At the AD, and a Tudor is offered

[KarlTheToyotaGuy]

I’m looking to pick up a BB58 in the future, so I’m in the process of building a relationship with a Tudor AD.

As a bit of time went on, I was offered a Tudor BBB with the ETA movement on the twill strap and leather for $2,500. What say the hive? Decent buy at the price, or pass?

Is the ETA or the in-house movement stronger? Watch will be used during outdoor activities.

[Ssunnylee24]

You dont need to purchase a watch(hve relationship) to buy a 58.

[KarlTheToyotaGuy]

Originally Posted by Ssunnylee24

You dont need to purchase a watch(hve relationship) to buy a 58.

Correct, but service goes a long way and may move me higher in the que ;)

[rolexinfl]

Originally Posted by KarlTheToyotaGuy

I’m looking to pick up a BB58 in the future, so I’m in the process of building a relationship with a Tudor AD.

As a bit of time went on, I was offered a Tudor BBB with the ETA movement on the twill strap and leather for $2,500. What say the hive? Decent buy at the price, or pass?

Is the ETA or the in-house movement stronger? Watch will be used during outdoor activities.

IIRC the Tudor ETA is modified ETA, but not COSC i dont think?

Versus the in-house movement which has the silicone balance spring, 70hr power reserve and is COSC. IMO the ETA is a neat collector piece with the rose logo on the face, but the in-house movement is better.

YMMV

[Ssunnylee24]

Originally Posted by KarlTheToyotaGuy

Correct, but service goes a long way and may move me higher in the que ;)

If buying a watch gets you higher in que is the case, I would go else where. You could always be the one to be pushed back in que in the future.

[jsg1976]

Buy it if you actually want the watch, but not worth it otherwise


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[samson66]

Love my BB ETA but if you want the 58, wait for the 58.

That is a good price though... I paid $2,900 for mine on steel

[KarlTheToyotaGuy]

Originally Posted by rolexinfl

IIRC the Tudor ETA is modified ETA, but not COSC i dont think?

Versus the in-house movement which has the silicone balance spring, 70hr power reserve and is COSC. IMO the ETA is a neat collector piece with the rose logo on the face, but the in-house movement is better.

YMMV

From what I’ve read in the past 10 minutes, it’s a modified top grade ETA, but correct that it’s not COSC.

[KarlTheToyotaGuy]

Originally Posted by Ssunnylee24

If buying a watch gets you higher in que is the case, I would go else where. You could always be the one to be pushed back in que in the future.

True story. A Tudor can be purchased anytime, but sometimes I’m impacient That is definitely a possibility.

[KarlTheToyotaGuy]

Originally Posted by jsg1976

Buy it if you actually want the watch, but not worth it otherwise


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[KarlTheToyotaGuy]

Originally Posted by samson66

Love my BB ETA but if you want the 58, wait for the 58.

That is a good price though... I paid $2,900 for mine on steel

It’s never not the time for another watch

If I could get it on steel for $2,500 it would be a no-brainer, and I prefer bracelets. Maybe time to go to some other AD’s and see what happens!!

[samson66]

Originally Posted by KarlTheToyotaGuy

It’s never not the time for another watch

If I could get it on steel for $2,500 it would be a no-brainer, and I prefer bracelets. Maybe time to go to some other AD’s and see what happens!!

Well this is true. The two watches could coexist nicely. The larger BB41 on leather strap with the smaller BB58 on steel. Would be two totally different personality watches.

In the Rolex world (and I can't believe I'm saying this) $2,500 is not a lot of money so maybe go ahead and get both!

[samson66]

...and to answer your other question, the ETA seems to be more sought after due to the rose/smiley dial and the thinner profile. Many require regulation to get them to keep really good time however. Mine averages about 14 sec fast per day. Once regulated other board member say they keep very good time.

[GradyPhilpott]

Building a relationship doesn't necessarily mean spending money on things you don't need or want.

It just means showing up often enough that the staff knows you and showing an interest in the brand, letting the staff know what you're interested in, and that you're ready to pounce when the time comes.

It also doesn't hurt to put some money down on the watch you want in good faith, provided that there is a reasonable expectation that the watch will show up sooner rather than later.

These things have always worked for me.

[HogwldFLTR]

I think the ETA watches are slightly more desirable than the in house ones. I also think that the Blue is the least sought after in the ETAs with the black leading the charge. The Blue on the other hand is likely the least contrived and most standard looking of the variants. If you like the blue it's a good choice. If it isn't something you really want then let it go.

[GB-man]

They had it in the back? Lol price sounds fair it you want it Karl.

[henrylee]

At this time the ETA with rose dial is more favored.

[Rashid.bk]

Do you want the watch, all other conditions aside.....then buy it. I buy what I want because I want it, if it helps in a relationship cool, if not so what. I'd buy the watch I really want while moving through an international airport I may never see again if the watch is there.

[Rrpdc]

Originally Posted by rolexinfl

IIRC the Tudor ETA is modified ETA, but not COSC i dont think?

Versus the in-house movement which has the silicone balance spring, 70hr power reserve and is COSC. IMO the ETA is a neat collector piece with the rose logo on the face, but the in-house movement is better.

+1.


Pass.

[op90no2]

I have a Black Bay 36, purchased last September. It keeps superb time. It's not as position-independent as my Rolex, which is a good thing. Alternating between crown-up and face-up at night I can keep the time spot-on indefinitely. Even without doing that it does around +- 1 second per day, FWIW.

[KarlTheToyotaGuy]

After going home and thinking about it, if I were to go with the Tudor BB, I would need to buy a bracelet for it. I’m a bracelet only guy typically. That’s an additional $500 (est).

So now I’m at $3k. If I could pick and choose, I would have the black dial and bezel.

After another phone call, I am offered the new in-house BBN for $3,100. Now this is really tempting.

[op90no2]

Just remember the in-house BB is thicker, if that matters to you. It does to me.

IMHO the watches aren't so different that it makes sense to have both -- unless you plan to build a large, fine-grained collection.

The Fifty-Eights will be here soon enough. Perhaps best to live with your impacience while you wait in the que, as it were.

[Nikrnic]

I sold my BB inhouse, it was just too bulky and bought a new BB eta on bracelet from a private seller for 2700. but I wouldn't think you'd have to build a relationship for a 58 Once they finally hit I'm sure they'll be hot for a minute but nothing like Rolex

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[faz]

Forget about building a relationship for a Tudor. (But you did say you might not be patient.)

FYI, I recently bought a BBR ETA on bracelet. Could have bought the in house movement for a few hundred more, but I wanted to have the old smiley face dial, and rose, and non-riveted bracelet, all personal choice.

[toolr]

Originally Posted by KarlTheToyotaGuy

I’m looking to pick up a BB58 in the future, so I’m in the process of building a relationship with a Tudor AD.

As a bit of time went on, I was offered a Tudor BBB with the ETA movement on the twill strap and leather for $2,500. What say the hive? Decent buy at the price, or pass?

Is the ETA or the in-house movement stronger? Watch will be used during outdoor activities.

Good price if you're looking for the Blue bezel, I would prefer the Black though.

[J!m]

I feel the eta version wears better.

I’ve not seen much to make me “must have” the in house movement. Tudors have had etas for decades. And for those “speculators” out there, the first gen thin eta models will be the hot ticket in 10-20 years.

[KarlTheToyotaGuy]

One more in person visit, fitting, and test, (and further negotiation) and it seems as though I’m the owner of a Tudor BBN on a bracelet with the in house movement!

I don’t know if it will be permanent, but it will hopefully be here for quite a bit!

[c41006]

Originally Posted by KarlTheToyotaGuy

One more in person visit, fitting, and test, (and further negotiation) and it seems as though I’m the owner of a Tudor BBN on a bracelet with the in house movement!

I don’t know if it will be permanent, but it will hopefully be here for quite a bit!

Congrats!

[Raza_actual]

Overall, the ETA is just a better, more wearable watch.

[KarlTheToyotaGuy]

Originally Posted by Raza_actual

Overall, the ETA is just a better, more wearable watch.

Most likely. My left cuff will fit a DSSD and still look at home with my 36mm Datejust, I think it will be fine.

As for the movement, we shall see! Whoohoo warranties!

As is always true, the best deals are made in person. At the price point that it was acquired, If I don’t like it over time, it will find a new home at a fair price for the buyer and for I.