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Old 25 January 2018, 06:30 AM   #1
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So sorry if this is a stupid question... 116234 DateJust Datewheel......

I've seen some 36mm 116234 Datejusts with the blue dial without the roulette datewheel, and some with it.

Is there an option?

I'm hours away from pulling the trigger and I can't seem to find any reasoning as to the difference.

Am I missing something?

Sorry again if this is a dumb Q to ask.
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Old 25 January 2018, 06:33 AM   #2
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I knew the blue had it, though i too have seen some without... it's easy to check it on the watch before you buy it.
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Old 25 January 2018, 06:57 AM   #3
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My observation is the majority of 116234s are made without the roulette date display.
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Old 25 January 2018, 10:11 PM   #4
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I think it's a mod?

Sometimes, roulette wheels are fitted to those models only with a smooth bezel as opposed to fluted or visa-versa it seems.

You'll have to do your homework to find out.
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Old 25 January 2018, 10:20 PM   #5
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I bought my 116234 with fluted bezel & blue dial, and roulette date wheel and have seen other dials with the roulette date at ADs too.

I'd talk to your AD about its availability.
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Old 25 January 2018, 11:46 PM   #6
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Are you sure it was a Datejust and not an Oyster Perpetual 36? 116000

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Old 25 January 2018, 11:50 PM   #7
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Are you sure it was a Datejust and not an Oyster Perpetual 36? 116000
Yes, they are so easy to mix up.

What date wheel does your have?
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Old 26 January 2018, 12:38 AM   #8
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There are a bunch of past threads on TRF about which DJ36 models have the roulette wheel and how to tell. At least in past I think it was just some dials and not others (in the Rolex dial catalogue the ones with an “*” have the roulette). But of course dials are changed on Datejusts sometimes so you could see the roulette with any dial; that doesn’t mean Rolex made it that way.
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Old 26 January 2018, 01:03 AM   #9
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There are a bunch of past threads on TRF about which DJ36 models have the roulette wheel and how to tell. At least in past I think it was just some dials and not others (in the Rolex dial catalogue the ones with an “*” have the roulette). But of course dials are changed on Datejusts sometimes so you could see the roulette with any dial; that doesn’t mean Rolex made it that way.
You're right regarding Dial Master Catalog and the ones with "*" ...

But you are not regarding your conclusion.Not any DJ dial could have had the roulette date wheel.

That is specific (not an option) for certain dials, always the same list, except for dial that are removed from the catalog.
Actual Steel DJ's dials with roulette are the Black , Blue , White with stick indexes and Black with arabic concentric numerals.

In the past we also had Black Arab, Black Arab Jubilé, Blue Arab Concentric, Pink, Silver/Black, Steel Arab Concentric, Steel/Silver, White Arab.
All these dials have been removed from catalog years after years.


There's a similar list of dials for YG/SS and RG/SS rolesor models.
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Old 26 January 2018, 01:05 AM   #10
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As of right now according to my AD, the stick dials have the roulette wheel and the romans do not
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Old 26 January 2018, 01:14 AM   #11
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Are you sure it was a Datejust and not an Oyster Perpetual 36? 116000
They are talking about a DJ without the alternating black/red (“roulette”) date wheel, not one without the date at all.
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Old 26 January 2018, 02:03 AM   #12
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Sorry Alpino, I was unclear. What I meant was, sometimes dealers or watchmakers swap dials on Datejusts (I am told). So that could result in a “non-roulette dial” appearing on a watch with a roulette day wheel — the point being, just because you might be able to find a picture on the internet of a DJ with XYZ dial with a roulette wheel, doesn’t mean that was an actual Rolex configuration.
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Old 26 January 2018, 03:23 AM   #13
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They are talking about a DJ without the alternating black/red (“roulette”) date wheel, not one without the date at all.
Ahhh. Thank you.

Ignore me. Carry on.
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Old 26 January 2018, 04:29 AM   #14
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As of right now according to my AD, the stick dials have the roulette wheel and the romans do not
Only black, white and blue dials.
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Old 26 January 2018, 04:32 AM   #15
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Only black, white and blue dials.
^This!
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Old 26 January 2018, 04:26 PM   #16
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i scored a blue with roulette. i was thrilled. historically it was related to the rationing days of WWII.
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Old 26 January 2018, 09:38 PM   #17
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Still no reason as to why some are and some aren't.

There's a 36mm in Goldsmiths by me without a roulette (it's blue, jubilee, fluted bezel etc)

Absolutely clueless haha
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Old 26 January 2018, 11:56 PM   #18
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The roulettes allow you to chart your splurge/fasting plans. A good little feature methinks.

Red: no meat, dairy or sweets nothing above 1,000 calories.
Black: anything goes up to 5,000 calories.

Or your workouts...
Black: maximum effort, long distances, increased levels.
Red: recovery exercise, cross-train, easier pace/effort.

Or just about anything where a little alternating color can remind you what should be done on that day.


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The roulettes allow you to chart your splurge/fasting plans. A good little feature methinks.

Red: no meat, dairy or sweets nothing above 1,000 calories.
Black: anything goes up to 3,000 calories.

Or your workouts...
Black: maximum effort, long distances, increased levels.
Red: recovery exercise, cross-train, easier pace/effort.

Or just about anything where a little alternating color can remind you what should be done on that day.


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Old 16 February 2018, 07:32 AM   #20
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The roulette availability is described in "Rolex dial catalog":

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Old 16 February 2018, 07:56 AM   #21
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Roulette date is a beauty; my 116200 had it.




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