Anybody Up for a SS Smurf ? Out of the Cards ?

[ALF61]

Who would buy a SS Smurf Sub if Rolex were to announce one in Basel 2019 ? All we need is similar attitude as with the WG BLRO. The Smurf does not sell much Rolex could capitalize from an already beautiful design if it went with SS.

[Mystro]

PM models never sell as good as SS models and it is because of price. They never been, nor expected to be, a high volume sale.

[Colin10101]

I wouldn’t buy, not crazy about the blue.

[TonyD]

I said we'd never see a steel BLRO and yet here we are......

[ALF61]

Originally Posted by Mystro

PM models never sell as good as SS models and it is because of price. They never been, nor expected to be, a high volume sale.

Of course, but the BLRO was sure a departure from original conception was it not ? Will this be repeated for the Smurf ? A sunburst dial along the way, something like the Hulk only in Blue.

[scottwmitch]

Originally Posted by ALF61

Of course, but the BLRO was sure a departure from original conception was it not ? Will this be repeated for the Smurf ? A sunburst dial along the way, something like the Hulk only in Blue.

This! A sunburst blue would be amazing.

[TimeRookie]

I think I’d consider dusting off my wallet for a SS Smurf. I’d call it a 126610 BL though. :)

[Bigblu10]

If Rolex offered a SS Sub w/Blue dial, who would buy the WG/YG Blue dial Subs? C'mon, this would be a bad business decision. I think you all can dream, but in reality this is not going to happen.

[JacksonStone]

Originally Posted by Bigblu10

If Rolex offered a SS Sub w/Blue dial, who would buy the WG/YG Blue dial Subs? C'mon, this would be a bad business decision. I think you all can dream, but in reality this is not going to happen.

You're joking, I assume.

[lenfried29]

I'll buy Smurf SS in a heart bit.

[thesharkfactor]

Yes please.. a 116610 with sunburst blue dial/bezel. Put me on the list already.

[AK797]

Would sell like hot cakes, altho I nearly always eat my cake cold.

[hodie9]

That is at the top of my wish list along with a new red/black GMT. Here’s to hoping.

[Bigblu10]

Originally Posted by JacksonStone

You're joking, I assume.

No joke. It won't happen. It would kill gold Sub sales. Why would Rolex want 35k gold Subs to sit and collect dust?

[Easy E]

Originally Posted by Bigblu10

No joke. It won't happen. It would kill gold Sub sales. Why would Rolex want 35k gold Subs to sit and collect dust?

IDK, the same dust the WG GMT is currently collecting?

[Igor01]

If they make a SS Smurf, they'll need to either discontinue the WG version or differenciate it smehow from the cheaper version. One way of doing that is finally releasing a sunburst dial for the WG model while using the flat one for the steel Smurf but then it will probbly piss off the current WG smurf owners, unless they can be given an option for a free sunburst dial install, if desired.

[Rolex addict]

Originally Posted by Igor01

If they make a SS Smurf, they'll need to either discontinue the WG version or differenciate it smehow from the cheaper version. One way of doing that is finally releasing a sunburst dial for the WG model while using the flat one for the steel Smurf but then it will probbly piss off the current WG smurf owners, unless they can be given an option for a free sunburst dial install, if desired.

It wouldn’t make me mad. Posers can have their SS and pretend to be a big boy with a solid gold watch. When it’s on your wrist, you know. Hard to fake the weight of gold. Personally, I would rather see a platinum sub than another SS version.

[JacksonStone]

Originally Posted by Bigblu10

No joke. It won't happen. It would kill gold Sub sales. Why would Rolex want 35k gold Subs to sit and collect dust?

You've been here long enough to remember the exact same thing being said less than a year ago before Rolex put out the SS Pepsi. That shoots your argument in the foot, and is why I assumed you were joking. I'm not sure how anyone can say it with a straight face now.

As for YG, that's a non-argument, too. YG is easily identifiable as gold; SS doesn't hurt its sales. Rolex already puts out both a YG and SS black dial Sub. Ditto YG blue vs. TT blue. The only issue is the WG Smurf, since it's a white metal. Per the point above, we have seen Rolex has no problem throwing their WG models under the bus. Moreover, if an SS blue has a sunburst dial, that will differentiate it from the WG version. I'm not saying we're going to see a SS blue Sub, but saying it won't happen because Rolex won't want to cannibalize their gold sales makes no sense.

[j-watch]

Originally Posted by Rolex addict

It wouldn’t make me mad. Posers can have their SS and pretend to be a big boy with a solid gold watch. When it’s on your wrist, you know. Hard to fake the weight of gold. Personally, I would rather see a platinum sub than another SS version.

Kind of a douche way to put that, don't ya think? Case in point, I can afford to wear a full gold sport watch, but I prefer the feel and lighter weight of the SS. Does that make me a "poser"?

Conversely, I'm not one to give a rats ass what someone else has on their wrist. If they're happy, I'm happy!

[ALF61]

Originally Posted by Bigblu10

If Rolex offered a SS Sub w/Blue dial, who would buy the WG/YG Blue dial Subs? C'mon, this would be a bad business decision. I think you all can dream, but in reality this is not going to happen.

Then why make something undesirable in the first place ? unless there is a place for everything. This would not detract lovers of the TT Bluesy or the real Smurf. If you are a lover that is. Otherwise Rolex would only exploit additional love for SS Blue.

[Rolex addict]

Originally Posted by j-watch

Kind of a douche way to put that, don't ya think? Case in point, I can afford to wear a full gold sport watch, but I prefer the feel and lighter weight of the SS. Does that make me a "poser"?

Conversely, I'm not one to give a rats ass what someone else has on their wrist. If they're happy, I'm happy!

Not everyone is a poser, but there was a lot crap talked about the WG GMT colors and bezel when it first came out. Once it was available in SS, it became the greatest thing since sliced bread. If you’re not in this category, I’m not talking about you.

[ALF61]

Originally Posted by Bigblu10

No joke. It won't happen. It would kill gold Sub sales. Why would Rolex want 35k gold Subs to sit and collect dust?

That is nothing comparable to the other market. Imagine you had a black and Hulk. Surely you would NEED Blue. Got blue ?

[JacksonStone]

Originally Posted by j-watch

Kind of a douche way to put that, don't ya think? Case in point, I can afford to wear a full gold sport watch, but I prefer the feel and lighter weight of the SS. Does that make me a "poser"?

It also overlooks potential aesthetic differences. Sure, if a blue SS Sub is an exact clone of the WG Smurf, then his argument holds more water. But what if they put out a stainless blue with a sunburst dial and BCLs on the bracelet? Or what if the hue of the blue were slightly darker, both in the dial and the bezel insert? Then you would have a unique model that a lot of people would likely want on its own merits, and not just to "pretend" they have a gold model.

[j-watch]

Originally Posted by Rolex addict

Not everyone is a poser, but there was a lot crap talked about the WG GMT colors and bezel when it first came out. Once it was available in SS, it became the greatest thing since sliced bread. If you’re not in this category, I’m not talking about you.

Fair enough! I'm not advocating for a SS Smurf, but I can tell you that I'd be head over heals in love with a newly updated Sub / Date with the blue sunburst dial off the SkyD and the cerachrome blue bezel colors off the BLNR. IMHO it would be a stunner, and be hard or harder to source then an LV.

I've got an SD43, and its weight is enough to make me not want to wear it every day. I tried for few weeks straight back when I bough it, and eventually I enjoy taking it off at days end. This is one of the main reasons I don't own a full gold model. The SS Subs and GMT's weight fits me like a glove. That's what I was driving at.

[j-watch]

Originally Posted by JacksonStone

It also overlooks potential aesthetic differences. Sure, if a blue SS Sub is an exact clone of the WG Smurf, then his argument holds more water. But what if they put out a stainless blue with a sunburst dial and BCLs on the bracelet? Or what if the hue of the blue were slightly darker, both in the dial and the bezel insert? Then you would have a unique model that a lot of people would likely want on its own merits, and not just to "pretend" they have a gold model.

I agree completely! In fact, I'd be all over a new Sub with the sunburst blue dial and cerachrome blue bezel, full updated with new movements and BCL's. A new sub altogether. I agree that to simply make a SS version of the exact model probably doesn't make sense, or anyone happy.

[Harry-57]

A SS blue sunburst Hulk. A Bulk? I don't suppose the waiting list would be longer than around 10 years.

[JacksonStone]

Originally Posted by j-watch

I agree completely! In fact, I'd be all over a new Sub with the sunburst blue dial and cerachrome blue bezel, full updated with new movements and BCL's. A new sub altogether. I agree that to simply make a SS version of the exact model probably doesn't make sense, or anyone happy.

It's hard to predict, but if Rolex does with the Submariner what they did with the GMT, I'd say a blue SS Sub is certainly plausible. Despite claims of "contoured" lugs on the latest GMTs, the reality is the cases are virtually identical to the 3186-based Supercase models. If all they had done was re-release the existing dial and bezel colors with new movements, the needle wouldn't have moved much. Instead, all the new-movement GMTs came in new bezel/metal/bracelet combos to generate interest. If the new Sub (whenever it comes out) follows the same pattern - with the case almost identical to the current six-digit version - I expect the initial releases will also be in new color/metal combos to generate interest, with the new movement working its way into existing colors in subsequent years. If Rolex is looking for a new Sub color to pique buyers' desires, a blue SS would certainly be one option.

[ALF61]

Originally Posted by JacksonStone

It's hard to predict, but if Rolex does with the Submariner what they did with the GMT, I'd say a blue SS Sub is certainly plausible. Despite claims of "contoured" lugs on the latest GMTs, the reality is the cases are virtually identical to the 3186-based Supercase models. If all they had done was re-release the existing dial and bezel colors with new movements, the needle wouldn't have moved much. Instead, all the new-movement GMTs came in new bezel/metal/bracelet combos to generate interest. If the new Sub (whenever it comes out) follows the same pattern - with the case almost identical to the current six-digit version - I expect the initial releases will also be in new color/metal combos to generate interest, with the new movement working its way into existing colors in subsequent years. If Rolex is looking for a new Sub color to pique buyers' desires, a blue SS would certainly be one option.

Yep, me too. I am already first on my AD´s list for having suggested it. LOL!!

But seriously, the WG Smurf would still hold its place this would be a less elegant, less flashy, version. Sunburst dial, brushed center links bracelet, a must have for anybody. Any green Hulk love would immediately translate to blue love.

[jeffnnj]

Originally Posted by j-watch

Fair enough! I'm not advocating for a SS Smurf, but I can tell you that I'd be head over heals in love with a newly updated Sub / Date with the blue sunburst dial off the SkyD and the cerachrome blue bezel colors off the BLNR. IMHO it would be a stunner, and be hard or harder to source then an LV.



I've got an SD43, and its weight is enough to make me not want to wear it every day. I tried for few weeks straight back when I bough it, and eventually I enjoy taking it off at days end. This is one of the main reasons I don't own a full gold model. The SS Subs and GMT's weight fits me like a glove. That's what I was driving at.

Do you think the main issue is weight or balance? My DD weighs about 205g but it’s super comfortable.


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[ap1]

I would go crazy for a sunburst blue in ss, wg, or platinum. Not fond of smurfy blue