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Old 12 April 2006, 12:50 AM   #1
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A prisoner who wants to be able to wear a stab-proof vest to protect him from other inmates has had his plea rejected by a High Court judge.

Category A prisoner John Shelley said a refusal to allow the purchase of a vest violated his rights under the European Convention on Human Rights.

But Mr Justice Collins said there was "no arguable case" that the prisoner's rights had been violated.

Shelley is serving a 15-year term in HMP Long Lartin, in Worcestershire.

The prisoner, who presented his case by video link, launched legal proceedings in an attempt to win a court order requiring the prison service to allow him to buy a stab-proof vest.

Although he had not been attacked, Shelley told the judge that he had been threatened.

Rejecting his case in London, Mr Justice Collins said: "He is concerned that there is a culture of manufacture of hand-made knives and points out, as is indeed the case, that there have been a number of lock-down searches.

"He is concerned that he will not get, and is not getting, proper protection from the prison service."

The judge said for Shelley's case to succeed it would "require very positive evidence indeed" of a failure by the prison authorities to carry out their obligations regarding the protection of inmates.

But he ruled that there was "no such evidence".

Mr Justice Collins added that if a court ruled that there was an obligation to provide stab-proof vests "then such requests would no doubt become commonplace and that itself could create a real problem in dealing with good order and discipline".

"There is no arguable case that there is a breach of any of the claimant's rights," concluded the judge.



Oh dear so the poor man was threatened while in the clink. Well tough, if he hadn't broken the law then he wouldn't be there in the first place. Now he has to live with the consequences, human rights issue my ars#. We have reached the point now where criminals, can use human rights to try and justify almost anything. That wasn't what the bill was originally intended for, and its time more judges showed the same degree of common sense as this one.But I wouldn't have thought a stab vest would do him much good, don't they normally stab you in the ars# in prison?.Maybe he thought he could turn it upside down and stick his legs out of the arm holes.Another frivolous legal challenge, at taxpayers cost, benefiting only the greedy lawyers.
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Old 12 April 2006, 01:01 AM   #2
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Here in Ontario it costst he taxpayers an average of $140,000 a year (give or take) to keep someone incarcerated in a provincial institution. I'm betting it's closer to $200K per in Federal facilities... If these guys want to off each other while inside, they're doing the taxpayers a favour, IMHO.

When you look at a monster like Paul Bernardo, who's in a Federal jail, in solitary 24-7... I'm sure his upkeep would be close to $400K a year. The guy was proven guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt, DNA tests proved that. So why not release him into 'general population' at his facility and let the 'survival of the fittest' take it's course. I'm sure he wouldn't last a week in GP.

That said, I'm sure Bernardo, being in solitary for the past 12 years, is likely on the verge on insanity anyways... moreso than before he got locked up. If we make jail a nasty place to go (and believe me, I've been in a couple of jails on tours and even the short term city lock-ups are NOT nice places) then maybe fewer people would commit.
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When you look at a monster like Paul Bernardo, who's in a Federal jail, in solitary 24-7... I'm sure his upkeep would be close to $400K a year. The guy was proven guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt, DNA tests proved that. So why not release him into 'general population' at his facility and let the 'survival of the fittest' take it's course. I'm sure he wouldn't last a week in GP.

I just googled him and he should absolutly be released into the GP
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Here in Ontario it costst he taxpayers an average of $140,000 a year (give or take) to keep someone incarcerated in a provincial institution. I'm betting it's closer to $200K per in Federal facilities... If these guys want to off each other while inside, they're doing the taxpayers a favour, IMHO.

When you look at a monster like Paul Bernardo, who's in a Federal jail, in solitary 24-7... I'm sure his upkeep would be close to $400K a year. The guy was proven guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt, DNA tests proved that. So why not release him into 'general population' at his facility and let the 'survival of the fittest' take it's course. I'm sure he wouldn't last a week in GP.

That said, I'm sure Bernardo, being in solitary for the past 12 years, is likely on the verge on insanity anyways... moreso than before he got locked up. If we make jail a nasty place to go (and believe me, I've been in a couple of jails on tours and even the short term city lock-ups are NOT nice places) then maybe fewer people would commit.
Yes agree John I am afraid the lock them up in home from home prisons is not working.But think that particular guy above needs putting down,very slowly.
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