116710LN if it helps with any reference to the size. Haha.




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[rjstuf001]

Originally Posted by KennethHoward

I've thought of possibly changing the bezel insert, but I feel like the Coke bezel with the green GMT hand wouldn't work together.

You can't put an aluminum insert in a GMTII-C bezel anyway.

OP, I would do the trade if I were you. The 16710 is timeless.

[Boopie]

My husband wanted a daily wearer watch because he had a SS/black Sub with sentimental value, that he wanted to conserve. We found a basically unusued 16710 coke. The dealer also got a brand new Pepsi bezel from RSC, and a vintage Pepsi bezel for it. My husband wears the vintage Pepsi bezel every day. The bracelet is much more comfortable than the Sub, and because he travels the GMT function is practical.

Plus, there is the "Magnum P.I." coolness factor. (Maybe the Ferrari will arrive some day).

There is nothing flimsy about the bracelet or clasp. He has worn it daily for almost two years and loves it.

So, new bezels are available from the RSC, if you want new looking. If you favor the Pepsi bezel, but can find a good deal only on the Coke, the bezel can be easily swapped out.

I think the best new ceramic bezel is BLNR so that would be a tough choice.

[Mezz72]

do it, and then save up for a batman.

[douglasf13]

I'd definitely do it. I'm not sure I can think of a 6-digit watch that I wouldn't trade for its preceding 5-digit version.

[swish77]

Originally Posted by douglasf13

I'd definitely do it. I'm not sure I can think of a 6-digit watch that I wouldn't trade for its preceding 5-digit version.

100 percent agree. The five-digit (and four-digit) references are just cooler, and have more classic, graceful lines. Also, if they're well taken care of they are as robust as any new watch.

There might technically have been millions made of all the old Rolex GMTs, but trust me, the ones in great condition are getting harder and harder to find. I spent a long time looking for a good 16700. They're out there, but you need to hunt, and prices are going up and up.

[HL65]

Originally Posted by swish77

100 percent agree. The five-digit (and four-digit) references are just cooler, and have more classic, graceful lines. Also, if they're well taken care of they are as robust as any new watch.

There might technically have been millions made of all the old Rolex GMTs, but trust me, the ones in great condition are getting harder and harder to find. I spent a long time looking for a good 16700. They're out there, but you need to hunt, and prices are going up and up.

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[lig]

Originally Posted by Mezz72

do it, and then save up for a batman.

+1. That's what I would do.

[tomchicago]

16710 all day long. Since they were original to the model, RSC will sell you Pepsi and black bezel inserts if you like, plus a jubilee bracelet. Also the 116710 is just too lumey and huge number on bezel for my taste.

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[Showcall]

[QUOTE=tomchicago;7504452]16710 all day long. Since they were original to the model, RSC will sell you Pepsi and black bezel inserts if you like, plus a jubilee bracelet. Also the 116710 is just too lumey and huge number on bezel for my taste.

I second that

[mondo74]

Do the trade all day, every day.

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[VinnieVegas]

I own a coke 16710 and it is my go to watch. I have pepsi and black inserts, too. The 16710 never fails.

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[sensui]

It's funny because if this was the BLNR....the decision would become 100x harder....but I agree with the 5 digit supporters...the 16710/16700 is a cooler cat than the ln. If the loss isn't great or you gain a bit....make the trade.

[douglasf13]

Originally Posted by sensui

It's funny because if this was the BLNR....the decision would become 100x harder....but I agree with the 5 digit supporters...the 16710/16700 is a cooler cat than the ln. If the loss isn't great or you gain a bit....make the trade.

Oddly enough, while I'd take the 5-digit over either by a long shot, I actually prefer the LN to the BLNR.

[sensui]

Originally Posted by douglasf13

Oddly enough, while I'd take the 5-digit over either by a long shot, I actually prefer the LN to the BLNR.

That's what makes this interesting, different tastes. I actually think blnr is the best looking 6 digit stainless...Once again ...imo.

[AK797]

I prefer the bezel insert on the ceramic, never did like the old numbers.

[Ryuden]

Originally Posted by KennethHoward

... I'd recently gotten the 116710LN after I had surrendered a long search for the 16710 Coke...

There's your answer... I will totally get the coke if the conditions is like what you mentioned...

[Bigsykedaddy]

I would do it (not because I prefer 5 digits) because you can always go back and get a GMTc LN for a really good price (it seems you can find them for a great discount from trusted sellers.)

The 5 digit GMT is the only 5 digit I would consider (besides the Day Date) because I really like the fact that you can buy a LN and BLRO insert and swap them out whenever you feel like it

[Rami_m]

So, sorry if I derail the original topic a bit. But would you go Coke z series for 7k usd or blnr for 8k usd? Sort of moving back on forth on this.


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[douglasf13]

Originally Posted by Rami_m

So, sorry if I derail the original topic a bit. But would you go Coke z series for 7k usd or blnr for 8k usd? Sort of moving back on forth on this.


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It's solely a matter of taste, so it's up to you. Some people think it's nuts to spend nearly the same for the old model, but I'd pick the old model all day.

[Andad]

Originally Posted by Rami_m

So, sorry if I derail the original topic a bit. But would you go Coke z series for 7k usd or blnr for 8k usd? Sort of moving back on forth on this.


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Dumb question but is it a 3185 or 3186?
I would take a BLNR before a 3185 but not a 3186.

Peter would agree?