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marc2828 · 20 August 2018, 01:12 AM

If I only had a time machine...

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offrdmania · 20 August 2018, 01:16 AM

Ill take a 16710 and 16520 please

marc2828 · 20 August 2018, 01:16 AM

Missed a page...

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Rolexavidfan · 20 August 2018, 01:19 AM

Were these readily available at that time in 1996? I bought a DJ 2 tone in that era at a higher price than the GMT or Daytona.

marc2828 · 20 August 2018, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Rolexavidfan

Were these readily available at that time in 1996? I bought a DJ 2 tone in that era at a higher price than the GMT or Daytona.

yes. I chose to buy a Breitling Navitimer for about $2k...wanted the Submariner date, but couldn't swing the extra $1k. Didn't even consider a Daytona which was less $. Ugh.

Soarer · 20 August 2018, 01:38 AM

How times have changed just like that!

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jcdeng · 20 August 2018, 01:45 AM

3050 for SS zenith daytona!? Damn, talk about increase in value...

tseiff · 20 August 2018, 02:25 AM

Confused I am
16700 has a jubilee bracelet - i was sure that the first time this happened on a gmt was for the last one 2018

pearson1995 · 20 August 2018, 02:26 AM

The explorer ii and Daytona had the same rrp, interesting.

marc2828 · 20 August 2018, 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by pearson1995

The explorer ii and Daytona had the same rrp, interesting.

what is interesting is that I have been looking at these Rolexes since 1991 when my buddy got one for HS graduation...and I just bought an SD43...first Rolex.

kegan · 20 August 2018, 02:46 AM

Prices were nearly the same in 99 when I bought my 16710, had to wait a whole week
For the red/black. They only had red/blue and black in the case which may have been
16700s. Sales lady said the red/blue one had been there forever and would give me
A great deal on it. It was horrible, thankfully Rolex has solved this.

Pacc12 · 20 August 2018, 02:50 AM

116718 looks so nice!!!!

Mystro · 20 August 2018, 02:55 AM

Thats what I remember. No one wanted a SS Daytona at $3100.00. It doesnt even have any gold in it. I would rather pay $5k for TT Sub or $8k for TT Daytona. Those were the days and thought process. Oddly enough the 18k Sub price isnt that much different from today.

schwoo · 20 August 2018, 03:00 AM

In 30-40 years I’m curious as to what today’s watches will cost? A small fortune!

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RHIII · 20 August 2018, 03:07 AM

I remember those days!!!!

The interesting thing is the monumental Rolex price increases over the years - $3k in ‘96 had the ‘buying’ power of almost $5k — in 2018 dollars...not a ‘huge’ delta

....yet the Submariner has increased (price) nearly 170%!!!! (8% per year average - if normally distributed)....

Just a thought....

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Rolerx · 20 August 2018, 03:08 AM

The daytona

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Bxtek · 20 August 2018, 03:13 AM

Wow.....a 16520 Daytona for $3050! Very cool to see this old catalog. Gives me the same feeling of wanting to go back in time as when I see old classifieds ads from the 90's for air cooled Porsches.

Thanks for posting!

Etschell · 20 August 2018, 03:43 AM

gold sub is equivalent to 34k now adays. plus you can get that model for sub 20k.

the daytona and gmt master 2 have appreciated well. the rest are simply keeping up with inflation

Dusko.Popov · 20 August 2018, 03:45 AM

It looks like the watches are worth more now than than what they would have been in 1996 dollars adjusted for inflation.

Is anyone able to do determine if these watches have outpaced the value of what the same $3050 would have been worth today if that money would have instead been invested and seen an average increase over the last 19 years?

Would be interesting to know since the “watches aren’t an investment crowd” are a loud and boisterous one here.

Onequik135i · 20 August 2018, 03:48 AM

Love reading posts like this. Lol.

Etschell · 20 August 2018, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Dusko.Popov

It looks like the watches are worth more now than than what they would have been in 1996 dollars adjusted for inflation.

Is anyone able to do determine if these watches have outpaced the value of what the same $3050 would have been worth today if that money would have instead been invested and seen an average increase over the last 19 years?

Would be interesting to know since the “watches aren’t an investment crowd” are a loud and boisterous one here.

3k in 1996 is over 18k today in the s and p 500.

that gold sub of 21k is still worth 21k. in the s and p it would be 131k today...

Dusko.Popov · 20 August 2018, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Etschell

3k in 1996 is over 18k today in the s and p 500.

that gold sub of 21k is still worth 21k. in the s and p it would be 131k today...

Thank you.

So the value of the stainless steel 16520 (used) and maybe even the 16710 (unworn, stickered, full provenance) have kept up with the average rate of market investment return.

That’s cool.

The value of the gold Rolex isn’t even close.

schwoo · 20 August 2018, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by RHIII

I remember those days!!!!

The interesting thing is the monumental Rolex price increases over the years - $3k in ‘96 had the ‘buying’ power of almost $5k — in 2018 dollars...not a ‘huge’ delta

....yet the Submariner has increased (price) nearly 170%!!!! (8% per year average - if normally distributed)....

Just a thought....

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We all need to buy more!!!!

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Old Expat Beast · 20 August 2018, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by tseiff

Confused I am
16700 has a jubilee bracelet - i was sure that the first time this happened on a gmt was for the last one 2018

It was optional in those days.

Providence Collector · 20 August 2018, 09:24 AM

Thanks so much for sharing!

Brings back memories. I recall having that same catalogue back in '96, and remember it featuring most fine watch brands organized in alphabetical order. It was my introduction to most of them in those pre forum / early internet days. Sadly my copy did not survive two moves.

Ravager135 · 20 August 2018, 09:33 AM

To me, these prices seem pretty reasonable considering the time. They still weren’t cheap. I received a 16610 in 2008 as a gift and the receipt shows it was purchased for a little over 5k. I was there when I picked it out and I remember the 16610LV was identical in price.

When things went ceramic is when the costs really started to soar. What shocks me most was how affordable the Daytonas were.

Etschell · 20 August 2018, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Ravager135

To me, these prices seem pretty reasonable considering the time. They still weren’t cheap. I received a 16610 in 2008 as a gift and the receipt shows it was purchased for a little over 5k. I was there when I picked it out and I remember the 16610LV was identical in price.

When things went ceramic is when the costs really started to soar. What shocks me most was how affordable the Daytonas were.

people didnt want them back then as much as now. i think tastes have changed.

marc2828 · 20 August 2018, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Providence Collector

Thanks so much for sharing!

Brings back memories. I recall having that same catalogue back in '96, and remember it featuring most fine watch brands organized in alphabetical order. It was my introduction to most of them in those pre forum / early internet days. Sadly my copy did not survive two moves.

I have a handful of these catalogs. Will post some more pages later.

bluebeamer · 20 August 2018, 12:17 PM

wow amazing. wish i bought a pepsi back then...

doozyj · 20 August 2018, 12:43 PM

We’ll all be saying the same thing again several years from now.

20 August 2018, 01:12 AM	#1
marc2828 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Real Name: Marc Location: NJ Watch: AP,LV,SD43,PAMs Posts: 747	Some 1996 Watches Catalog Pages If I only had a time machine... Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

20 August 2018, 01:16 AM	#2
offrdmania 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Matt Location: Wine Country, Ca Posts: 5,998	Ill take a 16710 and 16520 please __________________ TRF Member 11738

20 August 2018, 01:19 AM	#4
Rolexavidfan "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: Har Location: Tukwila, WA Watch: Rolex Posts: 1,571	Were these readily available at that time in 1996? I bought a DJ 2 tone in that era at a higher price than the GMT or Daytona. __________________ Rolex Rolex Rolex Rolex Rolex Rolex Rolex Rolex Rolex Rolex Go for the timepiece you love. You will save more. ...

20 August 2018, 01:38 AM	#6
Soarer "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Real Name: Albert Location: Toronto Watch: Submariner LV Posts: 1,083	How times have changed just like that! Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk __________________ What you gotta do, you gotta do!

20 August 2018, 02:26 AM	#9
pearson1995 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: England Posts: 939	The explorer ii and Daytona had the same rrp, interesting. __________________ The collection is never complete

20 August 2018, 01:16 AM	#3
marc2828 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Real Name: Marc Location: NJ Watch: AP,LV,SD43,PAMs Posts: 747	Missed a page... Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

20 August 2018, 01:45 AM	#7
jcdeng "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: NYC Watch: BLNR, SD43, Bluesy Posts: 179	3050 for SS zenith daytona!? Damn, talk about increase in value...

20 August 2018, 02:25 AM	#8
tseiff "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Nyc Posts: 60	Confused I am 16700 has a jubilee bracelet - i was sure that the first time this happened on a gmt was for the last one 2018

20 August 2018, 02:46 AM	#11
kegan "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Anchorage Alaska Posts: 605	Prices were nearly the same in 99 when I bought my 16710, had to wait a whole week For the red/black. They only had red/blue and black in the case which may have been 16700s. Sales lady said the red/blue one had been there forever and would give me A great deal on it. It was horrible, thankfully Rolex has solved this.

20 August 2018, 02:50 AM	#12
Pacc12 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: USA Watch: BLNR Posts: 160	116718 looks so nice!!!!

20 August 2018, 02:55 AM	#13
Mystro 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: The Mystro ;) Location: Central Pa. Posts: 15,509	Thats what I remember. No one wanted a SS Daytona at $3100.00. It doesnt even have any gold in it. I would rather pay $5k for TT Sub or $8k for TT Daytona. Those were the days and thought process. Oddly enough the 18k Sub price isnt that much different from today. __________________

20 August 2018, 03:00 AM	#14
schwoo "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 186	In 30-40 years I’m curious as to what today’s watches will cost? A small fortune! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

20 August 2018, 03:07 AM	#15
RHIII Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Real Name: Roger Location: ... Watch: AP/Rolex/PP Posts: 6,309	Some 1996 Watches Catalog Pages I remember those days!!!! The interesting thing is the monumental Rolex price increases over the years - $3k in ‘96 had the ‘buying’ power of almost $5k — in 2018 dollars...not a ‘huge’ delta ....yet the Submariner has increased (price) nearly 170%!!!! (8% per year average - if normally distributed).... Just a thought.... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

20 August 2018, 03:08 AM	#16
Rolerx "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: United States Posts: 24	The daytona Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

20 August 2018, 03:13 AM	#17
Bxtek "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: CA Posts: 2,636	Wow.....a 16520 Daytona for $3050! Very cool to see this old catalog. Gives me the same feeling of wanting to go back in time as when I see old classifieds ads from the 90's for air cooled Porsches. Thanks for posting!

20 August 2018, 03:43 AM	#18
Etschell "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: FL Watch: platinum sub Posts: 15,884	gold sub is equivalent to 34k now adays. plus you can get that model for sub 20k. the daytona and gmt master 2 have appreciated well. the rest are simply keeping up with inflation __________________ If you wind it, they will run. 25 or 6 to 4.

20 August 2018, 03:45 AM	#19
Dusko.Popov "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: DC Posts: 829	It looks like the watches are worth more now than than what they would have been in 1996 dollars adjusted for inflation. Is anyone able to do determine if these watches have outpaced the value of what the same $3050 would have been worth today if that money would have instead been invested and seen an average increase over the last 19 years? Would be interesting to know since the “watches aren’t an investment crowd” are a loud and boisterous one here.

20 August 2018, 03:48 AM	#20
Onequik135i "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Tampa, Florida Watch: 116610LV Posts: 2,573	Love reading posts like this. Lol. __________________ 16750 / 116610LV / 116613LB / Ed White 321 / PAM111 / PAM170

20 August 2018, 09:24 AM	#25
Providence Collector "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Real Name: Ron Location: Rhode Island Watch: Rolex Daytona Posts: 260	Thanks so much for sharing! Brings back memories. I recall having that same catalogue back in '96, and remember it featuring most fine watch brands organized in alphabetical order. It was my introduction to most of them in those pre forum / early internet days. Sadly my copy did not survive two moves.

20 August 2018, 09:33 AM	#26
Ravager135 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: New Jersey Posts: 4,224	To me, these prices seem pretty reasonable considering the time. They still weren’t cheap. I received a 16610 in 2008 as a gift and the receipt shows it was purchased for a little over 5k. I was there when I picked it out and I remember the 16610LV was identical in price. When things went ceramic is when the costs really started to soar. What shocks me most was how affordable the Daytonas were.

20 August 2018, 12:17 PM	#29
bluebeamer "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Asia Posts: 409	wow amazing. wish i bought a pepsi back then...

20 August 2018, 12:43 PM	#30
doozyj "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Los Angeles Watch: DSSD Posts: 205	We’ll all be saying the same thing again several years from now.

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