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apex02 · 2 December 2018, 12:28 AM

I just bought this cool faded fat font 1675 brown insert on another forum and when I received it I noticed the back of it was not all uniform in color. Any way to tell if this is legit or not? Every other one I’ve seen has had a solid color back. This one seemed to have a bunch of old adhesive or dirt and when cleaned off I noticed the silver coloring.

freefly · 2 December 2018, 02:13 PM

The backside should be solid brown, and darker than the topside if naturally faded.
Pics are too small for me to tell, but it still could be genuine, just with mechanically and/or chemically induced "forced patina".
If you can, post better/bigger pics.

TimeToGo · 2 December 2018, 09:48 PM

Do you have a before picture or for that matter - better pictures?
What did you use to clean the back? Could you have removed the paint?

apex02 · 3 December 2018, 01:24 PM

The back had some sticky glue like substance that I was able to just scratch off. The front has some chips that I would think would be hard to fabricate. Here are some better pics

Onikage · 3 December 2018, 06:37 PM

Doesn't look right to me. It possibly isn't a brown insert at all but began life as a fake black insert. I hope you didn't pay a lot if it is fake..

TimeToGo · 3 December 2018, 09:49 PM

Yes, I saw this listed on VRM.
I understand the issue with the light back side but that is one thick font, early production..

Slap it on a watch and don't worry about the back side..

2 December 2018, 12:28 AM	#1
apex02 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: houston Posts: 5	GMT insert real? I just bought this cool faded fat font 1675 brown insert on another forum and when I received it I noticed the back of it was not all uniform in color. Any way to tell if this is legit or not? Every other one I’ve seen has had a solid color back. This one seemed to have a bunch of old adhesive or dirt and when cleaned off I noticed the silver coloring. Attached Images

3 December 2018, 01:24 PM	#4
apex02 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: houston Posts: 5	More pics The back had some sticky glue like substance that I was able to just scratch off. The front has some chips that I would think would be hard to fabricate. Here are some better pics Attached Images

3 December 2018, 06:37 PM	#5
Onikage "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: England Watch: 16710, 16628 Posts: 7,757	Doesn't look right to me. It possibly isn't a brown insert at all but began life as a fake black insert. I hope you didn't pay a lot if it is fake.. __________________ GMT II 16710 TRADITIONAL ( D- Serial #) ROLEXFANBOY P-Club Member #4

2 December 2018, 02:13 PM	#2
freefly "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: Eric Location: AZ Watch: 4&5-digit Sub/GMTs Posts: 1,974	The backside should be solid brown, and darker than the topside if naturally faded. Pics are too small for me to tell, but it still could be genuine, just with mechanically and/or chemically induced "forced patina". If you can, post better/bigger pics.

2 December 2018, 09:48 PM	#3
TimeToGo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,736	Do you have a before picture or for that matter - better pictures? What did you use to clean the back? Could you have removed the paint?

3 December 2018, 09:49 PM	#6
TimeToGo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,736	Yes, I saw this listed on VRM. I understand the issue with the light back side but that is one thick font, early production.. Slap it on a watch and don't worry about the back side..

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