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Old 5 April 2018, 04:06 AM   #1
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Lange and Journe resale?

I’m interested in purchasing a Lange 1815 Chrono or Journe (model TBD) at some point and was wondering how the resale is. There’s surprisingly little intel on second hand priced out there, so I thought I’d turn to you ever-knowledgeable lot. Is it worth buying used into these brands?
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Old 5 April 2018, 04:30 AM   #2
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Is it worth buying used into these brands?


Yes for sure. Chrono bleu is the only exception I can think of from either brand.


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Old 5 April 2018, 06:20 AM   #3
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I personally would not buy a new Lange or Journe (CB is the exception), you can pretty much expect to take a bath on resale even if you get a good discount from an AD. Even on the used market at fire sale prices they can still take some time to move. But on the secondary market, some of them are incredible values next to the overhyped AP, PP and Rolex models.
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Old 5 April 2018, 06:38 AM   #4
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But on the secondary market, some of them are incredible values next to the overhyped AP, PP and Rolex models.
This right here.
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Old 5 April 2018, 07:23 AM   #5
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I personally would not buy a new Lange or Journe (CB is the exception), you can pretty much expect to take a bath on resale even if you get a good discount from an AD. Even on the used market at fire sale prices they can still take some time to move. But on the secondary market, some of them are incredible values next to the overhyped AP, PP and Rolex models.
Yes, I agree with everything you're saying which is why I started this thread, but can you share with me some of these "fire sale prices" you've seen on Journe's and Lange's? I really haven't been able to find much info at all on resale prices of either. What is the best place to keep track of sold prices? I think the 1815 Chrono (the newer version I'm interested in) is perhaps too new to have seen many sell used, but please let me know if you've seen them.
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Old 5 April 2018, 07:31 AM   #6
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I think the new WG 1815 will hold value best of the Lange's as its a slow limited release and quite sought after, see what ap1, Adam, says, he's got one and knows more.
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Yes, I agree with everything you're saying which is why I started this thread, but can you share with me some of these "fire sale prices" you've seen on Journe's and Lange's? I really haven't been able to find much info at all on resale prices of either. What is the best place to keep track of sold prices? I think the 1815 Chrono (the newer version I'm interested in) is perhaps too new to have seen many sell used, but please let me know if you've seen them.
One example is there has been a WG 1815 Chronograph 2nd generation (i.e. the one before the current black dialed one) on the Canadian Watch Collector forums listed for many months and still hasn't moved for $30,000 USD. Firesale price compared to Chrono24, but no takers after many months. The local grey offered me a Black Label Centigraphe for the equivalent of $39,000 USD and also had trouble moving it.
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Concur with what others have said, with some very limited exceptions on both brands buying used is the best route.

For FPJ even the CB, which most identify as the best model in the line up for holding value, is being offered at $19k or so used. And that's the "ask" price. For ALS the newer 1815 Chrono seems to now be floating around the $41-43k market (like new, I don't think I've seen used), but surely will fall to the mid-$30's once there's a little more supply out there.

You need a little patience with these brands. Volumes aren't high, which means you may need to bide your time for the watch you want at the price you like.
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I think the new WG 1815 will hold value best of the Lange's as its a slow limited release and quite sought after, see what ap1, Adam, says, he's got one and knows more.
You called? I answer. I waited about 7 months for mine to arrive being told it’s one of the first to hit us market through an AD not boutique. The 1815 Black Dial chrono is a beauty and im very happy with it. This is a steal compared to its 5170 peer. One of the guys pointed out a popular reseller here listed one near 40k. I was a little surprised to see it listed nib for that number so soon with it being a Ltd rollout. Neil, our thesis may have holes. That said I think the msrp is up 2k already after only a few hit the US market so that helps I suppose.
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You called? I answer. I waited about 7 months for mine to arrive being told it’s one of the first to hit us market through an AD not boutique. The 1815 Black Dial chrono is a beauty and im very happy with it. This is a steal compared to its 5170 peer. One of the guys pointed out a popular reseller here listed one near 40k. I was a little surprised to see it listed nib for that number so soon with it being a Ltd rollout. Neil, our thesis may have holes. That said I think the msrp is up 2k already after only a few hit the US market so that helps I suppose.
Hardly any for sale here, large greys can source one for £31-5/$44-9K, why always us, probably best for yous to sell here.
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