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Stig722 · 12 December 2018, 12:37 AM

I know the forum is obviously biased but I am trying to decide between the following:

1. New Black Date Sub.
2. New Hulk
3. Used AP Royal Oak Offshore diver with black rubber strap and black face.

I know these watches aren't really comparable but I'm a one watch kind of person and need this to be my daily. What are your thoughts?

harvey · 12 December 2018, 12:39 AM

The answer would depend largely on availability and wait times for each reference. As well as price, will you be going AD or grey route? What are you prepared to pay for each of your choices?

Xerxes77 · 12 December 2018, 12:40 AM

Diver for me

rmlovett1 · 12 December 2018, 12:43 AM

Out of your choices...I’d go with a Submariner (either one is a great daily)

Stig722 · 12 December 2018, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by harvey

The answer would depend largely on availability and wait times for each reference. As well as price, will you be going AD or grey route? What are you prepared to pay for each of your choices?

Local AP AD has a used ROO that they are helping a client sell. It's more expensive than a new Sub but the price is fair in my opinion.

As for the Sub I won't go grey market. I'll put my name down at every AD possible and wait for a call.

Chiboy · 12 December 2018, 12:47 AM

I have pretty much been a one-watch guy for 33 years. IMO, even though I've never owned any of your options, the AP would be out because they seem to be much less robust than Rolex and don't really make for good daily's.

The green Sub would be out for me because it's so bold and therefor isn't really right in some situations (green Sub lovers will disagree).

The black Sub date is the most flexible of the three and is much more suitable to withstand the rigors of daily life than the AP, so that would be my choice. Plus, of course, it's a nice, iconic watch.

AK797 · 12 December 2018, 12:52 AM

I've owned all 3 and still have the LVc.

SpunkyQ8 · 12 December 2018, 01:01 AM

I'll stick to Rolex for an all rounder. IMO it the diver wouldn't look neat on a suit. however I do wear my Rolex from work to the beach and then back out to a night out ..

LNazmm · 12 December 2018, 01:02 AM

I'd go with the black sub date. The hulk is a beauty, no doubt, but I feel it's a little more of a novelty, which may wane over time. A black sub is a black sub....

jeffnnj · 12 December 2018, 01:24 AM

What material is the watch and bezel on the AP? If it’s stainless you need to consider that it’s not babied it will look like hell in a shirt period of time. If the bezel is rubber it will need to be changed at service and AP service ain’t cheap. Your cost of ownership between Rolex and AP is VERY different.

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t65tampa · 12 December 2018, 01:34 AM

Would be between the Submariner LN or the AP ROO Diver.

Pauln · 12 December 2018, 01:36 AM

Out of those three, sub, but you should really look at the Explorer.

Stig722 · 12 December 2018, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Pauln

Out of those three, sub, but you should really look at the Explorer.

not a fan of the explorer. Think it's going to be a black sub to be honest.

Tomas Eriksson · 12 December 2018, 01:40 AM

AP Diver.
Owned multiple divers and subs. Still have both in my collection but if someone put a gun to my head and make me chose I would keep a diver.

Ungucpho · 12 December 2018, 01:43 AM

Vote for black sub date from me

Stig722 · 12 December 2018, 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomas Eriksson

AP Diver.
Owned multiple divers and subs. Still have both in my collection but if someone put a gun to my head and make me chose I would keep a diver.

If someone had a gun to your head I think he would be the one to keep the diver

opawlows · 12 December 2018, 01:45 AM

Is the black bezel GMT in the running for your one and only?

Stig722 · 12 December 2018, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by opawlows

Is the black bezel GMT in the running for your one and only?

Can't do the black GMT or the BLNR as I can't stand the PCL on the bracelet. GMT Pepsi would be an option but impossible to get at MSRP.

ROLEXster · 12 December 2018, 02:02 AM

If one and only ... go with black sub date

The Libertine · 12 December 2018, 02:03 AM

Submariner Date is my pick of the three options.

Pauln · 12 December 2018, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Stig722

not a fan of the explorer. Think it's going to be a black sub to be honest.

That’s a great pick!

szabo_martin · 12 December 2018, 02:05 AM

Id do black sub over the ROO if you only have one watch. Mainly because the ROO is used and unless it just came from AP factory service your in for a hefty and long service in your near future.

^m9 · 12 December 2018, 02:11 AM

I vote for the black Sub date. Most versatile of the three.

I have grown to love the Hulk, but the timelessness of the black Sub wins out for me.

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mistercoach32 · 12 December 2018, 02:22 AM

If it were me, I'd go one of the Subs. I've had a date (black) and no date Sub. Both are long gone and I now have the LVc, but I also have a BLNR so the black dial scratches that itch. Just depends on your personality and which one sings to you. My history is such that every watch I wasn't 100% onboard with prior to owning has ended up getting sold sooner than later.

mas12 · 12 December 2018, 02:28 AM

SubC Date no doubt. It's the most versatile of the three. I don't think a ROO on rubber can be a daily wear with anything type of watch (specifically business casual/professional).

SubC - the classic.

Easy E · 12 December 2018, 02:56 AM

One watch is not a collection, its A watch.

Given your choices the Sub Date is the most all round useful, to me.

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Tomas Eriksson · 12 December 2018, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Stig722

If someone had a gun to your head I think he would be the one to keep the diver

haha, fair point

vman · 12 December 2018, 03:06 AM

New Hulk.

Any black Sub that is not a 5 digit--a commodity.

AP ROO--a grotesque misinterpretation of the original.

My opinions, of course ;-)

breitlings · 12 December 2018, 03:08 AM

do you want to tell time or look good? looking good roo, telling time rolex. the ap does look really good though.

ocwatching · 12 December 2018, 03:14 AM

having had all these pieces..AP Diver is not a great daily..and its got too much drama associated with service times and cost..
robust, easy and accurate..rolex would be my daily

12 December 2018, 12:37 AM	#1
Stig722 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Earth Watch: 116610LV - HULK Posts: 140	One watch collection Sub v. AP ROO ? I know the forum is obviously biased but I am trying to decide between the following: 1. New Black Date Sub. 2. New Hulk 3. Used AP Royal Oak Offshore diver with black rubber strap and black face. I know these watches aren't really comparable but I'm a one watch kind of person and need this to be my daily. What are your thoughts?

12 December 2018, 12:47 AM	#6
Chiboy "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Chicago Watch: Daytona Posts: 5,572	I have pretty much been a one-watch guy for 33 years. IMO, even though I've never owned any of your options, the AP would be out because they seem to be much less robust than Rolex and don't really make for good daily's. The green Sub would be out for me because it's so bold and therefor isn't really right in some situations (green Sub lovers will disagree). The black Sub date is the most flexible of the three and is much more suitable to withstand the rigors of daily life than the AP, so that would be my choice. Plus, of course, it's a nice, iconic watch. __________________ Datejust w/black Tapestry dial (1985) / Daytona (2016)

12 December 2018, 01:34 AM	#11
t65tampa "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: USA Posts: 2,257	Would be between the Submariner LN or the AP ROO Diver. __________________ t65tampa

12 December 2018, 01:40 AM	#14
Tomas Eriksson "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Stockholm Watch: 15707CE Posts: 2,027	AP Diver. Owned multiple divers and subs. Still have both in my collection but if someone put a gun to my head and make me chose I would keep a diver. __________________ State of the union: 5066A,15400ST,15707CE,116610LN,26470OR and a few other…

12 December 2018, 02:28 AM	#25
mas12 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: DC Metro Watch: 116610LN Posts: 384	SubC Date no doubt. It's the most versatile of the three. I don't think a ROO on rubber can be a daily wear with anything type of watch (specifically business casual/professional). SubC - the classic. __________________ Current Collection: Rolex SubC 116610LN

12 December 2018, 12:39 AM	#2
harvey "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: rolexforums.com Posts: 5,435	The answer would depend largely on availability and wait times for each reference. As well as price, will you be going AD or grey route? What are you prepared to pay for each of your choices?

12 December 2018, 12:40 AM	#3
Xerxes77 Banned Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Home! Posts: 3,307	Diver for me

12 December 2018, 12:43 AM	#4
rmlovett1 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Richard Location: GA Watch: YTBD Posts: 23,509	Out of your choices...I’d go with a Submariner (either one is a great daily)

12 December 2018, 12:52 AM	#7
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,369	I've owned all 3 and still have the LVc.

12 December 2018, 01:01 AM	#8
SpunkyQ8 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Aj Location: Kuwait Watch: RM,AP,PP,RLX,PAM Posts: 1,056	I'll stick to Rolex for an all rounder. IMO it the diver wouldn't look neat on a suit. however I do wear my Rolex from work to the beach and then back out to a night out ..

12 December 2018, 01:02 AM	#9
LNazmm "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 25	I'd go with the black sub date. The hulk is a beauty, no doubt, but I feel it's a little more of a novelty, which may wane over time. A black sub is a black sub....

12 December 2018, 01:24 AM	#10
jeffnnj "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Northern NJ Posts: 763	What material is the watch and bezel on the AP? If it’s stainless you need to consider that it’s not babied it will look like hell in a shirt period of time. If the bezel is rubber it will need to be changed at service and AP service ain’t cheap. Your cost of ownership between Rolex and AP is VERY different. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

12 December 2018, 01:36 AM	#12
Pauln "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Real Name: Paul Location: Colorado Watch: Explorer Posts: 1,543	Out of those three, sub, but you should really look at the Explorer.

12 December 2018, 01:43 AM	#15
Ungucpho Banned Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Earth Posts: 264	Vote for black sub date from me

12 December 2018, 01:45 AM	#17
opawlows "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Earth Watch: Rolex/Tudor/PAM Posts: 1,271	Is the black bezel GMT in the running for your one and only?

12 December 2018, 02:02 AM	#19
ROLEXster "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Vancouver, BC Watch: is on BS wait list Posts: 990	If one and only ... go with black sub date

12 December 2018, 02:03 AM	#20
The Libertine Banned Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: Mike Location: BOS Watch: 16710;14060;214270 Posts: 6,375	Submariner Date is my pick of the three options.

12 December 2018, 02:05 AM	#22
szabo_martin "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Canada Watch: 5711,Sub,DS,YM42 Posts: 814	Id do black sub over the ROO if you only have one watch. Mainly because the ROO is used and unless it just came from AP factory service your in for a hefty and long service in your near future.

12 December 2018, 02:11 AM	#23
^m9 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Burnaby, BC Posts: 23	I vote for the black Sub date. Most versatile of the three. I have grown to love the Hulk, but the timelessness of the black Sub wins out for me. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk

12 December 2018, 02:22 AM	#24
mistercoach32 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Wisconsin Watch: SD43 Posts: 894	If it were me, I'd go one of the Subs. I've had a date (black) and no date Sub. Both are long gone and I now have the LVc, but I also have a BLNR so the black dial scratches that itch. Just depends on your personality and which one sings to you. My history is such that every watch I wasn't 100% onboard with prior to owning has ended up getting sold sooner than later.

12 December 2018, 02:56 AM	#26
Easy E 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: GA Posts: 5,075	One watch is not a collection, its A watch. Given your choices the Sub Date is the most all round useful, to me. E-

12 December 2018, 03:06 AM	#28
vman 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Capt Swerve Location: North Carolina Watch: less TV Posts: 2,230	New Hulk. Any black Sub that is not a 5 digit--a commodity. AP ROO--a grotesque misinterpretation of the original. My opinions, of course ;-) __________________ Collector and buyer of Lange, VC, Patek \| 2 FA Enabled

12 December 2018, 03:08 AM	#29
breitlings Banned Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Bethesda Watch: Apple TV Posts: 5,744	do you want to tell time or look good? looking good roo, telling time rolex. the ap does look really good though.

12 December 2018, 03:14 AM	#30
ocwatching "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Phil Location: CA Posts: 5,374	having had all these pieces..AP Diver is not a great daily..and its got too much drama associated with service times and cost.. robust, easy and accurate..rolex would be my daily __________________ too much into watches...

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