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Old 20 November 2008, 02:36 PM   #1
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What if your ROLEX was assembled outside Switzerland?

How would you react if you found out your ROLEX was assembled in a country other than Switzerland???

I will sell all 3 of mine, take the $$ and buy some gold with it and never look back at ROLEX ....
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Old 20 November 2008, 03:43 PM   #2
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Lots of hypothetical questions being asked lately. :)

The chances of this happening, are more remote than the chances of the rotation of the earth reversing.
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Old 20 November 2008, 03:55 PM   #3
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Old 20 November 2008, 04:51 PM   #4
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How would you react if you found out your ROLEX was assembled in a country other than Switzerland???

I will sell all 3 of mine, take the $$ and buy some gold with it and never look back at ROLEX ....
So who cares?

If it ain't SWISS MADE, hopefully it's a SWISS MAID!!!
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Old 20 November 2008, 04:53 PM   #5
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So who cares?

If it ain't SWISS MADE, hopefully it's a SWISS MAID!!!
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Old 20 November 2008, 05:00 PM   #6
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So who cares?

If it ain't SWISS MADE, hopefully it's a SWISS MAID!!!

It won't say "swiss made" if not assembled in Swiss.
I don't think this will happen but it is does and maintains the quality, I may still consider it but I might not. Maybe I'll look at Seiko then
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Old 20 November 2008, 05:03 PM   #7
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So if hypothetically Rolex moved their factory to Germany, Belguim or France and had the exact same facilities, staff and materials you wouldn't buy from them?

I know the 'Swiss Made' thing is a mark of distinction, but is it really that important where a watch is finally assembled, there's a few German watch companies that make fantastic watches and they've not felt the urge to move across the border.
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Wouldn't bother me a bit.


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Old 20 November 2008, 08:27 PM   #9
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Well if it was overhauled outside of Switzerland, it was reassembled / assembled outside of Switzerland. If a 71 Ferrari Daytona (365 GTS/4) was restored in Spartanburg, South Carolina would it be an American car. Is a Mercedes built in Tuscaloosa County Alabama a German car.
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Old 20 November 2008, 08:45 PM   #10
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Old 20 November 2008, 08:57 PM   #11
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It would make no difference to me providing the quality of the components and assembly remained the same.
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Old 20 November 2008, 09:11 PM   #12
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some moderators of this board need to chill out ... they are a little too uptight about freedom of speech ... this is what I got from one moderator, regarding this topic:

The whole issue of a Rolex being made outside Switzerland as a notion is absurd, but that isn't why you were infracted.

You are asking people again to discriminate in their purchases based on country of manufacture and impliedly invite people to disparage one country from another. This will quite likely result in disharmony and disputation based on the ability of one country to make a product of the same quality as another.

You have been warned and you seem to have no regard for the rules or the consequences. You will be held responsible for any racial unrest your new thread creates.



INFRACTED??? For freedom of Speech??? WTF???? Who is running this board? some moderators need to find better things to do ....it is totally absurd....
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Old 20 November 2008, 09:18 PM   #13
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Why is it so important to you that you would sell them and never look back at them?
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Old 20 November 2008, 09:25 PM   #14
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Because the watch being made exclusively in Switzerland is to me what ROLEX is all about ... apart from their history and all, knowing it is in built in house in a small exclusive place is part of the appeal ....
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Steelman, some friendly advice. Don't poke a tiger with a sharp stick.
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Old 20 November 2008, 09:29 PM   #16
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Steel4me you were given an infraction for starting the thread:
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How would you react if you found out your ROLEX was assembled in China or India or any other 3rd world nation?

I will sell all 3 of mine, take the $$ and buy some gold with it and never look back at ROLEX ....
No you chose to start a similar thread and were merely given a warning by way of a personal message.

By publishing that personal message and in the manner that you have, it appears that you wish to publicly disparage me. I don't really appreciate that, and it was totally unnecessary.
This is not a forum to do and say as you wish, there are people from all over the world and there are rules regarding decorum and issues which you agreed to abide when joining.
I'm quite surprised that you choose to make what was a private matter public and disparage a moderation action that was taken and one in no way prevented you from discussing the topic as you presented it in this thread.

So yes I am chilled.
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Old 20 November 2008, 10:05 PM   #17
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Old 20 November 2008, 11:06 PM   #18
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Well said...

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Steel4me you were given an infraction for starting the thread:


No you chose to start a similar thread and were merely given a warning by way of a personal message.

By publishing that personal message and in the manner that you have, it appears that you wish to publicly disparage me. I don't really appreciate that, and it was totally unnecessary.
This is not a forum to do and say as you wish, there are people from all over the world and there are rules regarding decorum and issues which you agreed to abide when joining.
I'm quite surprised that you choose to make what was a private matter public and disparage a moderation action that was taken and one in no way prevented you from discussing the topic as you presented it in this thread.

So yes I am chilled.
Well said, well handled. Freedom of speech does not imply freedom from social responsibility.

That being said, and to stay on topic, I buy a Swiss watch because it's suppose to be Swiss made. That's not to say any country has a monopoly on quality, I suspect there are a lot of shoddy Swiss products. But when a company makes its reputation on its country of origin, moving is a little like betraying a public trust.
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Old 20 November 2008, 11:09 PM   #19
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Why? Your watch would still be Swiss Made
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Old 21 November 2008, 12:41 AM   #21
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Part of the cache of Rolex is the Swiss craftmanship. Would you buy a Porsche built in Detroit?
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Old 21 November 2008, 01:01 AM   #22
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I think that "Swiss Made" in any case can be a bit nebulous.

ETA can ship their movements parts, which are > 50% made in Switzerland, to the Far East for assembly, then the assembled movement comes back to Switzerland, and to Omega for assembly into the finished watch, and that watch is then (legally) marked "SWISS MADE". > 50% parts made, and final assembly done, in Switzerland.

Rolex could do the same, and still have their marked as such.

Of course, whether that's ever going to happen, or whether that makes Omega in some way inferior, is open to question.

I'm quite pleased that my Nikon is made in Japan. Ah, but it's not, it's from Thailand. It all gets very silly very quickly...
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My current wife was made in America with Irish OME parts. Anyone like to buy her?
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This thread seems a little tense so I hope I'm not making matters worse by saying that it matters to me not one jot where the watch is assembled.

As al put it, as long as the parts and assembley are off the same quality it could be made anywhere!

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Old 21 November 2008, 03:22 AM   #26
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If there's one guy here who can quickly defrost a tense situation, it would have to be you, ya tosser!!
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This thread seems a little tense so I hope I'm not making matters worse by saying that it matters to me not one jot where the watch is assembled.

As al put it, as long as the parts and assembley are off the same quality it could be made anywhere!

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That's right, Jim......but, guys....hey, why talk about IF's and BUT's - Rolexes will continue to be made in Switzerland - so let's cross our bridges when we come to them.

In the meantime, let's just enjoy these beautiful time-pieces we, the privileged few, happen to own so proudly!!
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Last defrosting of a tense situation was after the wife ate a few chili peppers.
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That's right, Jim......but, guys....hey, why talk about IF's and BUT's - Rolexes will continue to be made in Switzerland - so let's cross our bridges when we come to them.

In the meantime, let's just enjoy these beautiful time-pieces we, the privileged few, happen to own so proudly!!
Well put JJ!
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