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Old 3 April 2019, 01:19 PM   #1
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116520 vs 16520

Will the 116520 sky rocket in price like the zenith movement Daytona ? And will it become a collectors watch in the future ?

Thinking of buying one of them
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Old 3 April 2019, 01:27 PM   #2
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It's a possibility, the SS Daytona has a history of steady appreciation over time, would not be surprised if the 116520 follows in the footsteps of the 16520 over the course of the next 25-30 years. Are you buying to wear, for investment?
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Old 3 April 2019, 01:27 PM   #3
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The 116520 will always have value as a beautifully designed watch. With the 16520’s going for almost $30k and 116500’s past the $20k mark, the 116520’s are a bargain.
Luckily I bought both white and black 116520’s at retail.
The white is my most worn watch. The black is gorgeous but not as legible.
Either 116520 is a great watch, that’s why it should be a safe buy.
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Old 3 April 2019, 01:31 PM   #4
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The 116520 will always have value as a beautifully designed watch. With the 16520’s going for almost $30k and 116500’s past the $20k mark, the 116520’s are a bargain.
x2! A bargain right now, it's pretty much a C500 without the ceramic bezel. I love to have a 16520 but too much $$$ for me now
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Old 3 April 2019, 01:32 PM   #5
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It's a possibility, the SS Daytona has a history of steady appreciation over time, would not be surprised if the 116520 follows in the footsteps of the 16520 over the course of the next 25-30 years. Are you buying to wear, for investment?


Both reasons haha


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Old 3 April 2019, 01:37 PM   #6
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For the money, I would pick up a complete set 116520, wear it and watch it appreciate over time
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Old 3 April 2019, 01:52 PM   #7
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I'm going to be a bit contrarian here at the risk of upsetting other 116520 owners. The 116520 was produced over a much longer period after Rolex developed its own in house movement. In contrast, the 16520 was limited in supply from the get go, due to issues in sourcing adequate movements from Zenith.

Scarcity points to 16520 appreciating at a much faster rate, but then again you never know!

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Old 3 April 2019, 02:32 PM   #8
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x2! A bargain right now, it's pretty much a C500 without the ceramic bezel. I love to have a 16520 but too much $$$ for me now


Yes! And I prefer the steel bezel of the 116520. Has a much higher-end feel than the 116500.


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Old 3 April 2019, 03:35 PM   #9
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do it. Daytona is a must have watch....there is a reason why the most expensive watch is the Daytona :)

if you don't double your money in 3 years on a watch, then don't waste your money on a watch.
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Old 3 April 2019, 03:42 PM   #10
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If I recall correctly, there was some panic selling of the 116520 when the 116500 was released. Thoughts were that the price would tank. I am sure I remember people offering them for sale for USD8,000.... Unless I am going completely mad ( highly possible ).

Nonetheless they have certainly appreciated in the past few years. I paid retail down under AUD13,350 in 2013 - and they are fetching in the mid AUD $20,000's now - if you can find one in Australia
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I'm going to be a bit contrarian here at the risk of upsetting other 116520 owners. The 116520 was produced over a much longer period after Rolex developed its own in house movement. In contrast, the 16520 was limited in supply from the get go, due to issues in sourcing adequate movements from Zenith.

Scarcity points to 16520 appreciating at a much faster rate, but then again you never know!

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Finding mint complete 16520's that are unpolished and collector worthy not an easy task nowadays. Most are over polished and look so so with banged up bezels. Personally I would rather spend more and get 16520 over a 116520 all day long. The dials, the patina, the case and non polished lugs etc. all make the 16520 to me the one to own.

With that said nothing wrong with 116520's it's just they will never be the 16520!
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I have and like both. No wrong choice here.
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Old 3 April 2019, 09:15 PM   #14
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Both are great choices but finding in collector condition is near impossible for the zenith so the 116520 is more attainable. I own and love both. The 116520 has more heft and weight to it if you care about that
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Old 3 April 2019, 09:39 PM   #15
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the 116520 and 16520 are both great watches. Cant go wrong.
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Old 3 April 2019, 09:58 PM   #16
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If I recall correctly, there was some panic selling of the 116520 when the 116500 was released. Thoughts were that the price would tank. I am sure I remember people offering them for sale for USD8,000.... Unless I am going completely mad ( highly possible ).

Nonetheless they have certainly appreciated in the past few years. I paid retail down under AUD13,350 in 2013 - and they are fetching in the mid AUD $20,000's now - if you can find one in Australia
I paid $9000 for my NOS skinny hand 116520 at that time.
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Old 3 April 2019, 10:04 PM   #17
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If I recall correctly, there was some panic selling of the 116520 when the 116500 was released. Thoughts were that the price would tank. I am sure I remember people offering them for sale for USD8,000.... Unless I am going completely mad ( highly possible ).
Yes, it was around 8-9K. I had a post asking for opinions to choose 116520 or wait for 116500. I ended up waiting and regret now. Less than $9K was no brainer!!
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I'm going to be a bit contrarian here at the risk of upsetting other 116520 owners. The 116520 was produced over a much longer period after Rolex developed its own in house movement. In contrast, the 16520 was limited in supply from the get go, due to issues in sourcing adequate movements from Zenith.

Scarcity points to 16520 appreciating at a much faster rate, but then again you never know!

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I was thinking that too, but then remembered the absurd prices of the older Pepsi models which are in absolutely positively no way scarce what so ever and have ballooned in prices beyond belief. These things can be hard to predict!
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Will the 116520 sky rocket in price like the zenith movement Daytona ? And will it become a collectors watch in the future ?

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Hard to say as the zenith Daytona is indeed a collector item, but was produced for a great deal of time and are hardly scarce. The 116520 was also produced for a long time but marks the first iteration with an in-house movement. Folks get nastalgic about the zenith movement, but the in-house Rolex movement is a better movement period. I also feel that the move to the ceramic bezel really marks the shift to form over function and farther away from the tool watch concept. Nothing wrong with that per se though. It’s also my understanding that the first Daytona’s has the steel bezels and later moved to the black bezels, so some may feel a little more closer to the heritage.

But In the end, the prices of Rolex has not been tied to any sense of rationality, so who really knows lol.
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Hard to say as the zenith Daytona is indeed a collector item, but was produced for a great deal of time and are hardly scarce. The 116520 was also produced for a long time but marks the first iteration with an in-house movement. Folks get nastalgic about the zenith movement, but the in-house Rolex movement is a better movement period. I also feel that the move to the ceramic bezel really marks the shift to form over function and farther away from the tool watch concept. Nothing wrong with that per se though. It’s also my understanding that the first Daytona’s has the steel bezels and later moved to the black bezels, so some may feel a little more closer to the heritage.

But In the end, the prices of Rolex has not been tied to any sense of rationality, so who really knows lol.
Decent condition 16520s are indeed rare. Doubly so when you consider all the desirable variants.

I'm a big 116520 fan. It, like the SD4K, is one of the very few watches to combine the nicer modern updates with proportions that aren't terrible. That's why I bought mine.
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Old 3 April 2019, 11:24 PM   #21
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Decent condition 16520s are indeed rare. Doubly so when you consider all the desirable variants.

I'm a big 116520 fan. It, like the SD4K, is one of the very few watches to combine the nicer modern updates with proportions that aren't terrible. That's why I bought mine.
Well, SD4K was resounding flop with proportions actually terrible. It was one of the only times Rolex did a mistake and discontinued a watch in 3 flat years. It was such a slow seller and was selling below around $8K new with MSRP $11K. Folks just buy flop models hoping history will repeat itself like Paul Newman Daytonas and this increases the hype. That's all there to the SD4K. It will never be another Daytona.
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Well, SD4K was resounding flop with proportions actually terrible. It was one of the only times Rolex did a mistake and discontinued a watch in 3 flat years. It was such a slow seller and was selling below around $8K new with MSRP $11K. Folks just buy flop models hoping history will repeat itself like Paul Newman Daytonas and this increases the hype. That's all there to the SD4K. It will never be another Daytona.
Slow your roll partner. We're talking watches, not world peace.

The SD has always sold poorly and it has nothing to due with lacking an absurdly fat case. It lacked the date bubble and was much more expensive than the similar looking Sub.
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Old 4 April 2019, 12:57 AM   #23
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Love both and you really can't go wrong with either
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do it. Daytona is a must have watch....there is a reason why the most expensive watch is the Daytona :)

if you don't double your money in 3 years on a watch, then don't waste your money on a watch.
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I don't think any Daytona is a bargain. I bought one because I collect chronographs. The Daytona cost more than my other four chronographs combined.
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Well, SD4K was resounding flop with proportions actually terrible. It was one of the only times Rolex did a mistake and discontinued a watch in 3 flat years. It was such a slow seller and was selling below around $8K new with MSRP $11K. Folks just buy flop models hoping history will repeat itself like Paul Newman Daytonas and this increases the hype. That's all there to the SD4K. It will never be another Daytona.
Pshhh...tell us how you really feel.

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Think I’m going to buy the 116520 black dial with Stickers on ino very rare the guy left it in a safe..


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Finding mint complete 16520's that are unpolished and collector worthy not an easy task nowadays. Most are over polished and look so so with banged up bezels. Personally I would rather spend more and get 16520 over a 116520 all day long. The dials, the patina, the case and non polished lugs etc. all make the 16520 to me the one to own.

With that said nothing wrong with 116520's it's just they will never be the 16520!
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I have and like both. No wrong choice here.
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