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mr.president1 · 25 July 2018, 11:26 AM

Enjoying the new 126231 Datejust TT In Everose 18ct gold/SS 36mm! Went into my AD to see if I could buy the jubilee bracelet to go along with the oyster bracelet that came with my new watch. They said they won’t just sell me the bracelet, and that Rolex requires that I send mine back to them and buy a whole new one. This means that I’d have to forefeit the value of mine, and buy a new one. Their reasoning was that people are buying fake watches and want to fit their fake cases with real bracelets, which I think is BS.

1.) is that Rolex AD bologna
2.) If it’s true, do I get a pro-rated deal for giving them mine
3.) love both bracelets, just want to add a jubilee. Can it be sourced privately?

Thanks all!!

offrdmania · 25 July 2018, 11:28 AM

This has been the case since June 2017. You usually have to source the bracelet privately

J!m · 25 July 2018, 11:31 AM

You could try brining the watch head only in and see “what bracelets fit” your watch... maybe try a different AD if they know you where you had asked.

It’s worth a shot anyway.

David5807 · 25 July 2018, 01:01 PM

I've heard this same story from other ADs. I think it's true.

Bigblu10 · 25 July 2018, 01:06 PM

Best bet is one of the sellers in the Rolex parts/accessories sub-forum. But you better be prepared to pay the big $$. Most likely 5K or more for that bracelet.

Easy E · 25 July 2018, 01:11 PM

I have been given the same story from 3 different ADs regarding a DJ41 stainless. I wanted both the oyster and the jubilee, no dice.

Ps. It is BS

MIKE84 · 25 July 2018, 01:19 PM

If a DJ has an oyster bracelet can a jubilee actually be fitted?

Easy E · 25 July 2018, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIKE84

If a DJ has an oyster bracelet can a jubilee actually be fitted?

Yep

joli160 · 25 July 2018, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIKE84

If a DJ has an oyster bracelet can a jubilee actually be fitted?

Yes

Digitran · 25 July 2018, 04:51 PM

I do not think the story is BS. I have seen enough posts in forums I should not mention where members are looking to buy original parts, e.g. date wheels, to make their watches look "gen"

lecorsaire · 26 July 2018, 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Digitran

I do not think the story is BS. I have seen enough posts in forums I should not mention where members are looking to buy original parts, e.g. date wheels, to make their watches look "gen"

It is not BS. There are many people out there who take a high quality replica and put genuine crystals, bezels, date wheels (if it fits) and whatever else that they can fit. The Chinese have really wreaked havoc on the watch industry with all these damn fakes. When they were completely garbage (not that fakes are ever not) it wasn't so problematic since they just didn't look real no matter what.

Mephist · 26 July 2018, 04:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lecorsaire

It is not BS. There are many people out there who take a high quality replica and put genuine crystals, bezels, date wheels (if it fits) and whatever else that they can fit. The Chinese have really wreaked havoc on the watch industry with all these damn fakes. When they were completely garbage (not that fakes are ever not) it wasn't so problematic since they just didn't look real no matter what.

As Lecorsaire said, you can now even order replicas and choose more or less any real Rolex part you want to the point where the only fake thing is the movement. Making it almost impossible to spot a fake unless you open it. I believe in the future Rolex will be even stricter on AD's letting people walk out with spare parts.

Fujiman · 25 July 2018, 01:20 PM

So Rolex wants to steal your existing bracelet in order to sell you an overpriced new one? Is that not your answer to look elsewhere?

Likestheshiny · 25 July 2018, 01:25 PM

Rolex has always done everything possible to prevent "extra" parts from getting out. Imagine how hard it would be to detect a fake with a real dial and bezel on a real bracelet -- and those parts cost much less than a genuine Rolex would, so there's definitely money to be made by scammers.

Overall, Rolex is pretty generous in their "switching out" policies -- as long as it's an option for your model, they'll do it. Not many other brands allow that at all, or make it so easy.

mr.president1 · 26 July 2018, 03:27 AM

Thank you all for the input! Maybe I’ll just add another at some point or figure out a way to source privately. One member above said said something on the lines of trying to send the face in to see if they’ll fit one for it - might try that option to see if I get a bite. I guess I shouldn’t be surprised about Rolex doing this, but it’s super annoying

GreatScott · 26 July 2018, 03:31 AM

Yep, same story here.

I started a thread about after market bracelets on WUS and a lot of people are resident to the thought but there is no alternative. Rolex doesn't want our cash I guess.

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lecorsaire · 26 July 2018, 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr.president1

Enjoying the new 126231 Datejust TT In Everose 18ct gold/SS 36mm! Went into my AD to see if I could buy the jubilee bracelet to go along with the oyster bracelet that came with my new watch. They said they won’t just sell me the bracelet, and that Rolex requires that I send mine back to them and buy a whole new one. This means that I’d have to forefeit the value of mine, and buy a new one. Their reasoning was that people are buying fake watches and want to fit their fake cases with real bracelets, which I think is BS.

1.) is that Rolex AD bologna
2.) If it’s true, do I get a pro-rated deal for giving them mine
3.) love both bracelets, just want to add a jubilee. Can it be sourced privately?

Thanks all!!

Why don't you put the watch on leather or rubber, go to a different AD that you've never been to and tell them that you bought it like this from someone? I can't see why they would refuse selling you a bracelet at full price. Obviously they would want to keep the one on the watch you're bring in just like they would keep the dial, bezel, crown or pretty much any part they replace.

fskywalker · 26 July 2018, 04:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr.president1

Enjoying the new 126231 Datejust TT In Everose 18ct gold/SS 36mm! Went into my AD to see if I could buy the jubilee bracelet to go along with the oyster bracelet that came with my new watch. They said they won’t just sell me the bracelet, and that Rolex requires that I send mine back to them and buy a whole new one. This means that I’d have to forefeit the value of mine, and buy a new one. Their reasoning was that people are buying fake watches and want to fit their fake cases with real bracelets, which I think is BS.

1.) is that Rolex AD bologna
2.) If it’s true, do I get a pro-rated deal for giving them mine
3.) love both bracelets, just want to add a jubilee. Can it be sourced privately?

Thanks all!!

Your best bet would be to go to a Rolex Service Center with the head only and say you want to buy the jubilee bracelet for it. (don't say you have the oyster, say you bought it on a leather strap / misplaced etc.)

If the model was available with both options (oyster and jubilee) they will probably let you buy it, but be prepare as other said to pay top dollar for it

lecorsaire · 26 July 2018, 04:15 AM

It has to be a $4.5-5k (if not more) bracelet for sure with the 18k rose gold which is a little bit more than yellow. The regular PCL steel Oysters are a little under $2k I believe with the Daytona bracelet being the priciest and the solid gold Oysters and Presidents are probably north of $10k going by the retail difference on leather vs. bracelet for a new DD36.

Andrew NYC · 26 July 2018, 04:44 AM

The suggestion of going to a RSC makes sense as I brought in my 36mm Day-Date a few years back to the NYC RSC and asked about other strap and dial options. They presented me with a variety of options for both. For straps I had the choice of black/brown lizard or croc with a gold filled or 18K gold Rolex pin buckle. For the dials the choice was much greater. Also they were willing to allow me to keep my existing dial (the bracelet of course I would keep) if I paid an additional dial charge. Also they said that they would have to install the strap and buckle for as I could not just purchase it separately.

The prices at that time were:
Trade in dial - $600.00 for a non diamond dial and $90 for new hands (required) plus a labor fee of $150. Don't recall what the price was for keeping my original dial.

Strap/Buckle - Plated buckle was $66 and 18K was $825 (they looked identical). Strap was $360 for the alligator and $180 for the lizard.

-andrew

droptopman · 26 July 2018, 06:26 AM

I sent a watch in (16570) with no bracelet to RSC Dallas and purchased a new bracelet for it. They gave me the option of a 78790 with end links or a 78790A with fixed end links. I told them I bought the watch head only which was true.

Maybe try that. Contact RSC Dallas and see what they say.
Rolex Watch U.S.A., Inc.
Dallas Service Center
2651 North Harwood, Dallas, TX 75201
Phone: (214) 871-0500 Fax: (214) 871-2767

GoingPlaces · 26 July 2018, 06:38 AM

Not BS, Rolex policy. You will need to source one. If an AD can find one for you great, but it won't come directly from Rolex.

stratguy · 26 July 2018, 07:05 AM

One more thing to consider. If the watch hasn't been serviced for a while, and you send the head into the RSC, they will not replace the bracelet unless they service the watch. This just happened to me. Sent a 5 digit sub in without a bracelet and they made me service the watch even though it was running perfectly.

25 July 2018, 11:26 AM	#1
mr.president1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Ohio,UnitedStates Watch: ROLEX OMEGA Posts: 1,458	Just a Rolex bracelet? AD reason saying no Enjoying the new 126231 Datejust TT In Everose 18ct gold/SS 36mm! Went into my AD to see if I could buy the jubilee bracelet to go along with the oyster bracelet that came with my new watch. They said they won’t just sell me the bracelet, and that Rolex requires that I send mine back to them and buy a whole new one. This means that I’d have to forefeit the value of mine, and buy a new one. Their reasoning was that people are buying fake watches and want to fit their fake cases with real bracelets, which I think is BS. 1.) is that Rolex AD bologna 2.) If it’s true, do I get a pro-rated deal for giving them mine 3.) love both bracelets, just want to add a jubilee. Can it be sourced privately? Thanks all!! __________________ ROLEX & OMEGA

25 July 2018, 11:28 AM	#2
offrdmania 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Matt Location: Wine Country, Ca Posts: 5,998	This has been the case since June 2017. You usually have to source the bracelet privately __________________ TRF Member 11738

26 July 2018, 03:27 AM	#15
mr.president1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Ohio,UnitedStates Watch: ROLEX OMEGA Posts: 1,458	Thank you all for the input! Maybe I’ll just add another at some point or figure out a way to source privately. One member above said said something on the lines of trying to send the face in to see if they’ll fit one for it - might try that option to see if I get a bite. I guess I shouldn’t be surprised about Rolex doing this, but it’s super annoying __________________ ROLEX & OMEGA

26 July 2018, 04:15 AM	#19
lecorsaire "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: NYC Watch: 116710BLNR Posts: 1,541	It has to be a $4.5-5k (if not more) bracelet for sure with the 18k rose gold which is a little bit more than yellow. The regular PCL steel Oysters are a little under $2k I believe with the Daytona bracelet being the priciest and the solid gold Oysters and Presidents are probably north of $10k going by the retail difference on leather vs. bracelet for a new DD36. __________________ Rolex 116710 BLNR Rolex Day Date 118238 Champagne/Batons

26 July 2018, 04:44 AM	#20
Andrew NYC 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: NYC Posts: 336	A few options I was presented at the NYC RSC for my Day-Date The suggestion of going to a RSC makes sense as I brought in my 36mm Day-Date a few years back to the NYC RSC and asked about other strap and dial options. They presented me with a variety of options for both. For straps I had the choice of black/brown lizard or croc with a gold filled or 18K gold Rolex pin buckle. For the dials the choice was much greater. Also they were willing to allow me to keep my existing dial (the bracelet of course I would keep) if I paid an additional dial charge. Also they said that they would have to install the strap and buckle for as I could not just purchase it separately. The prices at that time were: Trade in dial - $600.00 for a non diamond dial and $90 for new hands (required) plus a labor fee of $150. Don't recall what the price was for keeping my original dial. Strap/Buckle - Plated buckle was $66 and 18K was $825 (they looked identical). Strap was $360 for the alligator and $180 for the lizard. -andrew

25 July 2018, 11:31 AM	#3
J!m "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Real Name: Jim Location: Connecticut Watch: this! Hold my beer Posts: 2,839	You could try brining the watch head only in and see “what bracelets fit” your watch... maybe try a different AD if they know you where you had asked. It’s worth a shot anyway.

25 July 2018, 01:01 PM	#4
David5807 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: USA Posts: 2,700	I've heard this same story from other ADs. I think it's true.

25 July 2018, 01:06 PM	#5
Bigblu10 Banned Join Date: Jul 2017 Real Name: Jaime Location: Here Posts: 5,606	Best bet is one of the sellers in the Rolex parts/accessories sub-forum. But you better be prepared to pay the big $$. Most likely 5K or more for that bracelet.

25 July 2018, 01:11 PM	#6
Easy E 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: GA Posts: 5,075	I have been given the same story from 3 different ADs regarding a DJ41 stainless. I wanted both the oyster and the jubilee, no dice. Ps. It is BS

25 July 2018, 01:19 PM	#7
MIKE84 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: USA Posts: 25	If a DJ has an oyster bracelet can a jubilee actually be fitted?

25 July 2018, 04:51 PM	#10
Digitran "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Switzerland Posts: 66	I do not think the story is BS. I have seen enough posts in forums I should not mention where members are looking to buy original parts, e.g. date wheels, to make their watches look "gen"

25 July 2018, 01:20 PM	#13
Fujiman Banned Join Date: May 2018 Location: USA Posts: 182	So Rolex wants to steal your existing bracelet in order to sell you an overpriced new one? Is that not your answer to look elsewhere?

25 July 2018, 01:25 PM	#14
Likestheshiny "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: _ Posts: 1,877	Rolex has always done everything possible to prevent "extra" parts from getting out. Imagine how hard it would be to detect a fake with a real dial and bezel on a real bracelet -- and those parts cost much less than a genuine Rolex would, so there's definitely money to be made by scammers. Overall, Rolex is pretty generous in their "switching out" policies -- as long as it's an option for your model, they'll do it. Not many other brands allow that at all, or make it so easy.

26 July 2018, 03:31 AM	#16
GreatScott "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: In a house Posts: 845	Yep, same story here. I started a thread about after market bracelets on WUS and a lot of people are resident to the thought but there is no alternative. Rolex doesn't want our cash I guess. Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

26 July 2018, 06:26 AM	#21
droptopman "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Real Name: Mark Location: Washington State Watch: SUBS and GMT's! Posts: 9,664	I sent a watch in (16570) with no bracelet to RSC Dallas and purchased a new bracelet for it. They gave me the option of a 78790 with end links or a 78790A with fixed end links. I told them I bought the watch head only which was true. Maybe try that. Contact RSC Dallas and see what they say. Rolex Watch U.S.A., Inc. Dallas Service Center 2651 North Harwood, Dallas, TX 75201 Phone: (214) 871-0500 Fax: (214) 871-2767 __________________ Judge Smails: Ty, what did you shoot today? Ty: Oh, Judge, I don't keep score. Judge Smails: Then how do you measure yourself with other golfers? Ty: By height.

26 July 2018, 06:38 AM	#22
GoingPlaces "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 5,356	Not BS, Rolex policy. You will need to source one. If an AD can find one for you great, but it won't come directly from Rolex.

26 July 2018, 07:05 AM	#23
stratguy "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: USA Watch: Speedmaster Pro Posts: 670	One more thing to consider. If the watch hasn't been serviced for a while, and you send the head into the RSC, they will not replace the bracelet unless they service the watch. This just happened to me. Sent a 5 digit sub in without a bracelet and they made me service the watch even though it was running perfectly.

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