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Old 28 August 2017, 08:38 AM   #1
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HI ALL JUST A BIT OF NEWS WHAT I FOUND

WOULD be INTERESTING IF ANYBODY WHO GOT A MILLON SPARE WOULD BUY THIS BEAUTY???

The Celestia was inspired by astronomy, took five years to develop and will cost you a cool $1 million

By KEITH W STRANDBERG
Sunday 27 August 2017

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In 2016, Vacheron Constantin created the most complicated timepiece ever, the 57260 pocket watch, featuring 57 complications. It caused a stir in the horological industry.

This year, the company has doubled down, introducing its most complicated wristwatch, the Les Cabinotiers Celestia Astronomical Grand Complication 3600, with 23 complications.

One would assume these two developments had to have been connected - symbiotic, even. But the truth is, they were both developed in secret, with neither development team even aware of the other's existence.

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The Celestia was made to honour the way the grand watchmaking masters worked, according to Christian Selmoni, Vacheron Constantin's artistic director. "They were developing something that reflected their new ideas, without regard for the time required," he says. "In almost all other watchmaking brands, this kind of spirit doesn't exist - we always tend to reuse something to save time. Developing movements just for one piece is unique. This timepiece was created in the spirit of the historical astronomical clocks with extraordinary levels of precision, and that makes the Celestia very important."

The Celestia, the brainchild of a project head, master watchmaker and conceptor (of whom Vacheron Constantin would not release his name for fear of being poached - he will from here on be referred to as "MW"), is part of a relatively recent programme inside the Les Cabinotiers ("the Artisans") department. Its aim is to develop unique "blue sky" timepieces while undertaking its raison d'etre, bespoke work. MW has had a lifelong interest in astronomy, and astronomical indications are at the Celestia's core.

"Astronomy is a very serious science as is watchmaking. Without astronomy, we wouldn't be able to measure time - it's all dependent," MW explains. "Our ancestors were reading the time with the stars, the Sun and the Moon, and the origins of watchmaking come from astronomy."

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According to MW, mathematics was at the very heart of the Celestia's development. "The initial idea is to think about the concept of the watch, then to work out the equations to make it a reality," he explains. "I spent a year conceiving the watch and working on the mathematical equations, then I had to transform the mathematics into gear trains to provide the indications.

The Celestia's rear display has a celestial chart indicating sidereal time
The Celestia's rear display has a celestial chart indicating sidereal time
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"For example, if I want to make a wheel turn, I have to calculate the number of teeth on the wheel. All the other wheels depend on this equation, so I need to be able to understand the principles, even though I have the software," he says. "No software can give me the answers. I rely on these equations and the powerful software to find a solution with our input. It's a question of using these tools to find new solutions."

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The Celestia's development took five years - three of which were dedicated to conceptualisation, including mathematical work, then it took two years to fabricate the watch itself. Not every company would allow this kind of development, but Vacheron Constantin, as the oldest continuous-watchmaking maison in the world, feels a responsibility to push horology forward.

"We have an obligation to advance watchmaking with our developments," MW says. "For example, we do an astronomical Moon phase that also incorporates a coaxial day/night indicator, based on the solar gear train. For the Moon phase display, a 3D Moon is engraved on a superimposed sapphire crystal disc, which is also linked to the solar gear train. We have a figurative perception of the Moon in the sky, and it is much more precise than most normal Moon phases. We could do something very simple, but that's not what our department's mission is."

The most challenging piece of the Celestia's puzzle was the running equation of time, a display that shows the difference between apparent solar time (true solar time, the actual solar day) and mean solar time (for all intents and purposes, civil time). Usually, the equation of time is displayed using plus or minus relative to normal civil time (this can be ahead by more than 15 minutes or behind by as much as 14 minutes throughout the year).

"The running equation of time in the Celestia is not linked to the perpetual calendar because that would not be precise enough," MW explains. "We developed one gear train that's linked to the solar indications, and the equation of time is driven by this dedicated tropical gear train, with a precision of approximately 150 years. This is much more precise than the perpetual calendar gear train

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Old 31 August 2017, 01:14 AM   #2
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Old 31 August 2017, 01:19 AM   #3
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Pics would be nice, will try to find and come back
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Old 31 August 2017, 01:25 AM   #4
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Ok it is really cool, anyone have a million they can give me? Or lend but on my son's name? No? Ok then I guess winning the euro million is the only way then, will soon be in Paris will play. Really cooo watch


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Old 31 August 2017, 06:29 AM   #5
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yes it is a cool piece but hey 1 mill wow you can buy some serious Rolexes with this and have some money left over for a posh holiday
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Old 31 August 2017, 06:32 AM   #6
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yes it is a cool piece but hey 1 mill wow you can buy some serious Rolexes with this and have some money left over for a posh holiday
"Serious Rolexes"??? 2 different galaxies my friend, you can get serious Pateks or AP's, but Rolex really doesn't play in the same category as VC
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Old 31 August 2017, 06:38 AM   #7
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I certainly agree their are nice pieces of VC but you also got to lay out serious money for something special. If you can then it is well worth it

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Old 31 August 2017, 07:01 AM   #8
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I certainly agree their are nice pieces of VC but you also got to lay out serious money for something special. If you can then it is well worth it

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I also don't have that kind of cash, and prefer PP or AP, but this one is something
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Old 31 August 2017, 07:10 AM   #9
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I also don't have that kind of cash, and prefer PP or AP, but this one is something
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Except if I win at euromillion, few chances
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Awesome watch and piece of engineering but Id stick with $75-100k worth of multiple watches and use the other $900k on a bigger boat.


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Old 31 August 2017, 11:15 AM   #12
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I'd buy it but it makes me dizzy to look at it.
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Old 31 August 2017, 12:05 PM   #13
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Sensational. I adore vacherons quirky dials. Their ability to make a complicated dial not boring is only rivaled by Lange. The difference is that they add warmth to the whole aesthetic where Lange adds sterility.
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Sensational. I adore vacherons quirky dials. Their ability to make a complicated dial not boring is only rivaled by Lange. The difference is that they add warmth to the whole aesthetic where Lange adds sterility.


This sums it up quite nicely for me, too.
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Now that you have finished yelling my answer is no.

Far better uses for that much money and far better watches for far less.
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And people try to say VC isn't still in the top 3
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Sorry, this watch is marvelous in many ways but I prefer A Lange Sohne Double Split Chronograph or something that I would appreciate its complexity that I would use a lot not something quirky equinox, solar time, sunset, sun rise and such unnecessary features
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I love these sorts of quirky pieces. Simply telling the time isn't enough.

This PDF book is well worth a read, gives a great level of detail around this whole area of horology as well as reviewing the Trilogy of Time pieces.

https://www.sbg.ac.at/irk/div/trilogy/28apr.pdf
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Love it but wouldn't spend that sort of cash on a VC. Astrological complications are my next addition and hence looking at some vdKlaauw.
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