You Might Want to Wait on That Batman

[Generation]

I talked to a salesperson at an AD today, and she said all the GMT models are getting the new movement this year. Has anyone else heard this?

[037]

ADs are always the first to know.

[air_king]

It would be worth waiting if that turns out to be true, which will only be verified when they start showing up at the ADs so good luck trying to find out.

[lguevara91]

Originally Posted by 037

ADs are always the first to know.

[Zakalwe]

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[beshannon]

Originally Posted by Generation

You Might Want to Wait on That Batman I talked to a salesperson at an AD today, and she said all the GMT models are getting the new movement this year. Has anyone else heard this?

Except this one because it is discontinued!

[Cryten]

Does that mean the value of the old ones will increase?
Should I invest in an old model?
If I had 3 old model BLNR's a Sea Dweller and 2 Daytonas what would they be worth in 7 years?
Will the new movement fit in the old case, and will Rolex to change it free of charge under warranty?
How much discount can I expect on the new model?

[JR16]

My guess would be that the BLNR gets discoed when this happens. But I’m not not not an AD.


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[beshannon]

Originally Posted by Cryten

Does that mean the value of the old ones will increase?
Should I invest in an old model?
If I had 3 old model BLNR's a Sea Dweller and 2 Daytonas what would they be worth in 7 years?
Will the new movement fit in the old case, and will Rolex to change it free of charge under warranty?
How much discount can I expect on the new model?

Only an AD knows the answers to these and other pressing questions

[HogwldFLTR]

There should be a section for AD inputs!!!! (and other lies)

[beshannon]

Originally Posted by HogwldFLTR

There should be a section for AD inputs!!!! (and other lies)

I have been saying this for quite a while, a rumors/pricing/AD sub forum

[Wrist Watcher]

Sweet shit on a stick make it stop.

[037]

Originally Posted by beshannon

I have been saying this for quite a while, a rumors/pricing/AD sub forum

Whatever. My AD said it first.

[Ballzzz]

Will it be blue? Will it have a clear case back to see the new movement in all its high reserve glory. If I wait am I guaranteed a new movement? Will there be a waitlist or should I just wait on my own list?

[joli160]

Dear OP, quite a lot of AD's are talking so much rubbish that hardly anybody here believes anything they say at all.
Also Rolex is known for total secrecy about new releases, policies or regardless what and certainly does not share any of this with their AD's.
It is safe to say that an AD claiming otherwise is living in a different world than the rest of us.
Many posts have been made about "my AD" , hence the cynicism

[watchbowl]

I don’t think many will ‘want’ to wait even longer for a Batman if they’re after one especially considering the current supply issues.

[Bigblu10]

Originally Posted by Generation

I talked to a salesperson at an AD today, and she said all the GMT models are getting the new movement this year. Has anyone else heard this?

We all heard it was discontinued!!!

[T01]

Frankly it would make sense for them to update eventually. I doubt anyone knows the timeline though.....

[Generation]

Keep in mind my title is just a title. If someone is in the market for a BLNR or LN, I think the person would be wise to contact an AD (or perhaps multiple ADs) to confirm this information.

All I know is that I was told by a salesperson at a respectable AD that all GMT models would be getting the new movement this year. The salesperson said this information came from Rolex.

[Swiss Mad!]

this thread is hilarious...

i am actually having a right good chucke at some of these replies..

[037]

Originally Posted by Generation

All I know is that I was told by a salesperson at a respectable AD that all GMT models would be getting the new movement this year. The salesperson said this information came directly from Rolex.

Ask her what she plans to do with her existing inventory of GMTs that she's sitting on if she keeps telling prospective buyers to wait for the new movement.

This is why Rolex doesn't tell ADs until inventory shows up.

[lecorsaire]

Really not a big deal. Mark I versions of sports models will usually always be more desirable in the long run. While the 3285 has a much longer power reserve, the truth is all Rolex's movements are great. If someone in the market for a BLNR gets offered one now they should take it.

[Generation]

Originally Posted by 037

Ask her what she plans to do with her existing inventory of GMTs that she's sitting on if she keeps telling prospective buyers to wait for the new movement.

This is why Rolex doesn't tell ADs until inventory shows up.

First, I believe the salesperson said they did not have any SS professional models currently in stock.

On your second point, where did you find out Rolex doesn't tell ADs anything until inventory shows up?

[037]

Originally Posted by Generation

First, I believe the salesperson said they did not have any SS professional models currently in stock.

What about PM and TT? They need to move those as well. They also have to move any SS models currently en-route.

Originally Posted by Generation

On your second point, where did you find out Rolex doesn't tell ADs anything until inventory shows up?

Would you believe me if I said my AD told me?

[MinMay]

Originally Posted by Cryten

Does that mean the value of the old ones will increase?

Should I invest in an old model?

If I had 3 old model BLNR's a Sea Dweller and 2 Daytonas what would they be worth in 7 years?

Will the new movement fit in the old case, and will Rolex to change it free of charge under warranty?

How much discount can I expect on the new model?

Really? You want to park your money in watches for 10 years. You do know that most of us can make more money than putting money into a luxury item. If it makes you happy then go for it.

[Generation]

Originally Posted by 037

What about PM and TT? They need to move those as well.


Would you believe me if I said my AD told me?

I do not know about PM and TT. You're right; as a business, they do need to move those as well.

If your AD told you that they only get information from Rolex when inventory shows up, people might believe you. But what makes you think all ADs get the same information?

[037]

Originally Posted by Generation

I do not know about PM and TT. You're right, as a business, they do need to move those as well.

That's why it doesn't pass the logic test. ADs worldwide are still receiving stainless LN and BLNR models every week. ADs are sitting on PM and TT models that they need to sell. If Rolex tells every AD that they're receiving outdated models, how will they ever sell them? If Rolex tells one AD but not another, how can they guarantee the info won't travel?

Originally Posted by Generation

But what makes you think all ADs are the same?

Because, as the adage goes, three people can keep a secret if two are dead. Rolex knows this.

Back when the 16710 GMTs and 16570 Explorer IIs saw 3186 movements and when the current DJ line saw new movements, ADs were never told until a memo arrived alongside the new inventory.

The chances of your sales lady knowing any of this before the rest of the world would be... well... unheard of.

[kauffee]

Originally Posted by Generation

All I know is that I was told by a salesperson at a respectable AD that all GMT models would be getting the new movement this year. The salesperson said this information came from Rolex.

Last time I was at a Rolex boutique the salesperson kept referring to the "904-eleven" steel that Rolex used.

Spend some time on these forums and you'll realize that salespeople at ADs are reliable sources of false information.

[Generation]

Originally Posted by 037

That's why it doesn't pass the logic test. ADs worldwide are still receiving stainless LN and BLNR models every week. ADs are sitting on PM and TT models that they need to sell. If Rolex tells every AD that they're receiving outdated models, how will they ever sell them? If Rolex tells one AD but not another, how can they guarantee the info won't travel?


Because, as the adage goes, three people can keep a secret if two are dead. Rolex knows this.

Back when the 16710 GMTs and 16570 Explorer IIs saw 3186 movements and when the current DJ line saw new movements, ADs were never told until a memo arrived alongside the new inventory.

Just because it doesn't pass your logic test doesn't mean it's not true. I can't tell you why the salesperson told me this information. Only she would be able to give you that information.

I'm not sure why you brought up that adage or how it applies.

If you could provide a source for your last point, that would be great. But, again, just because Rolex did something once doesn't mean they have to keep doing it again.

[Generation]

Originally Posted by kauffee

Last time I was at a Rolex boutique the salesperson kept referring to the "904-eleven" steel that Rolex used.

Spend some time on these forums and you'll realize that salespeople at ADs are reliable sources of false information.

So because some different salesperson once called "904L steel" "904-11 steel," the salesperson I was talking to today was mistaken?