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extra260 · 1 January 2019, 03:09 PM

Can’t decide between a Sub date (current model) or a yachtmast (current model) . Any input from those that own both or have owned both ? It seems as if the yachtmaster can be had for not much more money than the Sub date from trusted sellers and also NIB. Clearly not as much demand but possibly a best kept secret? Is the yachtmaster less desirable because of the scratch prone bezel and the lack of the glide lock bracelet? Help me see the pros and cons to the yachtmaster, Sub seems to speak for its self.

TswaneNguni · 1 January 2019, 03:16 PM

Sub C date

jaisonline · 1 January 2019, 03:21 PM

Sub

101031-28 · 1 January 2019, 03:24 PM

Sub C, hands down

teabags001 · 1 January 2019, 03:24 PM

Stand out and get the yacht master. You won’t be disappointed. Unless your a diver. The yacht master was originally made to be a higher end submariner. If buying retail then the sub is a better buy. But on the second hand market the yacht master is a steal compared to the sub. Remember the Daytona wasn’t popular at first. I can see the same happening to the yacht masters in the future. The platinum dial gives it a nice weight and it’s slimmer then the sub too. Hope that helps you out.

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extra260 · 1 January 2019, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by teabags001

Stand out and get the yacht master. You won’t be disappointed. Unless your a diver. The yacht master was originally made to be a higher end submariner. If buying retail then the sub is a better buy. But on the second hand market the yacht master is a steal compared to the sub. Remember the Daytona wasn’t popular at first. I can see the same happening to the yacht masters in the future. The platinum dial gives it a nice weight and it’s slimmer then the sub too. Hope that helps you out.

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I have always liked being different from the masses so I’m thinking Yachtmaster might be for me. As a Rolex newbie , I see the YM as the submariners big brother.

jaisonline · 1 January 2019, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by extra260

I have always liked being different from the masses so I’m thinking Yachtmaster might be for me. As a Rolex newbie , I see the YM as the submariners big brother.

Maybe.

Then again, you might end up selling the YM for a Sub like me. That was one of my three newbie mistakes I fixed.

The YM (while a nice watch ) isn't the Sub's big bro though.

If you end up going for a YM, go different and get the 5 digit platinum dial one.

extra260 · 1 January 2019, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jaisonline

Maybe.

Then again, you might end up selling the YM for a Sub like me. That was one of my three newbie mistakes I fixed.

The YM (while a nice watch ) isn't the Sub's big bro though.

What about the YM was a mistake ? I value the real world experience feedback.

opawlows · 1 January 2019, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by extra260

Is the yachtmaster less desirable because of the scratch prone bezel t? Help me see the pros and cons to the yachtmaster, Sub seems to speak for its self.

I don't think the bezel is any more scratch prone than any of the other non-ceramic bezels. I had my yachtmaster for roughly 8 years, wore it in regular rotation and did not have any major wear marks on the bezel when I sold it. I found the case extremely comfortable on the wrist and had many non-WIS folks comment on how nice the watch looked.

Been thinking of adding the two-tone chocolate dial YM in the future!

superstarmar · 1 January 2019, 03:57 PM

Another Sub vote !!!

Tony8959 · 1 January 2019, 03:59 PM

As I wear my Sub now.. I guarantee you won’t be disappointed. It’s the go all, do everything watch.

harvey · 1 January 2019, 04:29 PM

Unless you already have a sub, the answer is always a sub!

LuminousMaximus · 1 January 2019, 04:33 PM

I would say get the Sub, because my YM's will become more desirable as time goes on...

WaxedElvis · 1 January 2019, 04:46 PM

Own both Sub-date and YM blue dial. YM for me any day. Don't get me wrong, sub is great but YM is sleeker and less common. Concern about bezel is over blown. Good luck with your choice - no wrong one here.

FrankNYC · 1 January 2019, 04:46 PM

If you want to be different get a Jaeger LeCoultre chronograph. The sub is iconic. It’s legendary—it’s the original Bond watch. It’s the watch Jacques Cousteau, Paul Newman and countless other trend setters have worn. I’ve known and desired a submariner since the 70s, 80s and finally when I got my own in the 90s.
That said, I’ve owned 5 submariners. 2 of them I flipped because of the stigma. Because everyone else had one and I wanted to be different. You know what? After I flipped them I missed them and regretted it. So how did I come to terms with this? I stopped caring. I wear what I want and the sub sings to me and I am drawn to it. If you have to look for reasons to not get the sub you’ll regret and desire the Sub.
A quick fix that i do is since many people in NY wear subs is I wear mine under the cuff. That watch is for me, not for others. I also wear a 114060 (“no date”) sub. ie the original sub. Most of the subs you’ll see are the sub date.

HogwldFLTR · 1 January 2019, 04:50 PM

There are a lot of YMs in dealers show rooms. The Sub is more desirable if that means anything to you.

yannis · 1 January 2019, 05:03 PM

I prefer the Submariner but both are great watches.

alwo · 1 January 2019, 05:05 PM

submariner all day errrday

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extra260 · 1 January 2019, 05:10 PM

Thanks all for the replies and opinions, might just have to buy both

stockjock1975 · 1 January 2019, 05:19 PM

This one just stands out from the crowd

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cvo · 1 January 2019, 05:42 PM

Sub first- YM second. You won’t be disappointed. I don’t see a YM as daily go to watch.

Krash · 1 January 2019, 07:29 PM

Submariner.

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tyler1980 · 1 January 2019, 07:43 PM

i prefer the YM.

My thinking is like this: I prefer a GMT to a Sub and visually a GMT and a Sub look almost identical so i would not have both (LN's). Therefore a YM adds some variety

Because i would never not own a GMT LN , i would never own a sub LN. Maybe a hulk, but thats it. If it was me i would probably compare a GMT vs a sub and not a sub vs a YM.

Ljung · 1 January 2019, 07:47 PM

Neither. Get a Celini, or stay away from Rolex if you really want to stand out and to be different from the masses.
Rolex is too common to the masses.

But, why?
Try to get the one you smile upon everytime looking at it.

peterpl · 1 January 2019, 07:49 PM

That YM with blue dial is a very attractive watch. Get that for something different.

Everyone has a black sub-c

Carrera_2 · 1 January 2019, 07:58 PM

Submariner, unless the YM you want is the rose gold.

Brew · 1 January 2019, 09:36 PM

YM is a much more attractive, comfortable piece, imo. I don't care for ceramic bezels, and the YM platinum bezel has worn just fine in the time I've had it.

MJ8 · 1 January 2019, 09:58 PM

Sub

thesharkfactor · 1 January 2019, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by stockjock1975

This one just stands out from the crowd

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Wow, stunning picture!

Joergen · 1 January 2019, 10:07 PM

The YM is less popular because it's not as beautiful as the SubC (this is from my point of view). However, I can't deny that there's something special about the blue dial version of the YM!
I'd still choose the SubC!

1 January 2019, 03:09 PM	#1
extra260 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: CA Posts: 112	Can’t decide : Sub vs yachtmaster Can’t decide between a Sub date (current model) or a yachtmast (current model) . Any input from those that own both or have owned both ? It seems as if the yachtmaster can be had for not much more money than the Sub date from trusted sellers and also NIB. Clearly not as much demand but possibly a best kept secret? Is the yachtmaster less desirable because of the scratch prone bezel and the lack of the glide lock bracelet? Help me see the pros and cons to the yachtmaster, Sub seems to speak for its self.

1 January 2019, 03:24 PM	#4
101031-28 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: USA Watch: 1665 Posts: 4,764	Sub C, hands down __________________ He could not just wear a watch. It had to be a Rolex. Ian Fleming

1 January 2019, 04:33 PM	#13
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1 January 2019, 04:50 PM	#16
HogwldFLTR 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Real Name: Lee Location: 42.48.45N70.48.48 Watch: Too many to list! Posts: 33,692	There are a lot of YMs in dealers show rooms. The Sub is more desirable if that means anything to you. __________________ Troglodyte in residence! https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=808599

1 January 2019, 05:03 PM	#17
yannis "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: Yannis Location: Europe Watch: maniac Posts: 9,070	I prefer the Submariner but both are great watches. __________________ Rolex Submariner 116610LV \| Tudor 79220N DSSD MEMBERS - OWNERS CLUB

1 January 2019, 03:16 PM	#2
TswaneNguni "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: . Watch: Daytonas/Subs/GMTs Posts: 12,609	Sub C date

1 January 2019, 03:21 PM	#3
jaisonline 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: USA Watch: 5 digit models Posts: 1,516	Sub

1 January 2019, 03:24 PM	#5
teabags001 Banned Join Date: May 2017 Location: USA Watch: DD40, hulk, Dayton Posts: 2,039	Stand out and get the yacht master. You won’t be disappointed. Unless your a diver. The yacht master was originally made to be a higher end submariner. If buying retail then the sub is a better buy. But on the second hand market the yacht master is a steal compared to the sub. Remember the Daytona wasn’t popular at first. I can see the same happening to the yacht masters in the future. The platinum dial gives it a nice weight and it’s slimmer then the sub too. Hope that helps you out. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

1 January 2019, 03:57 PM	#10
superstarmar Banned Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: In Motion Watch: my wrist presence Posts: 7,436	Another Sub vote !!!

1 January 2019, 03:59 PM	#11
Tony8959 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: NYC Posts: 454	As I wear my Sub now.. I guarantee you won’t be disappointed. It’s the go all, do everything watch.

1 January 2019, 04:29 PM	#12
harvey "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: rolexforums.com Posts: 5,435	Unless you already have a sub, the answer is always a sub!

1 January 2019, 04:46 PM	#14
WaxedElvis "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: USA Posts: 313	Own both Sub-date and YM blue dial. YM for me any day. Don't get me wrong, sub is great but YM is sleeker and less common. Concern about bezel is over blown. Good luck with your choice - no wrong one here.

1 January 2019, 04:46 PM	#15
FrankNYC 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: New York Watch: SubC & Red;JLC RDM Posts: 1,039	If you want to be different get a Jaeger LeCoultre chronograph. The sub is iconic. It’s legendary—it’s the original Bond watch. It’s the watch Jacques Cousteau, Paul Newman and countless other trend setters have worn. I’ve known and desired a submariner since the 70s, 80s and finally when I got my own in the 90s. That said, I’ve owned 5 submariners. 2 of them I flipped because of the stigma. Because everyone else had one and I wanted to be different. You know what? After I flipped them I missed them and regretted it. So how did I come to terms with this? I stopped caring. I wear what I want and the sub sings to me and I am drawn to it. If you have to look for reasons to not get the sub you’ll regret and desire the Sub. A quick fix that i do is since many people in NY wear subs is I wear mine under the cuff. That watch is for me, not for others. I also wear a 114060 (“no date”) sub. ie the original sub. Most of the subs you’ll see are the sub date.

1 January 2019, 05:05 PM	#18
alwo "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: TRF Watch: 116523, 114060 Posts: 124	submariner all day errrday Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

1 January 2019, 05:10 PM	#19
extra260 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: CA Posts: 112	Thanks all for the replies and opinions, might just have to buy both

1 January 2019, 05:19 PM	#20
stockjock1975 Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: Brian Location: Cleveland, OH Watch: Platona Posts: 1,569	This one just stands out from the crowd Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

1 January 2019, 05:42 PM	#21
cvo "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: C Vo Location: Georgia Watch: 117610LN 116610LN Posts: 1,014	Sub first- YM second. You won’t be disappointed. I don’t see a YM as daily go to watch.

1 January 2019, 07:29 PM	#22
Krash 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Florida Watch: Sub, DJ41, GMT Posts: 8,253	Submariner. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

1 January 2019, 07:43 PM	#23
tyler1980 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Houston Posts: 17,622	i prefer the YM. My thinking is like this: I prefer a GMT to a Sub and visually a GMT and a Sub look almost identical so i would not have both (LN's). Therefore a YM adds some variety Because i would never not own a GMT LN , i would never own a sub LN. Maybe a hulk, but thats it. If it was me i would probably compare a GMT vs a sub and not a sub vs a YM. __________________ Instagram: tyler.watches current collection: Patek 5164A, Patek 5524G, Rolex Platinum Daytona 116506, Rolex Sea Dweller 43 126600, Rolex GMT II 116710LN, AP 15400ST (silver), Panerai 913, Omega Speedmaster moonwatch, Tudor Black Bay (Harrods Edition)

1 January 2019, 07:47 PM	#24
Ljung "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Singapore Posts: 284	Neither. Get a Celini, or stay away from Rolex if you really want to stand out and to be different from the masses. Rolex is too common to the masses. But, why? Try to get the one you smile upon everytime looking at it.

1 January 2019, 07:49 PM	#25
peterpl Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: . Posts: 6,692	That YM with blue dial is a very attractive watch. Get that for something different. Everyone has a black sub-c

1 January 2019, 07:58 PM	#26
Carrera_2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: London, UK Watch: 116710LN Posts: 114	Submariner, unless the YM you want is the rose gold.

1 January 2019, 09:36 PM	#27
Brew "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Real Name: Larry Location: Finger Lakes Posts: 6,007	YM is a much more attractive, comfortable piece, imo. I don't care for ceramic bezels, and the YM platinum bezel has worn just fine in the time I've had it.

1 January 2019, 09:58 PM	#28
MJ8 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: UK Watch: 116610LN Posts: 424	Sub

1 January 2019, 10:07 PM	#30
Joergen "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,762	The YM is less popular because it's not as beautiful as the SubC (this is from my point of view). However, I can't deny that there's something special about the blue dial version of the YM! I'd still choose the SubC!

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