RIP Emantic Bradford

[Abdullah71601]

Emantic Bradford was shot by off duty police in an Alabama mall while assisting others to safety when a shooting erupted in the Mall. Bradford had a concealed carry permit and was armed at the time. Police shot the first armed black man they saw and proclaimed the situation resolved.

After changing their story several times, and walking back the original narrative, police admitted they shot the wrong man.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...f-civil-rights

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/29/u...-shooting.html

[Art 1]

Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

Emantic Bradford was shot by off duty police in an Alabama mall while assisting others to safety when a shooting erupted in the Mall. Bradford had a concealed carry permit and was armed at the time. Police shot the first armed black man they saw and proclaimed the situation resolved.

After changing their story several times, and walking back the original narrative, police admitted they shot the wrong man.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...f-civil-rights

I had read about this, Abdullah. So sad. Awful really. It's good that the truth of the situation came out.

[superdog]

yeah, this is a horrible story.

[Doc Savage]

There's so much wrong in that Mall situation. Tragic and preventable.

[Wesley Crusher]

Really sad. RIP. I hope the family gets justice, though I doubt that will happen.

[Valenciawatchrepair]

This will only further divide people. Why did they have to lie about it. If the cop would've accessed the situation just a tiny bit, he could have prevented this tragedy. How sad.

[Blansky]

And following his murder they followed the usual cop script and did a character assassination on him.

[gin47]

Really sad and tragic. Glad the truth came out.

[GradyPhilpott]

Rest in peace.

[RW16610]

Such an incredibly sad situation. Rest in peace.

[Valenciawatchrepair]

Originally Posted by Blansky

And following his murder they followed the usual cop script and did a character assassination on him.

Yep. Sad part is, there are plenty of cases where it goes the other way, but this one being the nature it was will only further the rage on both sides. It's a never ending battle. I don't see an end to this sort of thing any time soon. It really sucks for everyone.

[Art 1]

Originally Posted by Blansky

And following his murder they followed the usual cop script and did a character assassination on him.

Yes. That was really bad. I have read some other things about this shooting that are even worse, if they are true.

[HarryLime]

Tangentially related... Today I was happy to see former office Amber Guyger indicted on murder chargers for the unprovoked murder of Botham Jean in Dallas.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/30/us/da...ean/index.html

[Widows Son]

Why do I have this strange feeling that this thread is going to end badly???

[Star Ferry]

Sad. Black people should be free to exercise their rights, especially when intervening as a rescuer in a dangerous situation.

[Abdullah71601]

Originally Posted by Widows Son

Why do I have this strange feeling that this thread is going to end badly???

No idea why. Replies have all been restrained and respectful.

A man who came to the aid of others, in the best tradition of American civic duty, was needlessly killed. It's only fitting that he be remembered for his service to his community.

[Fleetlord]

Originally Posted by Widows Son

Why do I have this strange feeling that this thread is going to end badly???

IBTL


It will be coming any post now...

[Fleetlord]

Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

No idea why. Replies have all been restrained and respectful.

A man who came to the aid of others, in the best tradition of American civic duty, was needlessly killed. It's only fitting that he be remembered for his service to his community.

Because if a thread about "desk diving scratches" gets locked up after two pages...

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=642227

I'm not sure how well this will go. Guess we will find out..will be an interesting test.

Sad story. Should never have happened.

[uscmatt99]

I think we can all agree to honor heroes whether or not they were wearing a uniform when they died saving others. We can also hold anybody and everybody responsible for their actions.

[Valenciawatchrepair]

Originally Posted by HarryLime

Tangentially related... Today I was happy to see former office Amber Guyger indicted on murder chargers for the unprovoked murder of Botham Jean in Dallas.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/30/us/da...ean/index.html

That's a tough one too. If what she claims is the truth. Can you imagine genuinely thinking you've entered your own apartment. Then find out it's not, and you've killed someone. The guilt would be horrific!

[cop414]

Originally Posted by uscmatt99

I think we can all agree to honor heroes whether or not they were wearing a uniform when they died saving others. We can also hold anybody and everybody responsible for their actions.

Well said.

[HarryLime]

Originally Posted by Valenciawatchrepair

That's a tough one too. If what she claims is the truth. Can you imagine genuinely thinking you've entered your own apartment. Then find out it's not, and you've killed someone. The guilt would be horrific!

The guilt should be horrific whether or not she thought it was her own apartment. And the charge the prosecutors are going after doesn't really change regardless of if what she claims is true or not.

The character assassination that the cops were heading towards after the fact was despicable too. Wow, they found traces of weed in his apartment. Why is that even worthy of note? Imagine sitting in your own living room watching TV, and someone comes in and assassinates you. The situation boggles the mind.

[HarryLime]

But yes, obviously it's tough because I don't think that anyone thinks that she woke up that day and decided to kill someone.

[Valenciawatchrepair]

Originally Posted by HarryLime

But yes, obviously it's tough because I don't think that anyone thinks that she woke up that day and decided to kill someone.

This is where it gets tricky. The mob will paint a different picture. I've discussed it many times in the past. But, that is society today. Meanwhile, the daily injustices that plague many more are never talked about.

[Floorguy]

Very sad! What a terrible tragedy! Unfortunately, we all to be aware of our surroundings wherever we go, it’s horrible!! I’ve always wonder what I will do in that situation. Hopefully, I will never have to find out! RIP young man!

[goin camping]

Emantic Bradford deserves hero status. Any person who risks his or her life to protect others is a hero.

How his memory was treated after the fact by the agency was truly horrific and disgusting.

Mistakes happen in life. when you or your Department makes one. Stand up and do the right thing. It will all come out in court anyway and when it does. It costs you more.

[Valenciawatchrepair]

Originally Posted by goin camping

Emantic Bradford deserves hero status. Any person who risks his or her life to protect others is a hero.

How his memory was treated after the fact by the agency was truly horrific and disgusting.

Mistakes happen in life. when you or your Department makes one. Stand up and do the right thing. It will all come out in court anyway and when it does. It costs you more.

The problem here is, it hurts an entire nation. It's just another nail in the coffin of race relations in this country.

[56scooter]

Yes this is a tragedy, but you only create more discord when you state

Police shot the first armed black man they saw

Before you respond, I ask you to think for a moment and put yourself in the first responders shoes. You have no idea what the description of the incident was as transmitted over the police radio, whether or not there were descriptions of the individuals involved or any of the pertinent information that would allow you to say

Police shot the first armed black man they saw

Was this a tragedy, yes. Did the police handle the aftermath in the best way, probably not. But I can tell you from over twenty years experience in law enforcement in some of the worst neighborhoods in the country that a potential armed confrontation is the most difficult situation to handle. Police all over the country respond to these incidents daily without incidents. Do mistakes happen, of course they do, but police respond heroically day after day and make the ultimate sacrifice on a regular basis. To generalize an incident with such a provocative statement does no one any good!

[Rockrolex]

It's not safe to be black in America today, whether or not you're wearing a Rolex.

[Star Ferry]

Originally Posted by 56scooter

Yes this is a tragedy, but you only create more discord when you state Before you respond, I ask you to think for a moment and put yourself in the first responders shoes. You have no idea what the description of the incident was as transmitted over the police radio, whether or not there were descriptions of the individuals involved or any of the pertinent information that would allow you to say
Was this a tragedy, yes. Did the police handle the aftermath in the best way, probably not. But I can tell you from over twenty years experience in law enforcement in some of the worst neighborhoods in the country that a potential armed confrontation is the most difficult situation to handle. Police all over the country respond to these incidents daily without incidents. Do mistakes happen, of course they do, but police respond heroically day after day and make the ultimate sacrifice on a regular basis. To generalize an incident with such a provocative statement does no one any good!

The officer's confusion and fear is understandable, but that's the job. His desire to end the potential danger quickly wasn't more important than Mr. Bradford's life. Especially in light of the department's behavior afterward, you have a hard stance to defend.

Officers like this, who've demonstrated inability to keep a clear head when facing a violent altercation, should do everyone a favor and find a new line of work.