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emkwan · 31 October 2017, 04:57 PM

Hi forum!

Hope and trust you are well. I needed some advice on a potential new buy. I've recently developed a liking to steel and gold - two tone.

Im looking at a watch I've found. Reliable seller but comes with no box or papers. keeping good time. A DateJust 160XX with a custom non original strap (leather) but more importantly a Black Onyx Dial. I like the dial a great deal but wonder if it's actually worth buying since it's not original to the watch.

The other option is to use that money and get a Tudor BlackBay Dark or even a S&G tho ideally I don't want to spend more money.

Any advice? Thinking down the line if I ever need to sell etc.

KenNethcole · 31 October 2017, 05:09 PM

I personally wouldn’t get any watch with aftermarket dial. I do like the look of that black onyx dial but no hour markers would make me go crazy.

HogwldFLTR · 31 October 2017, 05:14 PM

Buy a Movado Museum...

crowncollection · 31 October 2017, 05:23 PM

Buy what you like I always say,as long as the price reflects what you are buying.

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emkwan · 31 October 2017, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by crowncollection

Buy what you like I always say,as long as the price reflects what you are buying.

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That's my usual principle though I don't want to get something that I may loose a great deal of value on in the future if I sell.

emkwan · 31 October 2017, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by KenNethcole

I personally wouldn’t get any watch with aftermarket dial. I do like the look of that black onyx dial but no hour markers would make me go crazy.

Does the aftermarket dial really effect the resale value down the line?

crowncollection · 31 October 2017, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by emkwan

That's my usual principle though I don't want to get something that I may loose a great deal of value on in the future if I sell.

I really don’t see a great loss as long as you pay for a 16000 series watch in a strap.

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Rocket_Man · 31 October 2017, 05:34 PM

That watch without the bracelet and aftermarket dial should be pretty cheap... relatively. It should be priced accordingly. If you buy it right you shouldn't loose much if you sell it on. So if you like it, buy it. If you sell it and don't get what you paid, chalk it up as the cost of enjoying the watch.

nguyenquangdung · 31 October 2017, 05:46 PM

say no, please

emkwan · 31 October 2017, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rocket_Man

That watch without the bracelet and aftermarket dial should be pretty cheap... relatively. It should be priced accordingly. If you buy it right you shouldn't loose much if you sell it on. So if you like it, buy it. If you sell it and don't get what you paid, chalk it up as the cost of enjoying the watch.

Buyer wants around the $3'400 mark. High considering non - original dial.

emkwan · 31 October 2017, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by nguyenquangdung

say no, please

lol you really don't like it lol

tommy91 · 31 October 2017, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by emkwan

Buyer wants around the $3'400 mark. High considering non - original dial.

Way too much

MonBK · 31 October 2017, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emkwan

Buyer wants around the $3'400 mark. High considering non - original dial.

Quote:

Originally Posted by emkwan

lol you really don't like it lol

I like it but priced way too high.

Rocket_Man · 31 October 2017, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by emkwan

Buyer wants around the $3'400 mark. High considering non - original dial.

No way. No box, no papers, no bracelet, no dial.... who knows when it was serviced. Offer him $1,200. Probably the best offer he's had.

So actually that dial may be authentic. But maybe not original to that head.

matthewbell · 31 October 2017, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by emkwan

Buyer wants around the $3'400 mark. High considering non - original dial.

$3,400 sounds incredibly high to me too. I reckon something nearer $2,000 would be fairer, considering the after-market intervention. If you paid anywhere $3,000 for that watch you'd stand a massive risk of losing a heap of cash when you flipped it on.

1William · 31 October 2017, 08:30 PM

I would not. No box, no papers, no bracelet, no original dial, no deal. Save yourself some time and money and find something that works better.

Boothy84 · 31 October 2017, 08:37 PM

Not keen on the dial at all, you may as well buy a replica as far as I'm concerned. To top it off no box or papers either, not for me. No offence!

Maiden · 31 October 2017, 08:53 PM

Priced WAY to high.

Syed117 · 31 October 2017, 09:21 PM

If that was an original Rolex dial that someone modified, maybe.

If that's a dial that someone else made and slapped the word Rolex on, it's not aftermarket, it's counterfeit.

That price is ridiculous.

watchwatcher · 1 November 2017, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by HogwldFLTR

Buy a Movado Museum...

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1William

I would not. No box, no papers, no bracelet, no original dial, no deal. Save yourself some time and money and find something that works better.

Exactly. I would give the Tudor S&G a look at that price point.

Tangier11 · 1 November 2017, 12:54 AM

I am on the NO list for anything non Rolex. It just kinda ruins it for me, but to each his own..

N_Architect · 1 November 2017, 12:59 AM

There are so many other similar Rolex pieces out there in the market.
This one has no papers, it carries a non-factory dial, and is priced high.
Why would you rush to buy?

Be patient and the right watch will come to you at the right time.

Many times we forget this because we think that if we pass on a piece there will be none like it further down the road.

Chewbacca · 1 November 2017, 01:02 AM

i'd buy a Jocke push, pull or drag special as a donor and mod it myself with OEM parts.

can be done for less than the quoted price and any DJ from the 60's can be used.

you can always get a BBY line watch. be creative with this exercise.

droptopman · 1 November 2017, 01:10 AM

Price way too high, like 2K overpriced. That case has seen some action on the polishing wheel as well. Definitely pass on this one. If you like the look, take CJ's advice above.

You can acquire a nice case set and put in a onyx dial pretty easily for less money and it will be a much nicer watch.

ras47 · 1 November 2017, 04:09 AM

The bracelet and original dial will set you back $2000-$2500. Keep that in mind when pricing this watch.

DavidUK · 1 November 2017, 04:14 AM

You'll struggle to sell it on too.

I'd pass.

Fleetlord · 1 November 2017, 04:39 AM

Absolutely not.

Ruined

FeelingTheBlues · 1 November 2017, 04:42 AM

On top of the high price and hard time selling it back (forget about the price, even if you allow yourself a rather small loss if you negotiate it well you will probably have to be really patient if you want to find another buyer), servicing it will make you depend on an independent watchmaker for Rolex will not touch it.

rmlovett1 · 1 November 2017, 04:48 AM

Not for that price.....no way.

SWISSAHOLICS · 1 November 2017, 05:40 AM

Too high

31 October 2017, 04:57 PM	#1
emkwan Banned Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Abu Dhabi - Dubai Watch: Rolex 116710 BLNR Posts: 375	Should I? DateJust With Custom Non Factory Dial Hi forum! Hope and trust you are well. I needed some advice on a potential new buy. I've recently developed a liking to steel and gold - two tone. Im looking at a watch I've found. Reliable seller but comes with no box or papers. keeping good time. A DateJust 160XX with a custom non original strap (leather) but more importantly a Black Onyx Dial. I like the dial a great deal but wonder if it's actually worth buying since it's not original to the watch. The other option is to use that money and get a Tudor BlackBay Dark or even a S&G tho ideally I don't want to spend more money. Any advice? Thinking down the line if I ever need to sell etc.

31 October 2017, 05:14 PM	#3
HogwldFLTR 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Real Name: Lee Location: 42.48.45N70.48.48 Watch: Too many to list! Posts: 33,674	Buy a Movado Museum... __________________ Troglodyte in residence! https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=808599

31 October 2017, 05:23 PM	#4
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,216	Buy what you like I always say,as long as the price reflects what you are buying. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ watches many

31 October 2017, 08:53 PM	#18
Maiden "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Canada Posts: 3,652	Priced WAY to high. __________________ Rolex 116613LN Rolex 16610LN Omega Seamaster Aqua Terra 41mm Omega Geneve Tag Heuer Aquaracer WAY2112 Orient Ray 2

31 October 2017, 09:21 PM	#19
Syed117 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Real Name: Syed Location: The Ether Posts: 3,388	If that was an original Rolex dial that someone modified, maybe. If that's a dial that someone else made and slapped the word Rolex on, it's not aftermarket, it's counterfeit. That price is ridiculous. __________________ Rolex Datejust 41 126334 \| Omega Speedmaster Professional Hesalite \| Cartier Santos Large \| Tudor Black Bay 58

31 October 2017, 05:09 PM	#2
KenNethcole "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Socal Posts: 861	I personally wouldn’t get any watch with aftermarket dial. I do like the look of that black onyx dial but no hour markers would make me go crazy.

31 October 2017, 05:34 PM	#8
Rocket_Man "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Houston TX Posts: 1,332	That watch without the bracelet and aftermarket dial should be pretty cheap... relatively. It should be priced accordingly. If you buy it right you shouldn't loose much if you sell it on. So if you like it, buy it. If you sell it and don't get what you paid, chalk it up as the cost of enjoying the watch.

31 October 2017, 05:46 PM	#9
nguyenquangdung "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: vietnam Posts: 35	say no, please

31 October 2017, 08:30 PM	#16
1William 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: North Carolina Watch: Rolex/Others Posts: 47,676	I would not. No box, no papers, no bracelet, no original dial, no deal. Save yourself some time and money and find something that works better.

31 October 2017, 08:37 PM	#17
Boothy84 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Real Name: James Location: UK Watch: 116710 BLNR, DJ Posts: 210	Not keen on the dial at all, you may as well buy a replica as far as I'm concerned. To top it off no box or papers either, not for me. No offence!

1 November 2017, 12:54 AM	#21
Tangier11 Banned Join Date: Sep 2017 Real Name: Paul Location: Southern Virginia Watch: ROLEX Posts: 2,544	I am on the NO list for anything non Rolex. It just kinda ruins it for me, but to each his own..

1 November 2017, 12:59 AM	#22
N_Architect "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: Kons Location: ATH Watch: DD40 Posts: 473	There are so many other similar Rolex pieces out there in the market. This one has no papers, it carries a non-factory dial, and is priced high. Why would you rush to buy? Be patient and the right watch will come to you at the right time. Many times we forget this because we think that if we pass on a piece there will be none like it further down the road. __________________ Travel, See, Feel, Explore.

1 November 2017, 01:02 AM	#23
Chewbacca Banned Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: CJ Location: Kashyyyk Watch: Kessel Run Chrono Posts: 21,112	i'd buy a Jocke push, pull or drag special as a donor and mod it myself with OEM parts. can be done for less than the quoted price and any DJ from the 60's can be used. you can always get a BBY line watch. be creative with this exercise.

1 November 2017, 01:10 AM	#24
droptopman "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Real Name: Mark Location: Washington State Watch: SUBS and GMT's! Posts: 9,664	Price way too high, like 2K overpriced. That case has seen some action on the polishing wheel as well. Definitely pass on this one. If you like the look, take CJ's advice above. You can acquire a nice case set and put in a onyx dial pretty easily for less money and it will be a much nicer watch. __________________ Judge Smails: Ty, what did you shoot today? Ty: Oh, Judge, I don't keep score. Judge Smails: Then how do you measure yourself with other golfers? Ty: By height.

1 November 2017, 04:09 AM	#25
ras47 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Real Name: Robert Location: Northern NJ Watch: 16710 BLRO Posts: 3,064	The bracelet and original dial will set you back $2000-$2500. Keep that in mind when pricing this watch. __________________ Rolex GMT Master II BLRO 16710 Omega Speedmaster Co-Axial Chrono

1 November 2017, 04:14 AM	#26
DavidUK "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Leicestershire UK Posts: 697	You'll struggle to sell it on too. I'd pass.

1 November 2017, 04:39 AM	#27
Fleetlord 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Vain Posts: 6,014	Absolutely not. Ruined

1 November 2017, 04:42 AM	#28
FeelingTheBlues "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: Carl Location: Always moving Watch: If you wish... Posts: 22,039	On top of the high price and hard time selling it back (forget about the price, even if you allow yourself a rather small loss if you negotiate it well you will probably have to be really patient if you want to find another buyer), servicing it will make you depend on an independent watchmaker for Rolex will not touch it. __________________ Mon corps c'est un pays en guerre sur l'point d'finir, Le général de l'armée de terre s'attend au pire, J'ai faim, j'ai frette, je suis trop faible pour me lever debout, On va hisser le drapeau blanc un point c'est tout. - André Fortin

1 November 2017, 04:48 AM	#29
rmlovett1 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Richard Location: GA Watch: YTBD Posts: 23,479	Not for that price.....no way.

1 November 2017, 05:40 AM	#30
SWISSAHOLICS "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Here! Watch: Rolex Posts: 4,366	Too high __________________ 16610LN \| 16613LB \| 16710 Pepsi \| 118238 \| 116500 (White) \| 116500 (Black) \| 116710BLNR \| 116610LV "The one thing I fear most is time; time waits for no one and leaves no options."

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