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xjeeunitx · 4 June 2019, 06:16 AM

Tried to informed to seller. I was insulted with words you can't imagine. Let's get this taken down.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rolex-Subma...5bca%7Ciid%3A1

davidlupe · 4 June 2019, 07:10 AM

What are the signs that its a fake?

Trepang · 4 June 2019, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by davidlupe

What are the signs that its a fake?

I'd like to know as well.

lear60man · 4 June 2019, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by davidlupe

What are the signs that its a fake?

Spelling out the specific 'Tells' only helps the scammers. But......at first glance poor quality all around. The easiest way is to ask for a serial number and google it.

77T · 4 June 2019, 08:02 AM

With those low resolution photo’s I couldn’t really inspect it closely enough to be certain of anything.

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xspect · 4 June 2019, 08:04 AM

Isnt the blue tint on the crystal a tell ?

911NBK · 4 June 2019, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by 77T

With those low resolution photo’s I couldn’t really inspect it closely enough to be certain of anything.

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My thoughts exactly.

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77T · 4 June 2019, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by xspect

Isnt the blue tint on the crystal a tell ?

Do you mean this photo with a blue dot on the cyclops ?

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thesharkfactor · 4 June 2019, 09:27 AM

It looks ok to me.. could do with better pics, but I don’t see any immediate red flags.

GLADIATOR · 4 June 2019, 09:34 AM

Looked closely, nothing screams fake to me?
Not reported

xjeeunitx · 4 June 2019, 11:18 AM

The font of the date wheel and the fact that it is not centered. The cerachrom bezel quality as well as "platinum coating" is off. It's a good quality fake but the all the signs are there.

xjeeunitx · 4 June 2019, 11:20 AM

It looks like it was sold. Shame.

Bigblu10 · 4 June 2019, 11:38 AM

It was a fake and a very bad one at that. Crown guards, dial font, LEC, shape of coronet on buckle, I could go on but a moot point now. Somebody got the shaft, unfortunately.

GLADIATOR · 4 June 2019, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigblu10

It was a fake and a very bad one at that. Crown guards, dial font, LEC, shape of coronet on buckle, I could go on but a moot point now. Somebody got the shaft, unfortunately.

Please post the "LEC" issue!

offrdmania · 4 June 2019, 03:01 PM

You may be looking at the fake one that eBay forwards you to from that link for a supposed church group now that the other auction has ended. I just reported it.

antrolexsub · 4 June 2019, 07:22 PM

Fake, a poor one.

tigey · 5 June 2019, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by lear60man

Spelling out the specific 'Tells' only helps the scammers. But......at first glance poor quality all around. The easiest way is to ask for a serial number and google it.

how does pointing out specific tells help scammers? Wouldnt it help members to be able to spot a fake so they can protect themselves? I dont agree or see how it helps scammers, it will deter them more than anything

GLADIATOR · 5 June 2019, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by tigey

how does pointing out specific tells help scammers? Wouldnt it help members to be able to spot a fake so they can protect themselves? I dont agree or see how it helps scammers, it will deter them more than anything

It helps them a lot.
By pointing out the area that point to it being fake - the seller (scammer) then attempt to hide those areas.

We are not hear to teach or help anyone dupe other, we are here to just simply attempt to authenticate or not

thesharkfactor · 5 June 2019, 03:09 AM

No, I still don't 100% agree it was fake. The crown guards look just like my own (usually THE main giveaway a Submariner is fake), the pics are not clear enough to determine if the dial font is off...and for the record, the date is NOT centred in my watch and it is real..when I took it back to the AD they told me it was within tolerance (granted my own date is not centred for being too high rather too far left). So until here are clearer pics, in my opinion this cannot be determined to be fake beyond reasonable doubt.

..date not centred, genuine watch..

GLADIATOR · 5 June 2019, 03:13 AM

Well not sure what wrong with LEC?
Box looks fake!

antrolexsub · 5 June 2019, 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by thesharkfactor

No, I still don't 100% agree it was fake. The crown guards look just like my own (usually THE main giveaway a Submariner is fake), the pics are not clear enough to determine if the dial font is off...and for the record, the date is NOT centred in my watch and it is real..when I took it back to the AD they told me it was within tolerance (granted my own date is not centred for being too high rather too far left). So until here are clearer pics, in my opinion this cannot be determined to be fake beyond reasonable doubt.

It’s 100% fake.

77T · 5 June 2019, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

It helps them a lot.

By pointing out the area that point to it being fake - the seller (scammer) then attempt to hide those areas.

We are not hear to teach or help anyone dupe other, we are here to just simply attempt to authenticate or not

I agree 1000% Adam. The value here is not to make it easy for stupid scammers to easily pull one off.

If anyone wants a fake spotted it is better to start a thread here in this section.

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nhoj_yelbom · 5 June 2019, 05:23 AM

did anyone notice the clasp? its coming apart, is that a issue on genuine clasps? i was the buyer on ebay

have to quit getting excited and late night browsing

antrolexsub · 5 June 2019, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by nhoj_yelbom

did anyone notice the clasp? its coming apart, is that a issue on genuine clasps? i was the buyer on ebay

have to quit getting excited and late night browsing

Yes. And no, it’s not an issue on a genuine clasp. The watch is fake. I hope you manage to get your money back.

nhoj_yelbom · 5 June 2019, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by antrolexsub

Yes. And no, it’s not an issue on a genuine clasp. The watch is fake. I hope you manage to get your money back.

thankfully never paid, i made a post about it here first.

antrolexsub · 5 June 2019, 05:41 AM

I’m glad to hear. :)

thesharkfactor · 5 June 2019, 06:06 AM

Well spotted. I now accept it's junk

Wahlberg · 5 June 2019, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by nhoj_yelbom

did anyone notice the clasp? its coming apart, is that a issue on genuine clasps? i was the buyer on ebay

have to quit getting excited and late night browsing

How did you find this thread? Lucky for you.

nhoj_yelbom · 5 June 2019, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Wahlberg

How did you find this thread? Lucky for you.

browsing making sure i dont make any more mistakes!

Knappo 1307 · 5 June 2019, 06:27 AM

There's a gap bigger than the gap in Michael Strahans front teeth where the end links meet the case....

4 June 2019, 06:16 AM	#1
xjeeunitx 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 5,527	Another pawn shop selling a fake Submariner Tried to informed to seller. I was insulted with words you can't imagine. Let's get this taken down. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rolex-Subma...5bca%7Ciid%3A1

4 June 2019, 07:10 AM	#2
davidlupe "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Houston Posts: 1	How can you tell What are the signs that its a fake?

4 June 2019, 08:02 AM	#5
77T 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 42,010	With those low resolution photo’s I couldn’t really inspect it closely enough to be certain of anything. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

4 June 2019, 09:34 AM	#10
GLADIATOR "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Adam Location: Costa Blanca, Watch: YMII,GMTII,DAYTONA Posts: 5,288	Looked closely, nothing screams fake to me? Not reported __________________ The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. Winston Churchill "We judge ourselves by what we feel capable of doing, while others judge us by what we have already done."

4 June 2019, 03:01 PM	#15
offrdmania 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Matt Location: Wine Country, Ca Posts: 5,998	You may be looking at the fake one that eBay forwards you to from that link for a supposed church group now that the other auction has ended. I just reported it. __________________ TRF Member 11738

4 June 2019, 08:04 AM	#6
xspect "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: louisiana Posts: 269	Isnt the blue tint on the crystal a tell ?

4 June 2019, 09:27 AM	#9
thesharkfactor "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Scotland Watch: GMT Posts: 3,642	It looks ok to me.. could do with better pics, but I don’t see any immediate red flags.

4 June 2019, 11:18 AM	#11
xjeeunitx 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 5,527	The font of the date wheel and the fact that it is not centered. The cerachrom bezel quality as well as "platinum coating" is off. It's a good quality fake but the all the signs are there.

4 June 2019, 11:20 AM	#12
xjeeunitx 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 5,527	It looks like it was sold. Shame.

4 June 2019, 11:38 AM	#13
Bigblu10 Banned Join Date: Jul 2017 Real Name: Jaime Location: Here Posts: 5,606	It was a fake and a very bad one at that. Crown guards, dial font, LEC, shape of coronet on buckle, I could go on but a moot point now. Somebody got the shaft, unfortunately.

4 June 2019, 07:22 PM	#16
antrolexsub "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Earth Posts: 766	Fake, a poor one.

5 June 2019, 03:09 AM	#19
thesharkfactor "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Scotland Watch: GMT Posts: 3,642	No, I still don't 100% agree it was fake. The crown guards look just like my own (usually THE main giveaway a Submariner is fake), the pics are not clear enough to determine if the dial font is off...and for the record, the date is NOT centred in my watch and it is real..when I took it back to the AD they told me it was within tolerance (granted my own date is not centred for being too high rather too far left). So until here are clearer pics, in my opinion this cannot be determined to be fake beyond reasonable doubt. ..date not centred, genuine watch.. Attached Images

5 June 2019, 03:13 AM	#20
GLADIATOR "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Adam Location: Costa Blanca, Watch: YMII,GMTII,DAYTONA Posts: 5,288	Well not sure what wrong with LEC? Box looks fake! __________________ The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. Winston Churchill "We judge ourselves by what we feel capable of doing, while others judge us by what we have already done."

5 June 2019, 05:23 AM	#23
nhoj_yelbom "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: FL Watch: Swiss Made Posts: 24	did anyone notice the clasp? its coming apart, is that a issue on genuine clasps? i was the buyer on ebay have to quit getting excited and late night browsing

5 June 2019, 05:41 AM	#26
antrolexsub "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Earth Posts: 766	I’m glad to hear. :)

5 June 2019, 06:06 AM	#27
thesharkfactor "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Scotland Watch: GMT Posts: 3,642	Well spotted. I now accept it's junk

5 June 2019, 06:27 AM	#30
Knappo 1307 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: Jason Location: USA Watch: Sea Dweller Posts: 8,561	There's a gap bigger than the gap in Michael Strahans front teeth where the end links meet the case....

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