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hhtwaijri · 20 June 2018, 11:32 PM

Hello,

This will be my first ever discussion, great to be in such a community.

I'm a big fan of Rolex. Big fan of their sports watches. But I never owned one... I have a Daytona, I have an Explorer i... But never a Submariner or GMT.

As I grew older, I realized more and more that the Sub and GMT (I'll call them sports watches from now on) have such a beautiful design. The size is just perfect, the bezels are incredibly attractive to the eye... Just sublime !!

I saved enough money to buy one. But I only wanted the pre-maxi case sports watch, but the flimsy bracelet was a disappointing feature. That made me look into the discontinued SD4K, as it has all the new features like the ceramic bezel and an incredibly solid bracelet, but also has the smaller lugs, like the cases from yester-year.

I got the SD50, thinking maybe It'll grow on me... But it didn't, at all... 43 mm is not for me. So I went to sell it, and the AD gave me a 2003 no holes Pepsi GMT, telling me to keep it for a week in hopes he can sell it to me if I like it... Well, I LOVED IT !!... Incredible piece, the size and proportions are impeccable.

My concerns are, 1) the bracelet (of course) 2) its in too good of a condition to be unpolished, as the AD claims. 3) I'm looking for watch that can take some abuse, I'm sure '03 Rolex watches are tough enough, but 2017 Sea Dweller is practically a rock.

Should I get the GMT (it's a Pepsi on Jubilee, need i say more?), or a NOS SD4K as a watch for daily use and abuse ?

Sorry to blab so much, just felt the need to explain my issue.

Thanks!

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henrylee · 21 June 2018, 12:28 AM

If you like the 16710 then that would be my choice. The 5 digit case is charming and the added function is very nice.

hhtwaijri · 22 June 2018, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by henrylee

If you like the 16710 then that would be my choice. The 5 digit case is charming and the added function is very nice.

I did like the the added function more than I thought i would, quite useful.

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watchmework · 21 June 2018, 12:37 AM

SD4K but I’m a fan of the SD over the GMT in general.

SG56 · 21 June 2018, 12:39 AM

NOS SD4K would be my choice.
5 digits GMT will keep popping up. SD4K is a lot harder to find at the moment.

superstarmar · 23 June 2018, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SG56

NOS SD4K would be my choice.
5 digits GMT will keep popping up. SD4K is a lot harder to find at the moment.

SD4K 116600 for the win and wrist presence ...

dmhines · 21 June 2018, 12:45 AM

I switch between my Milgauss and 5 digit GMT II all the time ... after 10 seconds you forget about the difference in bracelet weight.

gaeleus · 21 June 2018, 02:05 AM

I can tell you which i like. The real question is what do you like. Its your wrist and your wallet.

PJitz · 21 June 2018, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gaeleus

I can tell you which i like. The real question is what do you like. Its your wrist and your wallet.

+1, if you don't know what you want on your wrist we can't help you much

Armyguy03 · 21 June 2018, 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hhtwaijri

...the AD gave me a 2003 no holes Pepsi GMT, telling me to keep it for a week in hopes he can sell it to me if I like it... Well, I LOVED IT !!...

You loved the Pepsi.

shalako · 21 June 2018, 03:03 AM

SD4K, especially as your fortunate enough to be able to get one new old stock.

hhtwaijri · 23 June 2018, 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Armyguy03

You loved the Pepsi.

The size and weight and color... All feel retro, nothing shiny. Brushed steel and manhood.

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Shiny1 · 21 June 2018, 03:04 AM

It depends on what you really like, you're in the best position to make a decision

lcs77 · 21 June 2018, 10:20 AM

Sd4k

douglasf13 · 21 June 2018, 10:23 AM

When it comes to bracelets, the lighter and more lithe the better. Not only do I prefer the 5-digit bracelets to the 6-digit, but I prefer folded links bracelets to the bracelets that come on the 5-digit watches.

hhtwaijri · 23 June 2018, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by douglasf13

When it comes to bracelets, the lighter and more lithe the better. Not only do I prefer the 5-digit bracelets to the 6-digit, but I prefer folded links bracelets to the bracelets that come on the 5-digit watches.

You prefer folded links ?... Never heard anyone say that before!... Didn't the stretch bother you?

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Speed · 21 June 2018, 11:00 AM

What wrong with the bracelet?

hhtwaijri · 23 June 2018, 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speed

What wrong with the bracelet?

Flimsy and clanky..
Newer bracelets are thicker, more solid, and have a great clasp.

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Nikrnic · 21 June 2018, 11:05 AM

SD4K

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mph90 · 21 June 2018, 06:09 PM

It is possible to use your Explorer’s braclet (assuming newer Explorer I) with the 16710 Pepsi. You just need new springbars

hhtwaijri · 23 June 2018, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by mph90

It is possible to use your Explorer’s braclet (assuming newer Explorer I) with the 16710 Pepsi. You just need new springbars

I can do that ?... It fits ?!?!... Im listening...

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mph90 · 12 July 2018, 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by hhtwaijri

I can do that ?... It fits ?!?!... Im listening...

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This worked for me!

Check out post 475447.

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cop414 · 12 July 2018, 07:02 AM

The round “dent” on the dial is normal.

Toivonen · 21 June 2018, 08:44 PM

HEV always wins vs everything

hhtwaijri · 23 June 2018, 03:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toivonen

HEV always wins vs everything

I'm not a diver or anything of that sort. But it just feels great having a watch ready for the occasion

That HEV is a touch of genius.

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hhtwaijri · 23 June 2018, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toivonen

HEV always wins vs everything

I'm not a diver, or have anything to do with aquatics. But it does feel nice having a watch ready for the occasion.

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sugarl4nd · 21 June 2018, 10:05 PM

I was at the same situation, if you can keep both would be the way to do. 116600 is investment piece. But I decided to let 116600 go, prinary reason is fitment to my wrist, 16710 just perfect. Hence, I choose 16710.

If your wrist can rock 116600 and you are ok with thickness + weight, I would choose SD4K.

1William · 21 June 2018, 10:34 PM

I guess a lot of it would have to do with the price. If you could keep the GMT and add a SS Submariner ND into the deal for the SD43 then you would be good. Think the money may be a little off though. I have a friend the sold his SD43 back to a TS that was a year old and got 12k for it. Be careful that you don't get taken on the deal. The SD43, as well as other Rolex watches, are 62% of retail for the cost to the dealer. So figure what the AD had in the watch originally and see what he is doing with a deal. Good luck.

TK-710 · 21 June 2018, 10:45 PM

I own the SD4K and pretty much wear it 24/7. Depending on what I’m doing at the gym that day I might take it off (I wouldn’t wear any watch then) but otherwise I do everything else with it on. I find it extremely comfortable and it’s been up to every task I’ve thrown at it. For me it’s the perfect watch. With that being said based on your write up it sounds like you really like the GMT. Trust your opinion not mine.

samson66 · 21 June 2018, 10:49 PM

I would stick with the GMT. The GMT will wear smaller and much lighter so it depends on what you are looking for.

The SD4000 is similar in weight to the SD43, so if you didn't like the 43 you may not like the 4000 either. It's going to sit up higher and be significantly heavier than the GMT

You have any pictures of the GMT and/or the SD43 on your wrist?

20 June 2018, 11:32 PM	#1
hhtwaijri "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Kuwait Posts: 185	Dilemma - Sea Dweller 116600 vs. Pepsi 16710 Hello, This will be my first ever discussion, great to be in such a community. I'm a big fan of Rolex. Big fan of their sports watches. But I never owned one... I have a Daytona, I have an Explorer i... But never a Submariner or GMT. As I grew older, I realized more and more that the Sub and GMT (I'll call them sports watches from now on) have such a beautiful design. The size is just perfect, the bezels are incredibly attractive to the eye... Just sublime !! I saved enough money to buy one. But I only wanted the pre-maxi case sports watch, but the flimsy bracelet was a disappointing feature. That made me look into the discontinued SD4K, as it has all the new features like the ceramic bezel and an incredibly solid bracelet, but also has the smaller lugs, like the cases from yester-year. I got the SD50, thinking maybe It'll grow on me... But it didn't, at all... 43 mm is not for me. So I went to sell it, and the AD gave me a 2003 no holes Pepsi GMT, telling me to keep it for a week in hopes he can sell it to me if I like it... Well, I LOVED IT !!... Incredible piece, the size and proportions are impeccable. My concerns are, 1) the bracelet (of course) 2) its in too good of a condition to be unpolished, as the AD claims. 3) I'm looking for watch that can take some abuse, I'm sure '03 Rolex watches are tough enough, but 2017 Sea Dweller is practically a rock. Should I get the GMT (it's a Pepsi on Jubilee, need i say more?), or a NOS SD4K as a watch for daily use and abuse ? Sorry to blab so much, just felt the need to explain my issue. Thanks! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

21 June 2018, 12:28 AM	#2
henrylee "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Socal/LA Watch: 116610LN Ceramic Posts: 3,223	If you like the 16710 then that would be my choice. The 5 digit case is charming and the added function is very nice. __________________ ♛ Sub 116610LN 2011 ♛ GMT 126710BLNR 2021 ♛ GMT 126711CHNR 2020 ♛ Datejust 16233 X-series 1993 Ω Speedmaster Mitsukoshi 2019 č Cartier Tank w5200025 2021

21 June 2018, 12:39 AM	#5
SG56 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Tampa Watch: SD4K Posts: 2,674	NOS SD4K would be my choice. 5 digits GMT will keep popping up. SD4K is a lot harder to find at the moment. __________________ Sea-Dweller 116600 - the manly one GMT II 16710 - the manly one Daytona 116500 - the manly-womanly one Yacht-Master 268622 - the chick version Speedy Mitsukoshi <3 Tag Heuer Aquaracer WAF141C.BA0824 - the chick version Thank you logan5tx!!! Have to link it. Too long for the signature. https://www.rolexforums.com/showpost...0&postcount=14

21 June 2018, 12:45 AM	#7
dmhines "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Florida Watch: Hulk Posts: 476	I switch between my Milgauss and 5 digit GMT II all the time ... after 10 seconds you forget about the difference in bracelet weight. __________________ . Hulk / RootBeer / Explorer

21 June 2018, 10:20 AM	#14
lcs77 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Earth Posts: 514	Sd4k __________________ 116515LN - 116600 SD4K - 116710BLNR Batman - 116610LV Hulk - 16013 Datejust - 116500LN Black - 116500LN White - 126710BLRO Pepsi Jubilee - 126610LV - 126710BLRO Pepsi Oyster - Hublot Bigbang Unico - 226570 Polar

21 June 2018, 12:37 AM	#4
watchmework "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: DC Watch: 126710BLRO, 116600 Posts: 7,869	SD4K but I’m a fan of the SD over the GMT in general.

21 June 2018, 02:05 AM	#8
gaeleus "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: texas Posts: 281	I can tell you which i like. The real question is what do you like. Its your wrist and your wallet.

21 June 2018, 03:03 AM	#11
shalako "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: UK Posts: 623	SD4K, especially as your fortunate enough to be able to get one new old stock.

21 June 2018, 03:04 AM	#13
Shiny1 Banned Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: USA Posts: 114	It depends on what you really like, you're in the best position to make a decision

21 June 2018, 10:23 AM	#15
douglasf13 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: USA Posts: 5,622	When it comes to bracelets, the lighter and more lithe the better. Not only do I prefer the 5-digit bracelets to the 6-digit, but I prefer folded links bracelets to the bracelets that come on the 5-digit watches.

21 June 2018, 11:00 AM	#17
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,706	What wrong with the bracelet?

21 June 2018, 11:05 AM	#19
Nikrnic "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Real Name: Louis Nick Ric Location: Michigan, USA Watch: Blnr, Expll, Subs, Posts: 10,172	SD4K Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk

21 June 2018, 06:09 PM	#20
mph90 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Norway Posts: 10	It is possible to use your Explorer’s braclet (assuming newer Explorer I) with the 16710 Pepsi. You just need new springbars Last edited by mph90; 21 June 2018 at 06:10 PM.. Reason: Forgot braclet

12 July 2018, 07:02 AM	#23
cop414 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Tim Location: Pennsylvania Watch: 14060M Posts: 72,234	The round “dent” on the dial is normal. __________________ Rolex Submariner 14060M Omega Seamaster 2254.50 DOXA Professional 1200T Card carrying member of TRF's Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons TRF's "After Dark" Bar & NightClub Patron P Club Member #17 2 FA ENABLED

21 June 2018, 08:44 PM	#24
Toivonen "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Vittorio Location: Italy Watch: SeaDweller Deepsea Posts: 1,001	HEV always wins vs everything __________________ No HEV? No Party!!! If you LOVE the Sea Dweller... Join the "BDV" https://www.instagram.com/bandadellavalvola/ https://www.facebook.com/bandadellavalvola/ http://orologi.forumfree.it/?t=75294392

21 June 2018, 10:05 PM	#27
sugarl4nd "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 67	I was at the same situation, if you can keep both would be the way to do. 116600 is investment piece. But I decided to let 116600 go, prinary reason is fitment to my wrist, 16710 just perfect. Hence, I choose 16710. If your wrist can rock 116600 and you are ok with thickness + weight, I would choose SD4K.

21 June 2018, 10:34 PM	#28
1William 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: North Carolina Watch: Rolex/Others Posts: 47,764	I guess a lot of it would have to do with the price. If you could keep the GMT and add a SS Submariner ND into the deal for the SD43 then you would be good. Think the money may be a little off though. I have a friend the sold his SD43 back to a TS that was a year old and got 12k for it. Be careful that you don't get taken on the deal. The SD43, as well as other Rolex watches, are 62% of retail for the cost to the dealer. So figure what the AD had in the watch originally and see what he is doing with a deal. Good luck.

21 June 2018, 10:45 PM	#29
TK-710 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Upstate Watch: 116600 Posts: 2,156	I own the SD4K and pretty much wear it 24/7. Depending on what I’m doing at the gym that day I might take it off (I wouldn’t wear any watch then) but otherwise I do everything else with it on. I find it extremely comfortable and it’s been up to every task I’ve thrown at it. For me it’s the perfect watch. With that being said based on your write up it sounds like you really like the GMT. Trust your opinion not mine.

21 June 2018, 10:49 PM	#30
samson66 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Mike Location: Downy Ocean Hon Watch: my money leaving! Posts: 13,791	I would stick with the GMT. The GMT will wear smaller and much lighter so it depends on what you are looking for. The SD4000 is similar in weight to the SD43, so if you didn't like the 43 you may not like the 4000 either. It's going to sit up higher and be significantly heavier than the GMT You have any pictures of the GMT and/or the SD43 on your wrist?

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