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Old 17 March 2019, 12:24 PM   #1
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Hello all - just looking for a little bit of feedback. I know I need to go with “ what I like “ or “ what the rest of my collection looks like “ but there have been 2 watches really grabbing my eye lately and I ran into a possible trade for either.

1 11610LV F serial, complete set with fat four and mk1 dial
2 99% 16710 true Pepsi with 3186 movement

I will need to possibly add a tiny tiny bit of cash to get into either.

I love my Daytona but it splits time with my ceramic sub honestly. I just don’t want to sell myself short here and want opinions of value comparison/ comfort comparison between the 3 models.

Problem is not sure I will be able to get a Daytona C again without paying so much but as any can relate, I need something new and am very attracted to these two pieces. Thanks!
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Old 17 March 2019, 12:31 PM   #2
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Both watches 1 & 2 are selling for premiums well above what may be considered normal used prices for those particular watch models.

If you prefer the Daytona then get the Daytona, because you will be paying a big premium which ever way you go with the options listed above.
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Old 17 March 2019, 12:32 PM   #3
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I appreciate your input but I currently have the Daytona. Basically the two models mentioned I am seeing less and less of, and the prices going higher and higher and I have an opportunity to get into one of them with my current piece and just was looking for feedback on value, as well as future value (even though no one knows), or if I’m over paying with my Daytona for either.
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Old 17 March 2019, 01:12 PM   #4
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I would keep the Daytona in this case. First of all, I wouldn’t trade Daytona with any 16710. As for the 16610lv, I personally like it over the Daytona, however I’m not able to absorb the premium on the flat 4. Unless for some specific reason you only interested in the flat 4, I would try to keep the Daytona and find a Z or D series LV with full set and good condition.
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Old 17 March 2019, 01:32 PM   #5
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Personally I would leverage that Daytona for a PM piece.
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Old 17 March 2019, 02:55 PM   #6
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Old 17 March 2019, 02:58 PM   #7
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Personally I would leverage that Daytona for a PM piece.
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Old 17 March 2019, 03:11 PM   #8
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Personally I would leverage that Daytona for a PM piece.
Bang on.

Cash in on the Daytona man. After handling so many of them they are imho are nowhere near worth their asking prices for the SS pieces.

Cash in and upgrade to PM or your idea also sounds good. Get a Kermit and original pepsi for the Daytona but I would aim for a direct trade with no money either way if you can.
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Old 17 March 2019, 03:12 PM   #9
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If I didn’t have one already, I would be doing everything it took to get the 16610LV. Especially with the F serial. I believe there is no ceiling for this time piece and they will continue to rise in price. Imagine some 14 year old who is extremely driven. He’s going to go to college and become a finance guru. He’s only heard tales of the elusive anniversary Submariner with the green bezel. He’s never seen one in person. When he makes his first 100K there will be nothing stopping him from purchasing one. There is no stopping this watch...


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Old 17 March 2019, 04:00 PM   #10
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Ask yourself would you pay the cash/market price for either of those watches? If yes, then if trading your Daytona is your preferred method to finance the watch, then go for it. If no, then keep the Daytona, or sell it and pocket the cash/profit until something that you truly want and find is worth paying for comes along
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Old 17 March 2019, 04:10 PM   #11
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I would keep the Daytona in this case. First of all, I wouldn’t trade Daytona with any 16710. As for the 16610lv, I personally like it over the Daytona, however I’m not able to absorb the premium on the flat 4. Unless for some specific reason you only interested in the flat 4, I would try to keep the Daytona and find a Z or D series LV with full set and good condition.
I agree with this and I too prefer the LV over the Daytona but that doesn’t make that particular trade a good one in my opinion. Keep the Daytona and try get the LV in future or with another trade. Good luck!
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Old 17 March 2019, 04:27 PM   #12
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I would do it for a straight swap, I would not add any cash. You can negotiate a better deal. I actually sold one of my Daytona's last week and cashed in on the hype of the Daytona to fund my next piece. You are in a good position to command a better deal. Let us know how you get on.
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Old 17 March 2019, 04:53 PM   #13
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Yiasou Niko! I would get the 16710 with the 3186 movement. The 16710 is such an amazing timepiece when you add all 3 inserts and jubilee/oyster bracelet. It’s one of my favorite watches! Let us know what you decide.
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Old 17 March 2019, 05:11 PM   #14
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I would get a Pepsi with the older movement - something like a D serial. Much cheaper and in reality no different. If you can find a later lv then you have a chance to add both for not too much on top.

Not sure I’d go with a flat 4 or 3186 personally as the premium is so high.

If adding cash is not an issue, maybe think about pm as above also.



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Old 17 March 2019, 05:39 PM   #15
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Appreciate all the feedback. I am being asked to add 1,000 on top for the lv because it is f serial and an early one with the mk1 dial and flat 4 bezel complete unpolished. He is asking 23k which is really high but not many complete examples I have seen. Thoughts ?

When you say precious metal what model are you referring to?
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Old 17 March 2019, 05:46 PM   #16
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If I didn’t have one already, I would be doing everything it took to get the 16610LV. Especially with the F serial. I believe there is no ceiling for this time piece and they will continue to rise in price. Imagine some 14 year old who is extremely driven. He’s going to go to college and become a finance guru. He’s only heard tales of the elusive anniversary Submariner with the green bezel. He’s never seen one in person. When he makes his first 100K there will be nothing stopping him from purchasing one. There is no stopping this watch...


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The ceramic Daytona is still in production and will be for years. For an F serial complete set 16610LV, especially if it is unpolished, I would go for it. It only gets rarer.
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Old 17 March 2019, 06:48 PM   #17
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The ceramic Daytona is still in production and will be for years. For an F serial complete set 16610LV, especially if it is unpolished, I would go for it. It only gets rarer.
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Old 17 March 2019, 07:10 PM   #18
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The ceramic Daytona is still in production and will be for years. For an F serial complete set 16610LV, especially if it is unpolished, I would go for it. It only gets rarer.
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Old 17 March 2019, 07:36 PM   #19
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I’m just realising he meant a Kermit I thought it was a Hulk as it said 11610LV got confused. Yes a Kermit especially if you absolutely love it could be a good choice.
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Old 17 March 2019, 08:08 PM   #20
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Get the Kermit. If you regret it, you’ll always be able to sell it at a higher price than the Daytona.
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Old 17 March 2019, 09:24 PM   #21
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Old 17 March 2019, 10:06 PM   #22
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I'd sell the sub and add cash instead. D500 and Kermit is the ideal, no?
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Old 17 March 2019, 10:09 PM   #23
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I’d do the trade in a heartbeat. I prefer LV and the 710 to the Daytona, so easy choice for me.
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Old 17 March 2019, 10:09 PM   #24
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Old 17 March 2019, 10:19 PM   #25
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Appreciate all the feedback. I am being asked to add 1,000 on top for the lv because it is f serial and an early one with the mk1 dial and flat 4 bezel complete unpolished. He is asking 23k which is really high but not many complete examples I have seen. Thoughts ?

When you say precious metal what model are you referring to?
$23k for a LV is insane. Only you can decide if that’s good for you, but zero percent chance I would give a 500c and cash. You should be able to find a Kermit that nets you back up to $8k. Keep looking brother.
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Hello all - just looking for a little bit of feedback. I know I need to go with “ what I like “ or “ what the rest of my collection looks like “ but there have been 2 watches really grabbing my eye lately and I ran into a possible trade for either.

1 11610LV F serial, complete set with fat four and mk1 dial
2 99% 16710 true Pepsi with 3186 movement

I will need to possibly add a tiny tiny bit of cash to get into either.

I love my Daytona but it splits time with my ceramic sub honestly. I just don’t want to sell myself short here and want opinions of value comparison/ comfort comparison between the 3 models.

Problem is not sure I will be able to get a Daytona C again without paying so much but as any can relate, I need something new and am very attracted to these two pieces. Thanks!


This is hard to say as I too have issues with my Daytona. The 16610lv is bananas in price and the green simply not as versatile as the plane black. Really it only says ok, I paid a premium for a regular sub that’s not nearly as versatile as the traditional black-well congrats.

The Pepsi, ad many indicate below is versatile due to the bezels, but as soon as you buy it will likely drop down to the 13-15 grand in value. You may be able to get a 99% Pepsi without the 3186 and still have enough left over for another piece. The 16610 is great, but is it worth the premium? Don’t know. Yes, it is rare, but are you flipping for collecting or wearing?

If wearing, perhaps face it for an older polar explorer ii and Pepsi without the 3186.
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Old 18 March 2019, 12:23 AM   #27
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This is hard to say as I too have issues with my Daytona. The 16610lv is bananas in price and the green simply not as versatile as the plane black. Really it only says ok, I paid a premium for a regular sub that’s not nearly as versatile as the traditional black-well congrats.

The Pepsi, ad many indicate below is versatile due to the bezels, but as soon as you buy it will likely drop down to the 13-15 grand in value. You may be able to get a 99% Pepsi without the 3186 and still have enough left over for another piece. The 16610 is great, but is it worth the premium? Don’t know. Yes, it is rare, but are you flipping for collecting or wearing?

If wearing, perhaps face it for an older polar explorer ii and Pepsi without the 3186.
Flipping for collecting. Basically the gmt and Kermit I anticipate with get harder rot find and wanted to use the Daytona to get into one now since I found two perfect examples.
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Old 18 March 2019, 12:30 AM   #28
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I agree with leveraging for pm
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Old 18 March 2019, 12:43 AM   #29
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Personally I would leverage that Daytona for a PM piece.


This guy says it right. Love the Daytona C, but once you go PM, you won’t look back. Join the club!


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Get the 99% 16710 true Pepsi with 3186 movement. Instant collectors item and will be forever.

I would ditch the ceramic Sub. I think the Daytona is just more comfortable and is the pinnacle of sports watches IMH.

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