I am so proud of being a SUB owner

[jeangtd]

I was just watching footage of Che Guevara in discovery civilization, where he was visiting factories and such during the cuban revolution and he was always wearing a Sub Date, I mean what is a socialist doing wearing a rolex right? I am proud because I guess he is not wearing it as a luxury item, he is wearing it because it's the most relaiable time piece he could have, right? anyways its really nice to see footage of him in his uniform bossing around with his sub on the wrist

[jeangtd]

They just show'd fidel and Che guevara walking around town with thousand's of followers behind them, and both were wearing Sub dates, do you think they bought them together ?

[cameron]

Probably did the typical socialist wealth redistribution thing and stole them of someone else.

[Randy Marsh]

Originally Posted by cameron

Probably did the typical socialist wealth redistribution thing and stole them of someone else.

[jeangtd]

I believe there was a pic in the fourm of Castro making plans to invade cube where he was wearing his Sub date, maybe it was before, maybe after, who knows.

[dkpw]

I think there may be some confusion over the term "socialist" when "communist" would be more suitable.

Anyway this is a watch forum, so why not leave the political analyses and comments for a more appropriate setting?

[KenrickJ]

Right let's not get into a debate :)

[mike]

Originally Posted by dkpw

I think there may be some confusion over the term "socialist" when "communist" would be more suitable.

Anyway this is a watch forum, so why not leave the political analyses and comments for a more appropriate setting?

Well said David. This IS a watch forum. This topic has been brought up before with sad results.

Rolex has a long history with people from all walks of life. I have no problem with a discussion of the history of the brand. As soon as it becomes political it's done.

[juleso]

I think there is a picture of Castro wearing a President Daydate and the Sub Date on the same wrist!Does that mean come the revolution we'll all be wearing two Rolex???

[toph]

Originally Posted by cameron

Probably did the typical socialist wealth redistribution thing and stole them of someone else.

and remember they stole them for the benefit of others

[akhamdani]

Originally Posted by toph

and remember they stole them for the benefit of others

[Armand]

Remembers me of old people telling that after invading the western parts of Europe in WW II Russian soldiers often would carry several wristwatches!

"Liberated" of course ...

H

[georgios]

If you carefully examine Che's fotos you can see that Commandante used to wear a gmt with black bezel and not a sub.

[f16570]

Good watch taste transcends all political walks.

[GBJIV]

The Sub is a great watch independent of who wears them.

[watchnut]

Originally Posted by GBJIV

The Sub is a great watch independent of who wears them.

Exactly! How someone comes up with the money for one is irrelevent. I personally had to liberate the funds from my wife's grocery budget. I not only got the watch, but lost a bit of weight!

[akhamdani]

Originally Posted by georgios

If you carefully examine Che's fotos you can see that Commandante used to wear a gmt with black bezel and not a sub.

Yes.As I know he was used to wear GMT.

[Time Traveller]

Originally Posted by georgios

If you carefully examine Che's fotos you can see that Commandante used to wear a gmt with black bezel and not a sub.

Originally Posted by akhamdani

Yes.As I know he was used to wear GMT.

I agree.

[mretzloff]

Why does it matter who the guy is? Jeeze...The point is he wears a Rolex.

And David, he's not a communist. True communism is unattainable.

[Armand]

Originally Posted by georgios

If you carefully examine Che's fotos you can see that Commandante used to wear a gmt with black bezel and not a sub.

I BET the 24 hour hand was set at Moscow time!

;-)

Hermann

[Quicksilver]

Sub or GMT, doesn't matter - the point is he wore a Professional Line Rolex - the chosen watch of any self respecting revolutionary.

[dkpw]

Originally Posted by mretzloff

And David, he's not a communist. True communism is unattainable.

I may well agree with you, and then again I may not. Here is not the place to discuss it. All I will say is thanks to QuickSilver for some interesting pics of Che with his cigars and Rolex.

Neither of which are that unusual in the hands of a middle-class medical graduate.

[cameron]

The next time that a dictator/revolutionary decides that they know best - that they know how best to decide how income/wealth should be distributed the first thing that will spring to my mind is "well the guy was wearing a good watch at the time". What next - a day date with a Fuhrer bracelet ? If this comment bans me from the forum then so be it. I`ve read many posts about how people defend their property/rights/families/etc. Refer to the posts about pocket dumps and the guns/knives displayed and threats implied to robbers. If we can not defend our persons/property/liberty then what chance have we of living a decent life ?

[Denny M]

Originally Posted by Quicksilver

Sub or GMT, doesn't matter - the point is he wore a Professional Line Rolex - the chosen watch of any self respecting revolutionary.

Interesting pics David. Wondering if these have these been officially authenticated as genuine pics? In other words not manipulated in any way.

I have a young idealistic mate that idolises Che and the concept of communism (although he is from a very wealthy family) and despises Rolex watches, i'm going to email these to him. Can't wait to see what he says lol!

Also any pics of Fidel with his Rollie?

[MACRAME QUEENS]

Frankly, I am ashamed that I wear the same watch as this guy. In much the same way that I am not proud to wear the same brand as Saddam Hussein.

[Nica64]

I'm a proud owner of a Sub!! because I bust my ass off to get one...
not because this guy (Che) wears one, I wear a Rolex because I like them not
because this guy or that guy have one.

[CH & USA]

Originally Posted by Armand

I BET the 24 hour hand was set at Moscow time!

;-)

Hermann

Correct-amundo!

[CH & USA]

Originally Posted by cameron

The next time that a dictator/revolutionary decides that they know best - that they know how best to decide how income/wealth should be distributed the first thing that will spring to my mind is "well the guy was wearing a good watch at the time". What next - a day date with a Fuhrer bracelet ? If this comment bans me from the forum then so be it. I`ve read many posts about how people defend their property/rights/families/etc. Refer to the posts about pocket dumps and the guns/knives displayed and threats implied to robbers. If we can not defend our persons/property/liberty then what chance have we of living a decent life ?

Easy Mate... have a break! The topic obviously touched a sensible chord for you and I very much doubt anybody meant to... I think folks are just trying to talk about watches and keeping it light... in that spirit, I want to share that I'm considering transforming into a piece of Gouda... I'm just feeling awful to have a pulse, eyes, a brain,... you know just like all'em murderers and evil people out there!

BTW, my next post may be entitled: I'm so proud to be a piece of Gouda!

[BigAppleFan]

Originally Posted by Nica64

I wear a Rolex because I like them not
because this guy or that guy have one.

100% with you on this.

And because Rolex makes a quality watch!

[Quicksilver]

Originally Posted by Denny M

Interesting pics David. Wondering if these have these been officially authenticated as genuine pics? In other words not manipulated in any way.

I have a young idealistic mate that idolises Che and the concept of communism (although he is from a very wealthy family) and despises Rolex watches, i'm going to email these to him. Can't wait to see what he says lol!

Also any pics of Fidel with his Rollie?

I can't authenticate them - they are from my large collection of Rolex pics trawled from the Net (and taking up a huge portion of my hard drive). But the legend of Che owning and relying on a Rolex is authenticated. Some guy - an American I think - took possession of Che's Rolex after his death. Not sure if he still has it or if he sold it on.