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Stratos · 23 May 2018, 10:06 PM

It has been a year since I sold my last Rolex.

That was a Sub ND 114060.

Kinda missed wearing a watch on bracelet, after a year only on PAMs.
I want to buy one Rolex, as a summer/weekend watch.

I am thinking of buying it new and it must not have PCLs.
So no GMT for now.

I hate the hands on black-dial Exp II and prefer the 114060 over 116610.

Long story, short, my final vs. is between the Submariner ND and the Polar Explorer II.

Which one do you recommend and why?

Tele59 · 23 May 2018, 10:15 PM

Which one first, because you need both. I have the 114060 and I'm looking toward the polar (love the orange) AND the Milgauss blue. I've pondered trading the ND but I know I would regret doing so.

Hank · 23 May 2018, 10:36 PM

I went through the exact same predicament and went with the Sub ND. I really liked the fact that the Explorer II is less common plus it has the additional functions (GMT plus date), but in the end the ceramic bezel (scratch resistance) and the glidelock clasp won me over. You really can't go wrong with either.

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RHIII · 23 May 2018, 10:37 PM

114060 — it is my favorite modern Rolex and gets the most wrist time out of my collection — especially on weekends and vacations. It’s easy to set / change the time without having to worry about the date function - it goes with just about anything - and it has the classic Submariner look and dial symmetry. To me it is the staple Sub that never gets old.

Of all my watches I can easily say the watches that have gotten the most wrist time overall — 14060m and 114060.

Good luck!! Look forward to see which you choose!

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thesultan57 · 23 May 2018, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tele59

Which one first, because you need both. I have the 114060 and I'm looking toward the polar (love the orange) AND the Milgauss blue. I've pondered trading the ND but I know I would regret doing so.

For this choice - Polar Exp2 wins for sure. The white dial, orange hand and amazing colour that comes off the steel bracelet /case / bezel makes it a perfect summer watch. Especially if you will be spending more time outdoors active. The date and 24hr hand give it a tonne more practicality also.

Looking forward to getting a Milgaus Blue & BLNR when I can - pics of my trying my friends on!

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Stratos · 23 May 2018, 10:52 PM

As I told you had the 114060 and was really happy with it.

I just sold it so I can wear another watch

It got 100% of my wrist-time.

Never had any watch with GMT function and think that the Polar Exp II looks like a fun watch to own.

On the other hand while acquiring a new sport steel Rolex has become really hard in terms of availability, I think is a no-brainer to have the Sub ND.

Price is same for both as I have been quoted the Exp II with some discount.

watchwatcher · 23 May 2018, 11:05 PM

Polar all day over a ND, for me.

maximilianmuller · 23 May 2018, 11:08 PM

+ 10!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by hank

i went through the exact same predicament and went with the sub nd. I really liked the fact that the explorer ii is less common plus it has the additional functions (gmt plus date), but in the end the ceramic bezel (scratch resistance) and the glidelock clasp won me over. You really can't go wrong with either.

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T01 · 23 May 2018, 11:10 PM

114060

hx_ONG · 23 May 2018, 11:35 PM

polar!

Speed · 23 May 2018, 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stratos

Which one do you recommend and why?

What do you like best about each - and why?

Pick the one with the most likes.

nikesupremedunk · 23 May 2018, 11:55 PM

I was debating selling my ND for the polar recently but just couldn’t do it. The lug to lug was way too long for my 6.5” wrist. Since you already had the sub, might be fun to try out the polar this time around though.

SubMarin18 · 24 May 2018, 12:10 AM

114060, but I’m biased.

Stratos · 24 May 2018, 12:17 AM

Exp II is a more fun piece.

114060 is an all-time classic.

Sent by someone else.

81sforlife · 24 May 2018, 12:22 AM

Well I have a 114060 and am trying to decide if I want the Explorer II in Polar or Black for my next piece.

00Seven · 24 May 2018, 12:42 AM

I have both...if it was just a one-watch decision, I'd go 114060. More versatile. Polar EXP is a fun watch to mix it up with though.

Nikrnic · 24 May 2018, 12:43 AM

To me the Sub is the number one must have.

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SDDS17 · 24 May 2018, 12:48 AM

This one!

You · 24 May 2018, 01:07 AM

114060

azs.77 · 24 May 2018, 01:11 AM

114060 any day sir

Raza_actual · 24 May 2018, 01:14 AM

I tried the two on and the decision was clear as day. The 42mm Explorer doesn’t feel nearly as well proportioned as the Submariner, and as a guy who mostly wore 42mm and larger watches, the Submariner felt just right and the Explorer II felt a bit off. 114060 all the way.

Wrist Watcher · 24 May 2018, 01:15 AM

I've owned both at the same time and love both, but the 114060 quickly started getting much more wear so I let the polar go. I've almost re-acquired it a few times over the past few years, but I've been holding off in hopes that it gets a ceramic bezel. I love the ceramic bezels (personal preference) and prefer the slightly smaller size of the Sub. Both are fantastic though.

Rogdogg · 24 May 2018, 02:10 AM

For me the 216570 wins it.

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Marcus09 · 24 May 2018, 02:35 AM

I'd say the 114060 as well. Not fan of the Explorer II white or black bezel. The Rolex Submariner without date magnifier corresponds to the original model of 1954. It is arguably the most recognized, respected, and clandestinely reproduced wristwatch of the 20th (and 21st) century.
Mine says hi.

Let the Force be with you.

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brandrea · 24 May 2018, 02:38 AM

Since you had one go around with the Sub and it didn’t last, why not try the polar

Houston77 · 24 May 2018, 02:38 AM

Can’t go wrong with 114060, especially as a weekend/summer watch.

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enjoythemusic · 24 May 2018, 02:49 AM

Had same debate years ago.... Sub ND. Sooo classic. Also looks great with rubber strap or NATO if/when you want to change to look up.

Stratos · 28 June 2018, 05:32 PM

Thought about it over and over.

Tried the Polar Exp II and just didn't sing to me.
I have no problem wearing larger watches, as I am a Paneristi but this just seemed off-proportioned.

116710LN came to mind, again, just for a bit but PCLs are a no-go feature for me.

A couple of phonecalls, 2 weeks of waiting and BOOM!
A fresh out of factory, fully stickered 114060

This is the first time I am buying the same watch twice.
The aesthetics, versatility,build quality along with the extremely useful glidelock clasp tick all the boxes for me.

Really happy to own this watch once again.
Let's see if this is going to be a keeper after all!

Gerardus · 28 June 2018, 05:44 PM

Congratz

ashokleyland · 28 June 2018, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stratos

Thought about it over and over.

Tried the Polar Exp II and just didn't sing to me.
I have no problem wearing larger watches, as I am a Paneristi but this just seemed off-proportioned.

116710LN came to mind, again, just for a bit but PCLs are a no-go feature for me.

A couple of phonecalls, 2 weeks of waiting and BOOM!
A fresh out of factory, fully stickered 114060

This is the first time I am buying the same watch twice.
The aesthetics, versatility,build quality along with the extremely useful glidelock clasp tick all the boxes for me.

Really happy to own this watch once again.
Let's see if this is going to be a keeper after all!

That was fast, you are very lucky to find subc.

23 May 2018, 10:06 PM	#1
Stratos "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Real Name: Stratos Location: Thessaloniki, GR Watch: 114060 Posts: 223	114060 or 216570 Polar? It has been a year since I sold my last Rolex. That was a Sub ND 114060. Kinda missed wearing a watch on bracelet, after a year only on PAMs. I want to buy one Rolex, as a summer/weekend watch. I am thinking of buying it new and it must not have PCLs. So no GMT for now. I hate the hands on black-dial Exp II and prefer the 114060 over 116610. Long story, short, my final vs. is between the Submariner ND and the Polar Explorer II. Which one do you recommend and why?

23 May 2018, 11:35 PM	#10
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23 May 2018, 11:55 PM	#12
nikesupremedunk "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Real Name: Andrew Location: NYC Posts: 1,227	I was debating selling my ND for the polar recently but just couldn’t do it. The lug to lug was way too long for my 6.5” wrist. Since you already had the sub, might be fun to try out the polar this time around though. __________________ \| 116234 DJ36 \| 116610LN SubC \| 116520 Daytona \| BlackBay 58 Blue \|

24 May 2018, 01:14 AM	#21
Raza_actual "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Philadelphia Watch: Monaco Posts: 391	I tried the two on and the decision was clear as day. The 42mm Explorer doesn’t feel nearly as well proportioned as the Submariner, and as a guy who mostly wore 42mm and larger watches, the Submariner felt just right and the Explorer II felt a bit off. 114060 all the way. __________________ TAG Heuer Monaco LE\|Omega Speedmaster\|Tudor Ranger\|Rolex Submariner

24 May 2018, 01:15 AM	#22
Wrist Watcher 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: USA Watch: Hulk 116610LV Posts: 1,447	I've owned both at the same time and love both, but the 114060 quickly started getting much more wear so I let the polar go. I've almost re-acquired it a few times over the past few years, but I've been holding off in hopes that it gets a ceramic bezel. I love the ceramic bezels (personal preference) and prefer the slightly smaller size of the Sub. Both are fantastic though. __________________ Rolex Submariner 116610LV (Hulk) Rolex GMT Master II 126710BLRO (Pepsi) Rolex Daytona 116500LN (White)

23 May 2018, 10:15 PM	#2
Tele59 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: somewhere in USA Posts: 169	Which one first, because you need both. I have the 114060 and I'm looking toward the polar (love the orange) AND the Milgauss blue. I've pondered trading the ND but I know I would regret doing so.

23 May 2018, 10:36 PM	#3
Hank "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Shanghai Posts: 1,674	I went through the exact same predicament and went with the Sub ND. I really liked the fact that the Explorer II is less common plus it has the additional functions (GMT plus date), but in the end the ceramic bezel (scratch resistance) and the glidelock clasp won me over. You really can't go wrong with either. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

23 May 2018, 10:37 PM	#4
RHIII Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Real Name: Roger Location: ... Watch: AP/Rolex/PP Posts: 6,309	114060 — it is my favorite modern Rolex and gets the most wrist time out of my collection — especially on weekends and vacations. It’s easy to set / change the time without having to worry about the date function - it goes with just about anything - and it has the classic Submariner look and dial symmetry. To me it is the staple Sub that never gets old. Of all my watches I can easily say the watches that have gotten the most wrist time overall — 14060m and 114060. Good luck!! Look forward to see which you choose! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

23 May 2018, 10:52 PM	#6
Stratos "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Real Name: Stratos Location: Thessaloniki, GR Watch: 114060 Posts: 223	As I told you had the 114060 and was really happy with it. I just sold it so I can wear another watch It got 100% of my wrist-time. Never had any watch with GMT function and think that the Polar Exp II looks like a fun watch to own. On the other hand while acquiring a new sport steel Rolex has become really hard in terms of availability, I think is a no-brainer to have the Sub ND. Price is same for both as I have been quoted the Exp II with some discount.

23 May 2018, 11:05 PM	#7
watchwatcher "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Larry Location: Kentucky Watch: Yes Posts: 35,044	Polar all day over a ND, for me.

23 May 2018, 11:10 PM	#9
T01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Real Name: T Location: AZ, NV, CA Posts: 6,490	114060

24 May 2018, 12:10 AM	#13
SubMarin18 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Real Name: Pete Location: USA Watch: 114060 Posts: 315	114060, but I’m biased.

24 May 2018, 12:17 AM	#14
Stratos "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Real Name: Stratos Location: Thessaloniki, GR Watch: 114060 Posts: 223	Exp II is a more fun piece. 114060 is an all-time classic. Sent by someone else.

24 May 2018, 12:22 AM	#15
81sforlife "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Real Name: J Location: CO Watch: Sub & ExpII Posts: 555	Well I have a 114060 and am trying to decide if I want the Explorer II in Polar or Black for my next piece.

24 May 2018, 12:42 AM	#16
00Seven "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: Nick Location: Kennesaw, GA Watch: Omega Posts: 825	I have both...if it was just a one-watch decision, I'd go 114060. More versatile. Polar EXP is a fun watch to mix it up with though.

24 May 2018, 12:43 AM	#17
Nikrnic "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Real Name: Louis Nick Ric Location: Michigan, USA Watch: Blnr, Expll, Subs, Posts: 10,172	To me the Sub is the number one must have. Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk

24 May 2018, 12:48 AM	#18
SDDS17 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Arizona Watch: EXP2-42, DJ2, SMPO Posts: 347	This one!

24 May 2018, 01:07 AM	#19
You "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Beverly Hills, CA Watch: Platinum Daytona Posts: 785	114060

24 May 2018, 01:11 AM	#20
azs.77 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: USA/Canada Watch: Rolex, AP, Panerai Posts: 823	114060 any day sir

24 May 2018, 02:10 AM	#23
Rogdogg 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Bangkok Posts: 6,124	For me the 216570 wins it. Sent from my SM-N920C using Tapatalk __________________ Nil Satis Nisi Optimum

24 May 2018, 02:35 AM	#24
Marcus09 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Batman Location: Gotham City Posts: 1,184	114060 or 216570 Polar? I'd say the 114060 as well. Not fan of the Explorer II white or black bezel. The Rolex Submariner without date magnifier corresponds to the original model of 1954. It is arguably the most recognized, respected, and clandestinely reproduced wristwatch of the 20th (and 21st) century. Mine says hi. Let the Force be with you. Sent from my iPhone X using Tapatalk __________________

24 May 2018, 02:38 AM	#25
brandrea 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 78,080	Since you had one go around with the Sub and it didn’t last, why not try the polar

24 May 2018, 02:38 AM	#26
Houston77 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Houston Posts: 2,653	Can’t go wrong with 114060, especially as a weekend/summer watch. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

24 May 2018, 02:49 AM	#27
enjoythemusic 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Real Name: Steven Location: Glocal Posts: 21,164	Had same debate years ago.... Sub ND. Sooo classic. Also looks great with rubber strap or NATO if/when you want to change to look up. __________________ __________________ ----> Was Great Seeing Everyone At The TRF December 9 Tampa Meetup <---- https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=968133 Love timepieces and want to become a Watchmaker? Rolex has a sensational school. www.RolexWatchmakingTrainingCenter.com/ Sent from my Etch A Sketch using String Theory.

28 June 2018, 05:32 PM	#28
Stratos "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Real Name: Stratos Location: Thessaloniki, GR Watch: 114060 Posts: 223	Thought about it over and over. Tried the Polar Exp II and just didn't sing to me. I have no problem wearing larger watches, as I am a Paneristi but this just seemed off-proportioned. 116710LN came to mind, again, just for a bit but PCLs are a no-go feature for me. A couple of phonecalls, 2 weeks of waiting and BOOM! A fresh out of factory, fully stickered 114060 This is the first time I am buying the same watch twice. The aesthetics, versatility,build quality along with the extremely useful glidelock clasp tick all the boxes for me. Really happy to own this watch once again. Let's see if this is going to be a keeper after all!

28 June 2018, 05:44 PM	#29
Gerardus "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: Gerardus Location: often in the air Watch: ♕ Posts: 12,142	Congratz __________________ ♕126610 ♕126333 ♕116300

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