Rolex Passion Report is now predicting ...

[Dusko.Popov]

Red lettering and a red gmt hand as a replacement for the green on the otherwise black-bezeled gmt. Possibly with a new movement?

It’s somewhat interesting given the reports from some that there is a shortage of Ln.

Mods, I’m not sure if it’s worth consolidating Rpr or Basel reports into one thread.

I think Rpr (Phillip, I think) has at least a moderately good track record in his predictions enough to mention his latest update.

Www.rolexpassionreport.com

[WJGESQ]

Boring.



They need SS Coke.

[vipereaper30]

Originally Posted by WJGESQ

Boring.



They need SS Coke.

Seriously this is the only prediction I want to see x1000

[THC]

Originally Posted by Dusko.Popov

Red lettering and a red gmt hand as a replacement for the green on the otherwise black-bezeled gmt. Possibly with a new movement?

It’s somewhat interesting given the reports from some that there is a shortage of Ln.

Mods, I’m not sure if it’s worth consolidating Rpr or Basel reports into one thread.

I think Rpr (Phillip, I think) has at least a moderately good track record in his predictions enough to mention his latest update.

Www.rolexpassionreport.com

Not boring, thanks for the post

[jrs146]

Very interesting I thought


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[ferrissteve11]

I thought it was worth checking out.

[ap1]

I’ll take that Milgauss

[FSUGeoff]

All Blue GMT please

[Etschell]

milgauss is okay. i think a coke ss would be brushed not pcl.

[Justinmg]

Red on the explorer would make no sense and would ruin a classic

[Navarino]

Digging the redline Milgauss - have never been into that watch but wow does adding that bezel totally change the look.

Also love the image of the Explorer II polar with black bezel. I've been telling some fellow watch friends for months that if Rolex comes out with this it will sell like hotcakes. I'm sure that plenty of people tired of waiting for white dial Daytona C will quickly flock to that piece due to the "aesthetic" appeal of the white Daytona color scheme.

[AK797]

I think this red text stuff is getting a bit silly now, no value in Rolex making all these models look as similar as possible, they already do so they need more colour diversification, not less.

[JacksonStone]

Out of all the predictions RPR has made, I believe he's gotten three right. Those three were nailed so exactly, it's hard to imagine he didn't get some insider info. However, everything else he predicts looks like the fantasies of someone with a knack for Photoshop and a vivid imagination - and a not-well-thought out imagination at that. Red line on an Explorer? Nonsense. The trick is to try to figure out which predictions are which. Of course, the odds are always that they are his imagination. Insider info is rare.

The red-hand GMT prediction strikes me as a flight of fancy, mainly because of the red line. Rolex doesn't just throw around red lines like beads at Mardi Gras. They're used sparingly, and for significant models. He keeps mentioning the SM43's red line as support for the idea we could see it on other models. I suspect the opposite is true: we won't see Rolex use it again any time soon.

[Ticknaway]

That Milgauss would be nice!

[Chewbacca]

interesting.

i'd like to see a cellini chrono.

[topfuel25]

changing a coloured hand and wording make ppl crazy lol

[SeaAndSky]

Originally Posted by AK797

I think this red text stuff is getting a bit silly now, no value in Rolex making all these models look as similar as possible, they already do so they need more colour diversification, not less.

I couldn’t agree more. The 116710 LN, my daily wearer, is unique with the green lettering and GMT hand. To do over it would still be my first Rolex.

[chloebear]

That Explorer 2 with the 1655 bezel would be really nice. Not a fan of an Explorer 2 with a ceramic bezel. There are so many great ceramic bezel choices already. The steel bezel is something a little different in the professional lineup.

[Rad22]

Originally Posted by Chewbacca

interesting.

i'd like to see a cellini chrono.

Me too! Looks amazing!


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[nmb]

The ceramic bezel on the bimetal Daytona is logical,the rest pure guesswork IMHO.

[Max16013]

give the people want they want:

and we want new ss pepsis, cokes, and blueberry's :D

[JacksonStone]

Originally Posted by nmb

The ceramic bezel on the bimetal Daytona is logical,the rest pure guesswork IMHO.

Totally logical, such that anyone paying attention could reasonably guess it will happen. But if it happens, you can bet he'll devote half of next year's predictions to trumpeting he got it right.

I agree - the rest seem like guesswork, although it can be tricky to know just when he might slip in something he has a better reason for thinking will come to be. The recycled predictions - blueberry and Coke GMTs, ceramic Exp. II, etc. - are clearly his own ideas, as are those that are just plain unreasonable (again, I point to the red line Explorer).

[Dusko.Popov]

Originally Posted by JacksonStone

Totally logical, such that anyone paying attention could reasonably guess it will happen. But if it happens, you can bet he'll devote half of next year's predictions to trumpeting he got it right.

I agree - the rest seem like guesswork, although it can be tricky to know just when he might slip in something he has a better reason for thinking will come to be. The recycled predictions - blueberry and Coke GMTs, ceramic Exp. II, etc. - are clearly his own ideas, as are those that are just plain unreasonable (again, I point to the red line Explorer).

I don't see it as guesswork. And to say so trivializes his spot on prognostications.

Last year, a couple of weeks prior to Basel, he said in a posting that he had talked to a contact and the following would be released by Rolex:

1. New Sea dweller
2. Cyclops would be added
3. Size would increase to 43mm
4. There would be red lettering

That isn't a "maybe he has a contact." The chances on him coincidentally hitting on all those design characteristics for a new Sea Dweller silhouette, with Basel still a fortnight away, is infinitesimally and nearly impossibly small.

If you read his blog, then you know that last year, about a month prior to him hitting on the 126600 spot on, he predicted a new 40mm sea dweller with a cyclops and blue writing.

That obviously didn't happen.

Then a couple weeks after that, and way before Basel, he predicted the 126600 perfectly.

To me, the fact that he dropped intel about a sea dweller design that was wildly out of bounds and then followed that up, two weeks before Basel, predicting the design that was spot on exact with the one that went into market, suggests to me that he is getting info about designs that are being considered from someone who is meaningful enough in Rolex to know the design ideas being entertained but far enough away that they don't know comfirmed details until closer to release.

If that's the case, why can't any of the designs that he's proposed, the wild greens and blues and ceramics additions, be ideas that are being bandied about at Rolex campus.

He is the only person on the interwebs who has hit on design silhouettes exactly way before their release. Given that, why not give him the benefit of the doubt with some of these other designs that don't come to fruition? Sure there are plenty of predictions that are off. But do you not feel that perhaps Rolex talks about ideas and designs that never see the light of day?

Also, I think that it's interesting that he says "I'd be surprised if the red/black [coke] gmt isn't released at this year's Basel."

[ronricks]

Originally Posted by Dusko.Popov

Red lettering and a red gmt hand as a replacement for the green on the otherwise black-bezeled gmt. Possibly with a new movement?

It’s somewhat interesting given the reports from some that there is a shortage of Ln.

Mods, I’m not sure if it’s worth consolidating Rpr or Basel reports into one thread.

I think Rpr (Phillip, I think) has at least a moderately good track record in his predictions enough to mention his latest update.

Www.rolexpassionreport.com

I think we get the red hand but with white instead of red lettering. Then people on here try and say their green hand gmt is ‘rare’ and ‘scarce’ when it is simply a mass produced model with an inferior movement to what replaced it.

[JacksonStone]

Originally Posted by Dusko.Popov

If you read his blog...

If you read my post (#13), you'll see you are arguing points I've already made. I believe he does have an inside connection, but obviously they only give him dribs and drabs of information, not the whole picture. Otherwise, he'd have a much better batting average. As it is, he has only nailed three predictions out of countless others. I submit that the ones he gets wrong, which he usually recycles the next year, are pure guesswork and imagination.

Originally Posted by Dusko.Popov

Also, I think that it's interesting that he says "I'd be surprised if the red/black [coke] gmt isn't released at this year's Basel."

He said that last year. Why should we take it seriously this year?

[Dusko.Popov]

Originally Posted by JacksonStone

If you read my post (#13), you'll see you are arguing points I've already made. I believe he does have an inside connection, but obviously they only give him dribs and drabs of information, not the whole picture. Otherwise, he'd be able to predict the entire Rolex lineup for the year, and would never get anything wrong. As it is, he has only nailed three predictions out of countless others. I submit that the ones he gets wrong, which he usually recycles the next year, are pure guesswork and imagination.


He said that last year. Why should we take it seriously this year?

Fair enough. At the end of the day I’m just trying to say that the guy has some established bona fides and he is the only one able or willing to drop info about a remarkably secretive company prior to the date they officially announce watch releases.

I know that he predicted the black/red gmt last year but the “I’d be surprised if this weren’t released this year” (followed by the winking emoji) to me is upping the ante and suggests that that particular prognostication comes from a place of sincere knowledge of what’s around the corner.

Also, I’ll ask again, do you not think that Rolex considers and proposes designs, amongst a small circle, that never see the light of day?

[Chadridv]

Originally Posted by THC

Not boring, thanks for the post

this

[enjoythemusic]

Cellini, i know i know.... yet making a chrono would be interesting and extend Rolex's reach into dress watch marketplace. Don't agree with new chrono mvt as the 'tona mvt would be fine. And yes, i know Cellini is not the most popular here on TRF yet does reach a desirable customer base.

[JacksonStone]

Originally Posted by Dusko.Popov

Also, I’ll ask again, do you not think that Rolex considers and proposes designs, amongst a small circle, that never see the light of day?

That's possible, but by this time of year, Rolex already knows what it's doing for Basel. If most of what RPR presents is based on insider intel, why is the source feeding him so much bad intel at a time it's already known to be bad? Why isn't there a higher percentage of good predictions? In my opinion, the answer is simple: RPR may get an inside scoop on one or two models per year, if that. Everything else, he's guessing at.

On a related note, the SD43 rendering he posted ten or so days before Basel last year was spot on. It looked exactly like what ended up on the website, such that it's not unreasonable to conclude someone actually leaked Rolex's own rendering to RPR. On the other hand, look at the somewhat "hacky" nature of some of his other renderings. For instance, the Exp. IIc. The "ceramic" bezel still contains the brushing of the steel bezel. It's obvious he took a rendering of the current model and just Photoshopped the bezel to look black. I cannot believe if Rolex really is doing such a model, that's their rendering. All the more reason I think a lot of his stuff is from his own imagination.

[JacksonStone]

Originally Posted by Dusko.Popov

I know that he predicted the black/red gmt last year but the “I’d be surprised if this weren’t released this year” (followed by the winking emoji) to me is upping the ante and suggests that that particular prognostication comes from a place of sincere knowledge of what’s around the corner.

Fair point. On the ones he's gotten right, he has typically shown some indication of greater confidence. Heretofore, it's been an Instagram post singling out the model. (See last year's update on the SD43.) I haven't seen any Instagram post regarding the Coke this year. If he modifies the prediction closer to Basel, and especially if the modification includes very specific design characterisitics, I will take it more seriously.

A Coke in the existing case design would be an interesting development. If Rolex does that, it will signal they have no intention of changing the super-case design any time soon. Logically, that might extend to the Submariner, so all the prognosticators of the super-case's demise might have egg on their faces.

Or RPR could be off completely. I guess we'll see.