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ot180 · 6 November 2008, 11:53 AM

Not to offend anyone, but I am not seeing the difference (besides colors). The Submariner, GMT, and Sea dweller all look very similar to the untrained eye. The dd, datejust, and daytona look very different of course, but I'm just not seeing the differences in the sports models. Can someone tip me off...

BTW: Just recently bitten by the bug so I'm taking in all I can. Amazing forum y'all....but a bit addictive

mfer · 6 November 2008, 11:56 AM

Look pretty different to me.

Incurable · 6 November 2008, 12:02 PM

Oh, they're different all right... You're probably keying in on the case, bracelet and even bezel too much. The 40mm 'sports' watches share the same 'look' to the case although there are differences. The oyster bracelet looks the same also, even though they are unique and carry different part numbers. The bezel is, again, different but similar. I forgot the dial, they could look the same as well. I would suggest you read up (here of course) a bit on the Sub, GMT and SD and you'll soon know and see the difference readily. Maybe Mike can chime in with a good comparison pic to see for yourself... Welcome and enjoy your stay

carbon6 · 6 November 2008, 12:02 PM

The numbers on the bezel and the hour markers on the dial are different sized.

Brunotheboxer · 6 November 2008, 12:04 PM

If you read the threads and keep looking at the pics you will soon see what you are missing.

Tools · 6 November 2008, 12:27 PM

You need practice..

Of course they all do look like Invictas to me.............

cody p · 6 November 2008, 01:25 PM

you are not alone.

limbo · 6 November 2008, 02:12 PM

Same same, but different

Seriously, they are different - Bezel, cyclops, case, dial...

GBJIV · 6 November 2008, 03:04 PM

Hmmm, That's what my wife says about my watches also.

Latrodectus · 6 November 2008, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ot180

Not to offend anyone, but I am not seeing the difference (besides colors). The Submariner, GMT, and Sea dweller all look very similar to the untrained eye. The dd, datejust, and daytona look very different of course, but I'm just not seeing the differences in the sports models. Can someone tip me off...

BTW: Just recently bitten by the bug so I'm taking in all I can. Amazing forum y'all....but a bit addictive

As you said: to the untrained eye

Your eyes will get trained right here

Welcome to the great TRF! You are hooked

Andad · 6 November 2008, 03:22 PM

I needed one of each so I could tell the difference.

lorsban · 6 November 2008, 03:26 PM

Yeah, the the GMT/Sub/SD are all similarly styled if not for minor differences. I mean, show it to any non-rolexer and they'll say it's the same watch. I actually mistook my friend's TT GMT for a TTSub a few years back. I mean, everything's the same between the two except for the gmt hand and 24hour markings.

Explorers/yachtmasters/daytonas are all pretty distinct, though. No way you'd confuse those for anything else.

Singslinger · 6 November 2008, 06:26 PM

It's brilliant in its simplicity - come up with a basic design that has mass appeal, then tweak it slightly for different models while ensuring that the core design stays intact. In short, if it ain't broke, why fix it?

What's interesting to me is that even when that basic, tried and trusted appearance is closely adhered to, too much of a variation in size sometimes draws howls of criticism from the purists - recall for example, the ongoing controversy over the recently-launched Deep Sea in this forum.

jdc · 6 November 2008, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ot180

Not to offend anyone, but I am not seeing the difference (besides colors). The Submariner, GMT, and Sea dweller all look very similar to the untrained eye. The dd, datejust, and daytona look very different of course, but I'm just not seeing the differences in the sports models. Can someone tip me off...

BTW: Just recently bitten by the bug so I'm taking in all I can. Amazing forum y'all....but a bit addictive

I think that is fair comment and something my wife would agree with

However stick around and you will become anal like the rest of us

Jimbits76 · 6 November 2008, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdc

I think that is fair comment and something my wife would agree with

However stick around and you will become anal like the rest of us

Speak for yourself!!!!!

They are just watches...some are prettier than others!

My wife would be in agreement with Martin's!!!!!!!!!

She'd never understand why somebody would want a collection of sub date, LV, ND COSC, ND Non COSC etc...don't get her started on the vintages!!!!!!!!!

J

ronin7 · 6 November 2008, 09:58 PM

BLASPHEMY

CPTL · 6 November 2008, 10:56 PM

That's why you should get an Explorer-II!

Quicksilver · 6 November 2008, 11:00 PM

To the untrained eye they do look similar. The Sub, GMT and DSD are all a variation on a theme. However, stick around a bit and you well quickly see the difference.

Jimbits76 · 6 November 2008, 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ot180

Not to offend anyone, but I am not seeing the difference (besides colors). The Submariner, GMT, and Sea dweller all look very similar to the untrained eye. The dd, datejust, and daytona look very different of course, but I'm just not seeing the differences in the sports models. Can someone tip me off...

BTW: Just recently bitten by the bug so I'm taking in all I can. Amazing forum y'all....but a bit addictive

Quote:

Originally Posted by Latrodectus

As you said: to the untrained eye

Your eyes will get trained right here

Welcome to the great TRF! You are hooked

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quicksilver

To the untrained eye they do look similar. The Sub, GMT and DSD are all a variation on a theme. However, stick around a bit and you well quickly see the difference.

Hello guys, my name is James.

I'm relatively new to this Rolex collecting lark...Is there anywhere I can go to have this eye training you keep refering to?

J

marshallr47 · 6 November 2008, 11:20 PM

They are all different in their own special way.

jdc · 7 November 2008, 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbits76

Hello guys, my name is James.

I'm relatively new to this Rolex collecting lark...Is there anywhere I can go to have this eye training you keep refering to?

J

sirjohnbrian · 7 November 2008, 01:04 AM

You actually need to see more to pick them out. Beware, the more you see, the greater the likelihood of being sucked in...

Jimbits76 · 7 November 2008, 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdc

Martin...I hate you.

I am frightened of clowns...spesh evil ones.

Great now I have to change my pants...the fourth time today!

J

ot180 · 27 August 2009, 07:31 AM

Now I get it.... You have to try one on to understand!

RedBaronF2001 · 27 August 2009, 07:35 AM

My wife, too, thinks that I'm crazy for wanting a GMT IIc since it "looks similar to my Sea-Dweller." It takes a WIS to appreciate the differences between models and between the years.

bodybump · 27 August 2009, 07:37 AM

thats why you gusy need to buy different insert colors..heheheh

Omega_Precision · 27 August 2009, 07:37 AM

They make look similar to someone not familiar with the brand but each watch behaves differently or designed to function differently.

jeangtd · 27 August 2009, 07:55 AM

DITTO (everyone thats looks at my watch box)

plat-numb · 27 August 2009, 08:15 AM

Mine looks different.

http://www.armourwinston.co.uk/Products/740.jpg

nektar · 27 August 2009, 09:46 AM

i love and motorbikes..but my gf cannot seperate a cbr from a zx14.. this is like rolexes..you just need a little bit of practice!

6 November 2008, 11:53 AM	#1
ot180 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Tampa,FL Posts: 40	They all look the same to me Not to offend anyone, but I am not seeing the difference (besides colors). The Submariner, GMT, and Sea dweller all look very similar to the untrained eye. The dd, datejust, and daytona look very different of course, but I'm just not seeing the differences in the sports models. Can someone tip me off... BTW: Just recently bitten by the bug so I'm taking in all I can. Amazing forum y'all....but a bit addictive

6 November 2008, 11:56 AM	#2
mfer "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Real Name: Mik Location: USA Posts: 13,724	Look pretty different to me. __________________ member#3242

6 November 2008, 12:02 PM	#3
Incurable "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Real Name: Pat Location: PNW Watch: your P's and Q's Posts: 2,549	Oh, they're different all right... You're probably keying in on the case, bracelet and even bezel too much. The 40mm 'sports' watches share the same 'look' to the case although there are differences. The oyster bracelet looks the same also, even though they are unique and carry different part numbers. The bezel is, again, different but similar. I forgot the dial, they could look the same as well. I would suggest you read up (here of course) a bit on the Sub, GMT and SD and you'll soon know and see the difference readily. Maybe Mike can chime in with a good comparison pic to see for yourself... Welcome and enjoy your stay __________________ Rolex GMT Master II 16710 (Blk/Blk) Rolex Explorer 114270 Sinn 356 Sa Flieger Limes Endurance 1Tausend Too many others... #2592 It may seem like I'm doing nothing but, at a cellular level, I'm actually quite busy...

6 November 2008, 12:27 PM	#6
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,514	You need practice.. Of course they all do look like Invictas to me............. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

6 November 2008, 03:04 PM	#9
GBJIV "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: Jackson Location: So. California Posts: 2,893	Hmmm, That's what my wife says about my watches also. __________________ Jackson

6 November 2008, 12:02 PM	#4
carbon6 Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 135	The numbers on the bezel and the hour markers on the dial are different sized.

6 November 2008, 12:04 PM	#5
Brunotheboxer Banned Join Date: Mar 2008 Real Name: Bruno Location: Boston/Cape Cod Watch: 16610,PAM. 111, G Posts: 7,608	If you read the threads and keep looking at the pics you will soon see what you are missing.

6 November 2008, 01:25 PM	#7
cody p "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Canada Watch: Air-King 114200 Posts: 2,878	you are not alone.

6 November 2008, 02:12 PM	#8
limbo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sydney Posts: 4,624	Same same, but different Seriously, they are different - Bezel, cyclops, case, dial...

6 November 2008, 03:22 PM	#11
Andad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,526	I needed one of each so I could tell the difference. __________________ E

6 November 2008, 03:26 PM	#12
lorsban "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Philippines Posts: 1,199	Yeah, the the GMT/Sub/SD are all similarly styled if not for minor differences. I mean, show it to any non-rolexer and they'll say it's the same watch. I actually mistook my friend's TT GMT for a TTSub a few years back. I mean, everything's the same between the two except for the gmt hand and 24hour markings. Explorers/yachtmasters/daytonas are all pretty distinct, though. No way you'd confuse those for anything else.

6 November 2008, 06:26 PM	#13
Singslinger "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: singapore Posts: 6,424	It's brilliant in its simplicity - come up with a basic design that has mass appeal, then tweak it slightly for different models while ensuring that the core design stays intact. In short, if it ain't broke, why fix it? What's interesting to me is that even when that basic, tried and trusted appearance is closely adhered to, too much of a variation in size sometimes draws howls of criticism from the purists - recall for example, the ongoing controversy over the recently-launched Deep Sea in this forum.

6 November 2008, 09:58 PM	#16
ronin7 Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: bucks uk Watch: green submariner Posts: 424	BLASPHEMY

6 November 2008, 10:56 PM	#17
CPTL "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Kevin Location: Texas on my mind Watch: Sub Date; SS/WG DJ Posts: 2,445	That's why you should get an Explorer-II! __________________ 16610 Submariner Date; D Serial 16234 DateJust SS with WG Fluted Bezel & Jubillee, White Roman Dial; F Serial 16570 Explorer II White Dial; M Serial And Hers: 78240 Mid-Size DateJust SS with Domed Bezel & Oyster, White Roman; D Serial

6 November 2008, 11:00 PM	#18
Quicksilver "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: David Location: London+Guangzhou Watch: ing watches Posts: 2,603	To the untrained eye they do look similar. The Sub, GMT and DSD are all a variation on a theme. However, stick around a bit and you well quickly see the difference. __________________ Rolex Sea Dweller 116600, GMT Master II 16710 (Pepsi) and 116710 BLNR, Daytona 116500LN, Submariner 14060M.

6 November 2008, 11:20 PM	#20
marshallr47 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Real Name: Ron Location: Alabama Watch: Daytona,TT Sub,GMT Posts: 4,673	They are all different in their own special way. __________________ Ron

7 November 2008, 01:04 AM	#22
sirjohnbrian "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: PA Watch: 'chu lookin' at??? Posts: 964	You actually need to see more to pick them out. Beware, the more you see, the greater the likelihood of being sucked in... __________________ "Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society." Mark Twain "Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true." Homer Simpson SS Midsize DJ 68274 "L" TT Jubilee DJ 116233 "Z" Sea Dweller DS 116660 "V" SS White Dial Daytona "V"

27 August 2009, 07:31 AM	#24
ot180 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Tampa,FL Posts: 40	Now I get it.... You have to try one on to understand!

27 August 2009, 07:35 AM	#25
RedBaronF2001 Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 575	My wife, too, thinks that I'm crazy for wanting a GMT IIc since it "looks similar to my Sea-Dweller." It takes a WIS to appreciate the differences between models and between the years.

27 August 2009, 07:37 AM	#26
bodybump ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ 2024 SubLV41 Sponsor & Boutique Seller Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Oscar Location: Florida Watch: Me!!! Posts: 23,233	thats why you gusy need to buy different insert colors..heheheh __________________

27 August 2009, 07:37 AM	#27
Omega_Precision Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Henry Location: CA, US Watch: ing basketball Posts: 2,977	They make look similar to someone not familiar with the brand but each watch behaves differently or designed to function differently.

27 August 2009, 07:55 AM	#28
jeangtd "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Colombia Posts: 427	DITTO (everyone thats looks at my watch box) __________________ Pepsi GMT Master II (Z series)Sub 14060M COSC (M series) Platinum yatchmaster (random) JLC Master Compressor Chrono Sub-C (random) Sub C bluessy (random) IWC big pilot

27 August 2009, 08:15 AM	#29
plat-numb Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: TN Posts: 47	Mine looks different. http://www.armourwinston.co.uk/Products/740.jpg

27 August 2009, 09:46 AM	#30
nektar "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Louisiana Watch: 114060 Posts: 1,678	i love and motorbikes..but my gf cannot seperate a cbr from a zx14.. this is like rolexes..you just need a little bit of practice!

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