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ny_yeti · 30 November 2018, 12:03 PM

Hey gang, curious what you think. I have been offered a Rolex Sea-Dweller 4000 (116600) for my Rolex Sub Bluesy (116613LB).

I have to admit, I am on the fence. While I love my sub, I just don't wear it and it sits in a safe. The 4000 is a great piece and I see it getting some wrist time.

My only hesitancy is that I would need to ADD some cash. The fact that the 4000 is discontinued is the reason behind it, as you know, values have sky rocketed.

Any way, always appreciate the insight and feedback!

Thanks!

christopheran · 30 November 2018, 12:05 PM

I would consider doing the trade straight up if you really need the SD, but I don’t think I’d add cash to get the SD4K if both watches are similar condition.

WJGESQ · 30 November 2018, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by christopheran

I would consider doing the trade straight up if you really need the SD, but I don’t think I’d add cash to get the SD4K if both watches are similar condition.

Indeed.

BT1985 · 30 November 2018, 12:10 PM

Depends on the condition of each and any remaining warranty, if any. Then depends on how much extra cash we are talking. If you get the terms right I would jump all over it since you can always re acquire a bluesy down the road at a reasonable valuation.

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Mystro · 30 November 2018, 12:15 PM

The 4000 isnt hard to get so don’t let that be a factor. It’s also heavier and won’t wear as comfortable as your Sub.

Muxi · 30 November 2018, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystro

The 4000 isnt hard to get so don’t let that be a factor. It’s also heavier and won’t wear as comfortable as your Sub.

On the contrary, my Sd4k is more comfortable to wear than my Sub.

mistercoach32 · 4 December 2018, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystro

The 4000 isnt hard to get so don’t let that be a factor. It’s also heavier and won’t wear as comfortable as your Sub.

I agree with this. The 4K is an easy watch to find so I wouldn’t let the discontinuation sway my decision to add cash. I’d do the trade straight up if your TT just sits in the safe. The furthest I’d go with adding anything is maybe shipping/insurance for both watches, but that’s only if the deal was about to go through. I wouldn’t cut off my nose to spite my own face for a watch that just sits in my safe, but that’s as far as I’d go.

swils8610 · 30 November 2018, 12:20 PM

Man that’s a tough one. I have both. In the end I’d keep the SD4k. My SD4k is more comfortable than my Sub.

Mystro · 30 November 2018, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by swils8610

My SD4k is more comfortable than my Sub.

Curious why is it more comfortable?

swils8610 · 30 November 2018, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystro

Curious why is it more comfortable?

I think it’s the lugs...it does sit a little higher on my wrist. I’ve got a 7.5 inch wrist. The BLNR is least comfortable watch I have.

Soarer · 30 November 2018, 12:38 PM

My SD4K is also one of the most comfortable watches I have. The value of SD4K is only going to climb at a feverish rate, so you might as well get it sooner than later. It's the last SD Rolex made before they added the dreaded cyclop and upsized it. And it's very short run makes it even more desirable.

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swils8610 · 30 November 2018, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Soarer

My SD4K is also one of the most comfortable watches I have. The value of SD4K is only going to climb at a feverish rate, so you might as well get it sooner than later. It's the last SD Rolex made before they added the dreaded cyclop and upsized it. And it's very short run makes it even more desirable.

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RHIII · 30 November 2018, 12:42 PM

If you want a Sea Dweller - then sure make the trade— if you prefer the steel look sure make the trade — but I wouldn’t be adding any cash to the deal whatsoever.

There’s nothing special about the SD. I’ve worn both as daily watches.

Just my .02

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ltmgeller · 30 November 2018, 12:47 PM

I'd do it straight up or if they gave you a couple of hundred. I've seen the SD4k at $9.5k and the bluesy well over $10k. HAPPY HUNTING

Bladeshot · 30 November 2018, 01:21 PM

I’d do it straight up, but not with cash. They are in the same range. That’s a win win, assuming the 116613 is in good shape.

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Nikrnic · 30 November 2018, 01:58 PM

Not sure about the numbers but no doubt the SD4K is a great piece to have

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RolexNorth · 30 November 2018, 02:07 PM

The demand and value drops on two-tone gold watches. That should put your bluesy about in line with the SD. It'll hurt losing the value on your watch in this trade, but you know what? You would have lost it anyways. Face it, TT just isn't where it's at with Rolex and stainless steel is.

peterpl · 30 November 2018, 02:18 PM

no effin way

watchwatcher · 30 November 2018, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by peterpl

no effin way

Yeah. Hell no on adding any cash. Run, don't walk away.

subtona · 30 November 2018, 03:12 PM

I would do it!

Rocket launcher · 30 November 2018, 04:30 PM

No way and definitely no money
Old saying in the UK
At least Dick Turpin wore a mask
He was a highwayman...a highway robber

And if you hand money over you are being robbed

Fleetlord · 30 November 2018, 04:37 PM

How much cash?

BakerView · 30 November 2018, 05:14 PM

It's a good straight-up trade (similar condition and no cash in the deal). I think you'll find the SD more versatile and my guess is you'll wear it a lot more.

DP63 · 30 November 2018, 06:07 PM

This is a hard one really.

Depends on how much cash.
Depends on the margin the seller has.
Depends on how many people are interested in the SD.
Depends on how many people would be interested on the Sub for a quick turnaround for the seller.
Depends on how eager the seller is for the deal, based on the above.
Depends on how eager YOU are for the deal.

I'd push for as close to a straight swop as possible if it were my decision.

rambo99 · 30 November 2018, 07:05 PM

actually I didnt notice that the price of a sea dweller 4000 would be same as the bluesy sub. does the price of the sea dweller rise a lot this year?

joli160 · 30 November 2018, 09:07 PM

The SD4k price increase is in line with the SS hype currently going on.
It;s a very nice watch and you should buy it because you like it. After all it was not a popular reference and that's why Rolex discontinued it.
Not a good investment if that's what you are after.

beshannon · 30 November 2018, 10:00 PM

I would not trade, I would simply sell what I was not wearing.

1William · 30 November 2018, 10:14 PM

I would do it if the numbers were right and by that I mean straight trade or a little either way. A few hundred. I am not a TT fan and you can easily replace the TT should it not work for you. Go get your SD.

Jonesy2099 · 30 November 2018, 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ny_yeti

Hey gang, curious what you think. I have been offered a Rolex Sea-Dweller 4000 (116600) for my Rolex Sub Bluesy (116613LB).

I have to admit, I am on the fence. While I love my sub, I just don't wear it and it sits in a safe. The 4000 is a great piece and I see it getting some wrist time.

My only hesitancy is that I would need to ADD some cash. The fact that the 4000 is discontinued is the reason behind it, as you know, values have sky rocketed.

Any way, always appreciate the insight and feedback!

Thanks!

Well, the Sub sits in a safe and it sounds like you want the Sea Dweller due to its perceived rare status. I'm not sure your heart is in it. Don't bother with the 4000.

Maybe just sell the Sub and go on a nice holiday!

ny_yeti · 1 December 2018, 02:29 AM

Hi all, thank you, as always for the input and feedback. I have read each line and will not be making the deal. It is simply too lopsided and not in my favor. I will however, try and become a first time watch seller and get rid of the two tone blusey! Yikes!

Again, many and sincere thanks

Yeti

30 November 2018, 12:03 PM	#1
ny_yeti "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Real Name: Aaron Location: portland, or Watch: 126610LN Posts: 531	Trade Offer Hey gang, curious what you think. I have been offered a Rolex Sea-Dweller 4000 (116600) for my Rolex Sub Bluesy (116613LB). I have to admit, I am on the fence. While I love my sub, I just don't wear it and it sits in a safe. The 4000 is a great piece and I see it getting some wrist time. My only hesitancy is that I would need to ADD some cash. The fact that the 4000 is discontinued is the reason behind it, as you know, values have sky rocketed. Any way, always appreciate the insight and feedback! Thanks!

30 November 2018, 12:10 PM	#4
BT1985 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: USA Posts: 2,911	Trade Offer Depends on the condition of each and any remaining warranty, if any. Then depends on how much extra cash we are talking. If you get the terms right I would jump all over it since you can always re acquire a bluesy down the road at a reasonable valuation. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

30 November 2018, 12:20 PM	#8
swils8610 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Real Name: shannon Location: usa Posts: 9,210	Trade Offer Man that’s a tough one. I have both. In the end I’d keep the SD4k. My SD4k is more comfortable than my Sub.

30 November 2018, 12:38 PM	#11
Soarer "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Real Name: Albert Location: Toronto Watch: Submariner LV Posts: 1,083	My SD4K is also one of the most comfortable watches I have. The value of SD4K is only going to climb at a feverish rate, so you might as well get it sooner than later. It's the last SD Rolex made before they added the dreaded cyclop and upsized it. And it's very short run makes it even more desirable. Sent from my SM-G950W using Tapatalk __________________ What you gotta do, you gotta do!

30 November 2018, 12:47 PM	#14
ltmgeller 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Real Name: Mike Location: New York Watch: Rolex Posts: 22,574	I'd do it straight up or if they gave you a couple of hundred. I've seen the SD4k at $9.5k and the bluesy well over $10k. HAPPY HUNTING __________________ Oh, look at the time... Official Member: 'WIS-CON' Las Vegas International GTG 2019

30 November 2018, 12:05 PM	#2
christopheran "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Real Name: Chris Location: Mullica Hill, NJ Watch: AP RO Diver Posts: 389	I would consider doing the trade straight up if you really need the SD, but I don’t think I’d add cash to get the SD4K if both watches are similar condition.

30 November 2018, 12:15 PM	#5
Mystro 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: The Mystro ;) Location: Central Pa. Posts: 15,509	The 4000 isnt hard to get so don’t let that be a factor. It’s also heavier and won’t wear as comfortable as your Sub.

30 November 2018, 12:42 PM	#13
RHIII Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Real Name: Roger Location: ... Watch: AP/Rolex/PP Posts: 6,309	If you want a Sea Dweller - then sure make the trade— if you prefer the steel look sure make the trade — but I wouldn’t be adding any cash to the deal whatsoever. There’s nothing special about the SD. I’ve worn both as daily watches. Just my .02 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

30 November 2018, 01:21 PM	#15
Bladeshot 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Real Name: Grant Location: U.S. Watch: GMT 1675 PCG Gilt Posts: 5,850	I’d do it straight up, but not with cash. They are in the same range. That’s a win win, assuming the 116613 is in good shape. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Just another WIS who loves to trade...

30 November 2018, 01:58 PM	#16
Nikrnic "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Real Name: Louis Nick Ric Location: Michigan, USA Watch: Blnr, Expll, Subs, Posts: 10,172	Not sure about the numbers but no doubt the SD4K is a great piece to have Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk

30 November 2018, 02:07 PM	#17
RolexNorth Banned Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Toronto Watch: YM2SS,SD43,HULK Posts: 558	The demand and value drops on two-tone gold watches. That should put your bluesy about in line with the SD. It'll hurt losing the value on your watch in this trade, but you know what? You would have lost it anyways. Face it, TT just isn't where it's at with Rolex and stainless steel is.

30 November 2018, 02:18 PM	#18
peterpl Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: . Posts: 6,692	no effin way

30 November 2018, 03:12 PM	#20
subtona "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: gus Location: East Coast Watch: APK & sometimes Y Posts: 26,598	I would do it! __________________

30 November 2018, 04:30 PM	#21
Rocket launcher Banned Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: England Posts: 989	No way and definitely no money Old saying in the UK At least Dick Turpin wore a mask He was a highwayman...a highway robber And if you hand money over you are being robbed

30 November 2018, 04:37 PM	#22
Fleetlord 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Vain Posts: 6,023	How much cash?

30 November 2018, 05:14 PM	#23
BakerView "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Real Name: "BG" Location: PacNW Watch: that I'm Jonesin 4 Posts: 626	It's a good straight-up trade (similar condition and no cash in the deal). I think you'll find the SD more versatile and my guess is you'll wear it a lot more. __________________ 116610LN, 326934BL, 116610LV, Tudor BB41, IWC tzc, Aerospace EVO, Tudor BB41, 116622, Fortis-705.21.11, Luminox original diver The watch you give up today for the next grail may one day become your grail: Rolex:116520, 16570, 216570, 116710LN, 16610LV, 16700, 116600 Panerai:PAM176, PAM1024, PAM88 Breitling:6.75, Aerospace x2, Chrono 44 GMT, Blackbird/utc, Bentley GT IWC:3717.

30 November 2018, 06:07 PM	#24
DP63 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Real Name: DP Location: Scotland Watch: 18078 Posts: 795	This is a hard one really. Depends on how much cash. Depends on the margin the seller has. Depends on how many people are interested in the SD. Depends on how many people would be interested on the Sub for a quick turnaround for the seller. Depends on how eager the seller is for the deal, based on the above. Depends on how eager YOU are for the deal. I'd push for as close to a straight swop as possible if it were my decision. __________________ 114060 - 116200 - 114300 - 18078

30 November 2018, 07:05 PM	#25
rambo99 Banned Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Tokyo Watch: SD43,PAM1616,Hulk Posts: 3,567	actually I didnt notice that the price of a sea dweller 4000 would be same as the bluesy sub. does the price of the sea dweller rise a lot this year?

30 November 2018, 09:07 PM	#26
joli160 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: NL Watch: Yachtmaster Posts: 14,757	The SD4k price increase is in line with the SS hype currently going on. It;s a very nice watch and you should buy it because you like it. After all it was not a popular reference and that's why Rolex discontinued it. Not a good investment if that's what you are after. __________________ Day Date 18238, Yachtmaster 16622, Deepsea 116660, Submariner 116619, SkyD 326935, DJ 178271, DJ 69158, Yachtmaster 169622, GMT 116713LN, GMT 126711.

30 November 2018, 10:00 PM	#27
beshannon "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Brian Location: Northern Virginia Watch: One of Not Many Posts: 17,892	I would not trade, I would simply sell what I was not wearing. __________________ IWC Portugieser 7 Day, Omega Seamaster SMP300m, Vacheron Constantin Traditionnelle Complete Calendar, Glashutte PanoInverse, Glashutte SeaQ Panorama Date, Omega Aqua Terra 150, Omega CK 859, Omega Speedmaster 3861 Moonwatch, Breitling Superocean Steelfish, JLC Atmos Transparent Clock

30 November 2018, 10:14 PM	#28
1William 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: North Carolina Watch: Rolex/Others Posts: 47,764	I would do it if the numbers were right and by that I mean straight trade or a little either way. A few hundred. I am not a TT fan and you can easily replace the TT should it not work for you. Go get your SD.

1 December 2018, 02:29 AM	#30
ny_yeti "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Real Name: Aaron Location: portland, or Watch: 126610LN Posts: 531	Hi all, thank you, as always for the input and feedback. I have read each line and will not be making the deal. It is simply too lopsided and not in my favor. I will however, try and become a first time watch seller and get rid of the two tone blusey! Yikes! Again, many and sincere thanks Yeti

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