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Stevesblakely · 7 January 2018, 05:40 PM

So , on a whim, I took a walk into Stockholm yesterday.
Flipping one of my Explorers, and it's New Year All that type of excuse we used go and play.
Pondering a diver, so went for a cuppa or two with some if the dealers. There must be a Sub - Daytona shortage here because I swear they all had one or the other on their wrists.
I digress.
Now Sweden in my opinion is a HUGE FAN OF THE ROLEX SPORTS / MOTM LINES.
I wore my Speedy TINTIN to sass them a bit.. They all hate it, then they try to get me drunk with caffeine and chocolate muffins (to "assist in my Trigger pull)
You have to love them, the little darlings .

Ok ... they show me subs, Deepsea Batman, new Exp, Cameron, Planets, and the list goes on..
My black 2006 Exp 2 will never leave my wrist, but, at the moment , the vavavoom just isn't there.
I Just can't feel the love at the moment, it's not like it used to be.

Then.... This happened.....
Late in the day , and with belt loosened by two notches , l popped into see a golfing buddy. ( like me , he also tells his wife he is done with watches

)
Small talking about stuff until I noticed that his left cuff was " a little more
stretched " than normal.... I smelled a secret!

Things Kind of went like this:
Me: you didn't tell me!
Him: Tell you what!!.
Me: don't be a smartass boyo.... you didn't think I would see that the bulge under your left cuff is .. let's say..... a little larger?!!
Him: I have no idea what you Are talking about...
Me: YOU $#/%&$#@/... YOU PULLED A TRIGGER WITHOUT ME BEING THERE!!!!
I ought to $@#@#$$%= for doing that!
Him: I have only borrowed it for a few days to test out the feel. I swear I was coming over to show you!!!!!.
Now this guy has just about every type of Rolex, Omega, AP...yaddayadda...
Me: Oh now you have got a sneak peak at new toys from Basel 2018.
Him : No.... 2017
Me: What do you mean .... no.

Then, as he pulled up his shirt cuff..... l was saying : Ok then , let me see your new extra large diamond model of The Skydwel.................
Me: staring, open mouthed.
Me: WTF!!!!!!! Shouted so loud the entire place went quiet.....
It should be explained here that l never know what l like until l see it.

You know the "love at first sight, jaw drops, drooling like a dog look? "
(She keeps telling me that a what happened when l first saw her.... yeah right)
So, I Looked at this watch.. looked at him ( smug smiling ballix)
It was a diver
It was a chunk of titanium.
Black dial, NOT one of our usual whims.
HIM: AH? AAAAHH? AHHHHHHHHHAHAA

All this while he watched my open jaw and drooling tongue following this "Thing" as he waved around in front of me.
Then he started.... Steve, this is 17mm thick
Me: bullshit!
Him: 46.8mm diameter..
Me......uuuuurrrrrrggghhhggsgaghh. or something like that.
Him: what do you think? Nice?

I closed my mouth, gathered myself and he handed me the "Thing."
Thinking... do not be emotional, ok? It's only a watch you have not seen before ... it's only a ...WHOOOOOOOAAAA...... I MEAN ... WTF!!!!!!!! ARE YOU SERIOUS?????!!!!
NO!!! And he said "YES!!!" and l said
" F/#@$", and he said. "Exactly right! Turns out everybody at Basel 2017 was gagging over the new Deepsea, and Citizen 1000.
Me: and we missed this?!
Him: not only us but Sweden too. This is xxxxxxxxx (name omitted) personal watch.
Me: if this was here we would have known about it
Him: hasn't gotten here to my knowledge yet. ( need to actually confirm this)
Me: 9 months after the show.
Him: yep.

Act 1 finishes here.
Before I go on here with " the big reveal"
And having played with, bought, sold , stripped/ built watches while learning the realm that is Horology
Very few models/firms indeed have signalled a major change in the hierarchy of the upper middle tier of the watch world in recent times. The long established royalty we all know and love have created the wave for decades.
My feeling on this? Omega has how many models of the Speedmaster? 40+
Rolex and their DD lines.
Their tried and tested method of if it's not broken , don't fix it has kept them where they are for decades
But , honestly how long can these boom days last.

Well people in the next few year this "New," and I mean new

Armchair critics will kick their opinions ..hopefully into this thread, and I hope they do. If it has not been done before if course.
The will be agrees and not agrees...

Now I of course am talking about one model of the brand here,,,,
Say what you will now if course, but all of you should , at the next opportunity try this watch on, feeling and look at it.
This watch is amazing in its build , styling, and the overall quality is better than ROLEX..... YEAH I SAID IT.
(I ONLY HOPE ROLEX KNOW IT TOO)

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN
MY NEXT WATCH,
BECAUSE IT IS BETTER THAN ANY ROLEX DIVER I HAVE SEEN, ( and it looks great on me

AS I said , THIS IS a big diver, but smaller than the SD.
THERE ARE reviews on Utube, some well made, some not, but as always
Interested in all your opinions

Now, not having slept for about two days- due to jetlag and sick children, I had nothing to do so spun up this little saga over the night for your viewing pleasure

GRAND SEIKO HI BEAT 36000 model SBGH255
46.9mm x 17mm 600m 16milgauss (wow)

I bet you all know what it is already. But here you go:

The blue dial is limited to 500 pieces =
$14000..ish
The black dial is unlimited=$12000..ish

PLEASE PLEASE, before you ask. This is my personal opinion and that is all.
I am not nor ever been affiliated with Grand Seiko... or for that matter rolex.omega.AP...... Patek... yawn....Philipezzzzzzzźzzzzzz

S

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Flier · 7 January 2018, 06:04 PM

14000 USD really?
Enough said.............

Fleetlord · 7 January 2018, 06:11 PM

While I appreciate the extraordinary effort that you put into this post, the price on this GS Diver is ridiculous.

I own 2 GS watches and I really like them...but again...preposterous cost for this watch.

$5k? Maybe. $14K absolutely not.

mountainjogger · 7 January 2018, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fleetlord

While I appreciate the extraordinary effort that you put into this post, the price on this GS Diver is ridiculous.

I own 2 GS watches and I really like them...but again...preposterous cost for this watch.

$5k? Maybe. $14K absolutely not.

:smo kin:

DGB · 7 January 2018, 06:19 PM

The lume of the second hand is at the bottom of the hand, how do you read the seconds in the dark ?? Half a minute more or half a minute less ??

regnant · 7 January 2018, 07:04 PM

I was going to buy this model but went for Submariner 114060 . At the end of the day I'm very happy with my choice. It's a nice watch but I don't like its numbers �� on the bezel, I like Submariner, Sea Dweller implementations in character wise
Bes, a watch of this price should incorporate screw in links, I'm not sure for this watch though

zaratsu · 7 January 2018, 07:21 PM

Sorry, even though I'm a Grand Seiko fan and owner, their divers and chronos leave me cold.

Andad · 7 January 2018, 07:25 PM

I have a few Seiko watches but Au$20k is too rich even for an exalted GS.

arcadelt · 7 January 2018, 07:52 PM

Can I please get a credit back on the 10 minutes it took me to read to the end of this post?

Stevesblakely · 7 January 2018, 08:28 PM

No... l think those it's going well, pretty balanced

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meganfox17 · 7 January 2018, 10:27 PM

✓The Pinterest picture posted of the blue dialled GS Pro Diver 600 Hi Beat 36K is showing the WRONG reference number. The correct reference is SBGH257
✓ The irony of GS's 1st saturation diver HB is that the Normal production black dialled model SBGH255 has the Gilt printing with gold rimmed index markers.The Limited Edition model doesn't have the gold accents !
✓ I am not entirely convinced the asking price of LE blue dialled GS Diver HB is US$ 14 K-ish. The official Seiko boutique in KL had 1 LE unit for sale few months back going for something like US$ 9225

1William · 7 January 2018, 10:36 PM

I like the GS line but can not get myself to pay that much. Maybe one day. For now I will stick with my Turtles.

SearChart · 7 January 2018, 10:58 PM

I had to skip to the pictures, only to be underwhelmed. Cut the caffeine dude.

brandrea · 7 January 2018, 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SearChart

I had to skip to the pictures, only to be underwhelmed. Cut the caffeine dude.

I have to admit, it’s waaaay too early for me to read a post that long. I cut straight to the photos and comments here.

skkali168 · 8 January 2018, 12:01 AM

The retail prices I saw on the internet for the USA is 9-10k. Still too expensive but way under the 12-14k

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droptopman · 8 January 2018, 12:19 AM

No offense as I generally like Seiko, but it looks like they took designs from Omega (case), AP (dial) and Rolex and forced them together.

Watch This · 8 January 2018, 12:23 AM

OP shown the door.

Reddy_Kilowatt · 8 January 2018, 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Watch This

OP shown the door.

Man, there have been some quick hooks in the past couple of weeks.

Teetime71 · 8 January 2018, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Watch This

OP shown the door.

...and 5150’d thank goodness

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tng11 · 8 January 2018, 06:43 PM

Tl;dr.

Dr.LJ · 8 January 2018, 12:32 AM

It does not look that bad but at that price, would rather buy something else.

oldman2005 · 8 January 2018, 03:32 AM

I do like Seiko and have seen that GS Diver, personally for that much $$$ I get the Rolex SD43 which is a better watch IMO and if you have to have a titanium diver than check out the Omega Ploprof titanium diver with mesh bracelet, both Omega Ploprof and Rolex SD43 divers had much more history behind them than this GS Diver.

I'd rather get the Seiko Tuna 1000m Automatic diver (which I have one and love it) which an incredible watch with rich history for much less money. Or new limited edition SLA017 if you can find one

DLRIDES · 8 January 2018, 03:36 AM

T l d r

Wesley Crusher · 8 January 2018, 04:43 AM

zaratsu · 8 January 2018, 06:49 AM

I envy you guys who had smarts to not read.
Unbelievable waste of time.

oldman2005 · 8 January 2018, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zaratsu

I envy you guys who had smarts to not read.
Unbelievable waste of time.

Some thing called speed reading as only you speed through the main point see the pix skip the rest

GB-man · 8 January 2018, 02:35 PM

Hey the story wasn’t bad just the watch leaves a LOT to be desired.

I wanted to buy this watch. I would kill for a reasonably sized well done automatic GS diver.

The case is obscenely large. The hands are not only ugly, they overlap in an awkward manner.

The date is in an undesirable location.

It’s top thick.

It’s overpriced.

Vishy26 · 8 January 2018, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GB-man

Hey the story wasn’t bad just the watch leaves a LOT to be desired.

I wanted to buy this watch. I would kill for a reasonably sized well done automatic GS diver.

The case is obscenely large. The hands are not only ugly, they overlap in an awkward manner.

The date is in an undesirable location.

It’s top thick.

It’s overpriced.

Agree, that hour hand is something I can't appreciate.

Jay (Eire) · 8 January 2018, 10:00 PM

If the OP was blown away good for him. Design and stylistically this has nothing on a Sub.

Like many of you the GS divers do nothing for me (and I own a few GS, and a few Seiko divers).

slcbbrown · 12 January 2018, 09:09 AM

I'm not a fan. Ignoring the pricing, I still find it to be not attractive. The hands are a bad fit for the overall look.

Even at the lower MSRP's mentioned, there are too many other, better looking options out there.

7 January 2018, 05:40 PM	#1
Stevesblakely Banned Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Sweden Posts: 71	Me.. " No??!??" Him.. ""Yes!" Me..🤤 So , on a whim, I took a walk into Stockholm yesterday. Flipping one of my Explorers, and it's New Year All that type of excuse we used go and play. Pondering a diver, so went for a cuppa or two with some if the dealers. There must be a Sub - Daytona shortage here because I swear they all had one or the other on their wrists. I digress. Now Sweden in my opinion is a HUGE FAN OF THE ROLEX SPORTS / MOTM LINES. I wore my Speedy TINTIN to sass them a bit.. They all hate it, then they try to get me drunk with caffeine and chocolate muffins (to "assist in my Trigger pull) You have to love them, the little darlings . Ok ... they show me subs, Deepsea Batman, new Exp, Cameron, Planets, and the list goes on.. My black 2006 Exp 2 will never leave my wrist, but, at the moment , the vavavoom just isn't there. I Just can't feel the love at the moment, it's not like it used to be. Then.... This happened..... Late in the day , and with belt loosened by two notches , l popped into see a golfing buddy. ( like me , he also tells his wife he is done with watches ) Small talking about stuff until I noticed that his left cuff was " a little more stretched " than normal.... I smelled a secret! Things Kind of went like this: Me: you didn't tell me! Him: Tell you what!!. Me: don't be a smartass boyo.... you didn't think I would see that the bulge under your left cuff is .. let's say..... a little larger?!! Him: I have no idea what you Are talking about... Me: YOU $#/%&$#@/... YOU PULLED A TRIGGER WITHOUT ME BEING THERE!!!! I ought to $@#@#$$%= for doing that! Him: I have only borrowed it for a few days to test out the feel. I swear I was coming over to show you!!!!!. Now this guy has just about every type of Rolex, Omega, AP...yaddayadda... Me: Oh now you have got a sneak peak at new toys from Basel 2018. Him : No.... 2017 Me: What do you mean .... no. Then, as he pulled up his shirt cuff..... l was saying : Ok then , let me see your new extra large diamond model of The Skydwel................. Me: staring, open mouthed. Me: WTF!!!!!!! Shouted so loud the entire place went quiet..... It should be explained here that l never know what l like until l see it. You know the "love at first sight, jaw drops, drooling like a dog look? " (She keeps telling me that a what happened when l first saw her.... yeah right) So, I Looked at this watch.. looked at him ( smug smiling ballix) It was a diver It was a chunk of titanium. Black dial, NOT one of our usual whims. HIM: AH? AAAAHH? AHHHHHHHHHAHAA All this while he watched my open jaw and drooling tongue following this "Thing" as he waved around in front of me. Then he started.... Steve, this is 17mm thick Me: bullshit! Him: 46.8mm diameter.. Me......uuuuurrrrrrggghhhggsgaghh. or something like that. Him: what do you think? Nice? I closed my mouth, gathered myself and he handed me the "Thing." Thinking... do not be emotional, ok? It's only a watch you have not seen before ... it's only a ...WHOOOOOOOAAAA...... I MEAN ... WTF!!!!!!!! ARE YOU SERIOUS?????!!!! NO!!! And he said "YES!!!" and l said " F/#@$", and he said. "Exactly right! Turns out everybody at Basel 2017 was gagging over the new Deepsea, and Citizen 1000. Me: and we missed this?! Him: not only us but Sweden too. This is xxxxxxxxx (name omitted) personal watch. Me: if this was here we would have known about it Him: hasn't gotten here to my knowledge yet. ( need to actually confirm this) Me: 9 months after the show. Him: yep. Act 1 finishes here. Before I go on here with " the big reveal" And having played with, bought, sold , stripped/ built watches while learning the realm that is Horology Very few models/firms indeed have signalled a major change in the hierarchy of the upper middle tier of the watch world in recent times. The long established royalty we all know and love have created the wave for decades. My feeling on this? Omega has how many models of the Speedmaster? 40+ Rolex and their DD lines. Their tried and tested method of if it's not broken , don't fix it has kept them where they are for decades But , honestly how long can these boom days last. Well people in the next few year this "New," and I mean new Armchair critics will kick their opinions ..hopefully into this thread, and I hope they do. If it has not been done before if course. The will be agrees and not agrees... Now I of course am talking about one model of the brand here,,,, Say what you will now if course, but all of you should , at the next opportunity try this watch on, feeling and look at it. This watch is amazing in its build , styling, and the overall quality is better than ROLEX..... YEAH I SAID IT. (I ONLY HOPE ROLEX KNOW IT TOO) LADIES AND GENTLEMEN MY NEXT WATCH, BECAUSE IT IS BETTER THAN ANY ROLEX DIVER I HAVE SEEN, ( and it looks great on me AS I said , THIS IS a big diver, but smaller than the SD. THERE ARE reviews on Utube, some well made, some not, but as always Interested in all your opinions Now, not having slept for about two days- due to jetlag and sick children, I had nothing to do so spun up this little saga over the night for your viewing pleasure GRAND SEIKO HI BEAT 36000 model SBGH255 46.9mm x 17mm 600m 16milgauss (wow) I bet you all know what it is already. But here you go: The blue dial is limited to 500 pieces = $14000..ish The black dial is unlimited=$12000..ish PLEASE PLEASE, before you ask. This is my personal opinion and that is all. I am not nor ever been affiliated with Grand Seiko... or for that matter rolex.omega.AP...... Patek... yawn....Philipezzzzzzzźzzzzzz S Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk

7 January 2018, 07:04 PM	#6
regnant "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Close to Rolex AD Posts: 3,474	I was going to buy this model but went for Submariner 114060 . At the end of the day I'm very happy with my choice. It's a nice watch but I don't like its numbers �� on the bezel, I like Submariner, Sea Dweller implementations in character wise Bes, a watch of this price should incorporate screw in links, I'm not sure for this watch though __________________

7 January 2018, 07:25 PM	#8
Andad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,526	I have a few Seiko watches but Au$20k is too rich even for an exalted GS. __________________ E

8 January 2018, 12:19 AM	#16
droptopman "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Real Name: Mark Location: Washington State Watch: SUBS and GMT's! Posts: 9,664	No offense as I generally like Seiko, but it looks like they took designs from Omega (case), AP (dial) and Rolex and forced them together. __________________ Judge Smails: Ty, what did you shoot today? Ty: Oh, Judge, I don't keep score. Judge Smails: Then how do you measure yourself with other golfers? Ty: By height.

8 January 2018, 03:36 AM	#23
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7 January 2018, 06:04 PM	#2
Flier Banned Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Cy Watch: ROLEX Posts: 516	14000 USD really? Enough said.............

7 January 2018, 06:11 PM	#3
Fleetlord 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Vain Posts: 6,022	While I appreciate the extraordinary effort that you put into this post, the price on this GS Diver is ridiculous. I own 2 GS watches and I really like them...but again...preposterous cost for this watch. $5k? Maybe. $14K absolutely not.

7 January 2018, 06:19 PM	#5
DGB "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: uk Posts: 992	The lume of the second hand is at the bottom of the hand, how do you read the seconds in the dark ?? Half a minute more or half a minute less ??

7 January 2018, 07:21 PM	#7
zaratsu "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: AU Posts: 123	Sorry, even though I'm a Grand Seiko fan and owner, their divers and chronos leave me cold.

7 January 2018, 07:52 PM	#9
arcadelt "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Monaro, NSW Posts: 846	Can I please get a credit back on the 10 minutes it took me to read to the end of this post?

7 January 2018, 08:28 PM	#10
Stevesblakely Banned Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Sweden Posts: 71	No... l think those it's going well, pretty balanced Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk

7 January 2018, 10:27 PM	#11
meganfox17 Banned Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Kuala Lumpur , Ma Posts: 2,011	✓The Pinterest picture posted of the blue dialled GS Pro Diver 600 Hi Beat 36K is showing the WRONG reference number. The correct reference is SBGH257 ✓ The irony of GS's 1st saturation diver HB is that the Normal production black dialled model SBGH255 has the Gilt printing with gold rimmed index markers.The Limited Edition model doesn't have the gold accents ! ✓ I am not entirely convinced the asking price of LE blue dialled GS Diver HB is US$ 14 K-ish. The official Seiko boutique in KL had 1 LE unit for sale few months back going for something like US$ 9225

7 January 2018, 10:36 PM	#12
1William 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: North Carolina Watch: Rolex/Others Posts: 47,764	I like the GS line but can not get myself to pay that much. Maybe one day. For now I will stick with my Turtles.

8 January 2018, 12:01 AM	#15
skkali168 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Real Name: RP Location: irvine Watch: 116689 Posts: 1,222	The retail prices I saw on the internet for the USA is 9-10k. Still too expensive but way under the 12-14k Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

8 January 2018, 12:23 AM	#17
Watch This Banned Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: In your head Watch: SS YMII Posts: 1,619	OP shown the door.

8 January 2018, 06:43 PM	#20
tng11 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: N/A Posts: 3,634	Tl;dr.

8 January 2018, 12:32 AM	#21
Dr.LJ 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Earth Watch: Rolex & Breitling Posts: 322	It does not look that bad but at that price, would rather buy something else.

8 January 2018, 03:32 AM	#22
oldman2005 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: norcal Posts: 3,031	I do like Seiko and have seen that GS Diver, personally for that much $$$ I get the Rolex SD43 which is a better watch IMO and if you have to have a titanium diver than check out the Omega Ploprof titanium diver with mesh bracelet, both Omega Ploprof and Rolex SD43 divers had much more history behind them than this GS Diver. I'd rather get the Seiko Tuna 1000m Automatic diver (which I have one and love it) which an incredible watch with rich history for much less money. Or new limited edition SLA017 if you can find one

8 January 2018, 04:43 AM	#24
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8 January 2018, 06:49 AM	#25
zaratsu "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: AU Posts: 123	I envy you guys who had smarts to not read. Unbelievable waste of time.

8 January 2018, 02:35 PM	#27
GB-man 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 37,355	Hey the story wasn’t bad just the watch leaves a LOT to be desired. I wanted to buy this watch. I would kill for a reasonably sized well done automatic GS diver. The case is obscenely large. The hands are not only ugly, they overlap in an awkward manner. The date is in an undesirable location. It’s top thick. It’s overpriced. __________________

8 January 2018, 10:00 PM	#29
Jay (Eire) 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: @jb.watching Location: NYC Posts: 1,491	If the OP was blown away good for him. Design and stylistically this has nothing on a Sub. Like many of you the GS divers do nothing for me (and I own a few GS, and a few Seiko divers).

12 January 2018, 09:09 AM	#30
slcbbrown "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: steve Location: dallas area Watch: 50's TT t-bird Posts: 3,689	I'm not a fan. Ignoring the pricing, I still find it to be not attractive. The hands are a bad fit for the overall look. Even at the lower MSRP's mentioned, there are too many other, better looking options out there.

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