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ajshiner69 · 26 November 2017, 02:37 PM

Hello people. I'm more than a bit embarrassed, and this is my first post to boot.

I think I just got burned on a CL buy. It's supposedly a Daytona but I think I got taken. Back face, silver subdials. But subdial at 9 o'clock position has days of the week. Hmm. A bit of cursory research says it shouldnt have that. I took it home, took off bracelet... and there's no reference # or serial # between lugs. I trued to post pics but apparently photos from my iphone are too big and I have too resize...sigh.

Old Expat Beast · 26 November 2017, 03:07 PM

No need to post pics. The watch is fake.

ajshiner69 · 26 November 2017, 03:14 PM

A sincere "Thank You" for your quick response. Now I gotta go find this guy.

Cryten · 26 November 2017, 09:24 PM

You have what we call a "DateTona" where the subdials are date indicators. They are low end and wholly unconvincing fakes.

I hope you didn't spend too much on it.

brandrea · 26 November 2017, 11:05 PM

Welcome and sorry to hear. Hope you can get your money back.

ajshiner69 · 27 November 2017, 12:00 AM

$600, peeps. I fell for a good story from an honest looking guy.

The CL ad is still up! In Albany, NY, A Daytona for $600.

mjclark32 · 27 November 2017, 12:16 AM

$600 is, obviously way too cheap, even $6,000 sets off red flags...

ajshiner69 · 27 November 2017, 12:18 AM

Yep, thought I had stumbled across an exceptionally good deal. I was wrong. My bad.

ajshiner69 · 27 November 2017, 12:21 AM

New to the game, here.

eelpie · 27 November 2017, 12:59 AM

It will help law enforcement when you go after the guy . . .

Do not flag or report the ad(s) to craigslist 'cause you don't want him to know you're onto him.

Call the cops and ask them to see if he has a second watch to go along with his second ad.

DO NOT TIP YOUR HAND 'CAUSE HE'LL RUN LIKE A RABBIT!

ajshiner69 · 27 November 2017, 01:05 AM

Done, thx, I'm going to go after him. Will let you all know the outcome.

eelpie · 27 November 2017, 01:25 AM

Greed to make another deal would get him out of his hole, and into a meet with a plainclothes cop.

cwieb · 27 November 2017, 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eelpie

It will help law enforcement when you go after the guy . . .

Do not flag or report the ad(s) to craigslist 'cause you don't want him to know you're onto him.

Call the cops and ask them to see if he has a second watch to go along with his second ad.

DO NOT TIP YOUR HAND 'CAUSE HE'LL RUN LIKE A RABBIT!

There is nothing that the law enforcement will do. The OP purchased a fake watch and now he owns a fake watch. I do apologize, but the OP's only hope of getting his money back will be directly from the seller which I doubt will be too likely.

eelpie · 27 November 2017, 02:18 AM

"Rolex Daytona great condition. - $600

I don't know much about this watch as far as what it's worth, it looks pretty much like new, it's probably around 1000-2000 brand new.. It's in excellent working condition, beautiful, and clean. I'm really not that into wearing wrist watches, I normally use my cell phone to tell the time when needed. It was given to me by someone who recently passed away. No scam artist please, I will not take a fake check only cash in person.

all or text only emails will not be answered."

The OP purchased a Rolex Daytona, based on the ad. That the watch is fake is due to fraud by the seller.

The purchaser certainly has recourse through the legal system whether the seller misrepresented the watch purposely or not.

If the coppers set up a sting to buy a second watch (if a second watch were to exist), then the seller could claim ignorance and make restitution to the OP.

Otherwise, the only recourse is to set up a meeting through a friend, and to take along a .45, but that opens up a plethora of potential problems . . .

ajshiner69 · 27 November 2017, 02:40 AM

Seller also told me multliple times: "I know for sure it is real."

BarryR · 27 November 2017, 02:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eelpie

Otherwise, the only recourse is to set up a meeting through a friend, and to take along a .45, but that opens up a plethora of potential problems . . .

Look where it got O.J.

teqp · 27 November 2017, 03:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajshiner69

A bit of cursory research says it shouldnt have that.

Why wouldn't you do your research before handing someone $600 for a fake watch?

ajshiner69 · 27 November 2017, 05:06 AM

I thought I had, Phil. I read about font and spacing and dial appearance, length of minute ad hour hands. But I f'ed up, for sure.

You ever make a mistake, Phil?

TheRolexKingofLV · 27 November 2017, 05:10 AM

Sorry to hear about your situation...I hope you can somehow get your money back

Tony64 · 27 November 2017, 05:38 AM

If you honestly thought you were getting an authentic Daytona for $600 then you must have known you would have been taking advantage of a seller's ignorance or desperation.

As it was, the seller took advantage of you.

I'm sorry for your situation and sincerely hope it gets resolved in your favor, but it's bad karma all around.

Just my 2 cents.

ajshiner69 · 27 November 2017, 06:13 AM

[QUOTE=Tony64;8068816]If you honestly thought you were getting an authentic Daytona for $600 then you must have known you would have been taking advantage of a seller's ignorance or desperation.

As it was, the seller took advantage of you.

I'm sorry for your situation and sincerely hope it gets resolved in your favor, but it's bad karma all around.

Just my 2 cents.

i think that's a fair point, Tony, and I'll take it

Tony64 · 27 November 2017, 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajshiner69

i think that's a fair point, Tony, and I'll take it

Don't beat yourself up over it. At least you found this forum, and you'll not only learn more than you ever cared to know about Rolex, but you may even find your desired watch at a significant savings.

Consider the $600 spent on education, but I predict you'll make that back in savings when you purchase from one of our "trusted sellers".

Good luck, and welcome.

MonBK · 27 November 2017, 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajshiner69

I thought I had, Phil. I read about font and spacing and dial appearance, length of minute ad hour hands. But I f'ed up, for sure.

You ever make a mistake, Phil?

You didn't read up about prices on Daytona?

ajshiner69 · 27 November 2017, 06:46 AM

Thx Tony I appreciate it. $600 education:-)

ajshiner69 · 27 November 2017, 06:52 AM

Here's the CL ad, if anyone's curious:

https://albany.craigslist.org/jwl/d/...395700639.html

jimcameron · 27 November 2017, 07:07 AM

I bet you were just trying to help the guy out. Instead he helped you out.

Karma is a funny thing.

Onikage · 27 November 2017, 07:10 AM

Astonishing how people will throw $600 bucks around and hope for the best. The ad is textbook typical someone trying to offload their POS fake - 'I don't know anything about watches, yet I have a Rolex Daytona. Here are some pictures with the requisite blurriness so the incorrect subdials can't be made out."

teqp · 27 November 2017, 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajshiner69

I thought I had, Phil. I read about font and spacing and dial appearance, length of minute ad hour hands. But I f'ed up, for sure.

You ever make a mistake, Phil?

We all make mistakes. That ad has scam written all over it. If it were a real Daytona the guy could’ve pawned it for for 3-4K easily.

Onikage · 27 November 2017, 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajshiner69

I thought I had, Phil. I read about font and spacing and dial appearance, length of minute ad hour hands. But I f'ed up, for sure.

You ever make a mistake, Phil?

Yeah sorry dude. I just properly read the thread. What appears glaringly obvious to the folks here may not be apparent to a newb. Good lesson learnt at least.

ajshiner69 · 27 November 2017, 07:40 AM

Y'all are spot on when you say I tried to help him out... but then the reverse was true! Guilty as charged.:-)

26 November 2017, 02:37 PM	#1
ajshiner69 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: suburbs of NYC Watch: '17 Subb 116610LN Posts: 39	First time poster and new member... please help Hello people. I'm more than a bit embarrassed, and this is my first post to boot. I think I just got burned on a CL buy. It's supposedly a Daytona but I think I got taken. Back face, silver subdials. But subdial at 9 o'clock position has days of the week. Hmm. A bit of cursory research says it shouldnt have that. I took it home, took off bracelet... and there's no reference # or serial # between lugs. I trued to post pics but apparently photos from my iphone are too big and I have too resize...sigh.

26 November 2017, 03:14 PM	#3
ajshiner69 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: suburbs of NYC Watch: '17 Subb 116610LN Posts: 39	Damn. A sincere "Thank You" for your quick response. Now I gotta go find this guy.

27 November 2017, 12:16 AM	#7
mjclark32 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: MJC Location: PHL USA Watch: IWC, Rolex, AP Posts: 29,232	$600 is, obviously way too cheap, even $6,000 sets off red flags... __________________

27 November 2017, 12:59 AM	#10
eelpie "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: USA Watch: 15223, 6305/2 Posts: 583	Get a screen capture of the ad!! It will help law enforcement when you go after the guy . . . Do not flag or report the ad(s) to craigslist 'cause you don't want him to know you're onto him. Call the cops and ask them to see if he has a second watch to go along with his second ad. DO NOT TIP YOUR HAND 'CAUSE HE'LL RUN LIKE A RABBIT!

27 November 2017, 01:25 AM	#12
eelpie "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: USA Watch: 15223, 6305/2 Posts: 583	You should pray he has another one . . . Greed to make another deal would get him out of his hole, and into a meet with a plainclothes cop.

26 November 2017, 03:07 PM	#2
Old Expat Beast TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Adam Location: Far East Watch: Golden Tuna Posts: 28,825	No need to post pics. The watch is fake.

26 November 2017, 09:24 PM	#4
Cryten "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Terrafirma Posts: 2,655	You have what we call a "DateTona" where the subdials are date indicators. They are low end and wholly unconvincing fakes. I hope you didn't spend too much on it.

26 November 2017, 11:05 PM	#5
brandrea 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 78,089	Welcome and sorry to hear. Hope you can get your money back.

27 November 2017, 12:00 AM	#6
ajshiner69 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: suburbs of NYC Watch: '17 Subb 116610LN Posts: 39	$600, peeps. I fell for a good story from an honest looking guy. The CL ad is still up! In Albany, NY, A Daytona for $600.

27 November 2017, 12:18 AM	#8
ajshiner69 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: suburbs of NYC Watch: '17 Subb 116610LN Posts: 39	Yep, thought I had stumbled across an exceptionally good deal. I was wrong. My bad.

27 November 2017, 12:21 AM	#9
ajshiner69 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: suburbs of NYC Watch: '17 Subb 116610LN Posts: 39	New to the game, here.

27 November 2017, 01:05 AM	#11
ajshiner69 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: suburbs of NYC Watch: '17 Subb 116610LN Posts: 39	Done, thx, I'm going to go after him. Will let you all know the outcome.

27 November 2017, 02:18 AM	#14
eelpie "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: USA Watch: 15223, 6305/2 Posts: 583	Actually, the ad reads . . . "Rolex Daytona great condition. - $600 I don't know much about this watch as far as what it's worth, it looks pretty much like new, it's probably around 1000-2000 brand new.. It's in excellent working condition, beautiful, and clean. I'm really not that into wearing wrist watches, I normally use my cell phone to tell the time when needed. It was given to me by someone who recently passed away. No scam artist please, I will not take a fake check only cash in person. all or text only emails will not be answered." The OP purchased a Rolex Daytona, based on the ad. That the watch is fake is due to fraud by the seller. The purchaser certainly has recourse through the legal system whether the seller misrepresented the watch purposely or not. If the coppers set up a sting to buy a second watch (if a second watch were to exist), then the seller could claim ignorance and make restitution to the OP. Otherwise, the only recourse is to set up a meeting through a friend, and to take along a .45, but that opens up a plethora of potential problems . . .

27 November 2017, 02:40 AM	#15
ajshiner69 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: suburbs of NYC Watch: '17 Subb 116610LN Posts: 39	Seller also told me multliple times: "I know for sure it is real."

27 November 2017, 05:06 AM	#18
ajshiner69 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: suburbs of NYC Watch: '17 Subb 116610LN Posts: 39	I thought I had, Phil. I read about font and spacing and dial appearance, length of minute ad hour hands. But I f'ed up, for sure. You ever make a mistake, Phil?

27 November 2017, 05:10 AM	#19
TheRolexKingofLV "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Real Name: Trace Location: Vegas/Bay Area Posts: 9,234	Sorry to hear about your situation...I hope you can somehow get your money back __________________ Official Host "The Penthouse Party" Las Vegas 2018 Instagram @tracenunes

27 November 2017, 05:38 AM	#20
Tony64 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 2,796	If you honestly thought you were getting an authentic Daytona for $600 then you must have known you would have been taking advantage of a seller's ignorance or desperation. As it was, the seller took advantage of you. I'm sorry for your situation and sincerely hope it gets resolved in your favor, but it's bad karma all around. Just my 2 cents.

27 November 2017, 06:13 AM	#21
ajshiner69 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: suburbs of NYC Watch: '17 Subb 116610LN Posts: 39	[QUOTE=Tony64;8068816]If you honestly thought you were getting an authentic Daytona for $600 then you must have known you would have been taking advantage of a seller's ignorance or desperation. As it was, the seller took advantage of you. I'm sorry for your situation and sincerely hope it gets resolved in your favor, but it's bad karma all around. Just my 2 cents. i think that's a fair point, Tony, and I'll take it

27 November 2017, 06:46 AM	#24
ajshiner69 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: suburbs of NYC Watch: '17 Subb 116610LN Posts: 39	Thx Tony I appreciate it. $600 education:-)

27 November 2017, 06:52 AM	#25
ajshiner69 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: suburbs of NYC Watch: '17 Subb 116610LN Posts: 39	Here's the CL ad, if anyone's curious: https://albany.craigslist.org/jwl/d/...395700639.html

27 November 2017, 07:07 AM	#26
jimcameron "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: ByDawns Earlylite Watch: 16800 Posts: 3,580	I bet you were just trying to help the guy out. Instead he helped you out. Karma is a funny thing.

27 November 2017, 07:10 AM	#27
Onikage "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: England Watch: 16710, 16628 Posts: 7,757	Astonishing how people will throw $600 bucks around and hope for the best. The ad is textbook typical someone trying to offload their POS fake - 'I don't know anything about watches, yet I have a Rolex Daytona. Here are some pictures with the requisite blurriness so the incorrect subdials can't be made out." __________________ GMT II 16710 TRADITIONAL ( D- Serial #) ROLEXFANBOY P-Club Member #4

27 November 2017, 07:40 AM	#30
ajshiner69 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: suburbs of NYC Watch: '17 Subb 116610LN Posts: 39	Y'all are spot on when you say I tried to help him out... but then the reverse was true! Guilty as charged.:-)

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