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rtalk · 29 June 2019, 10:36 AM

We often hear that Gerald Genta designed the Nautilus and the APRO etc ...

but we never discuss who designed the Sub, GMT, and Daytona .. which are iconic in their own right.

Do we know designed the Sub, GMT, and Daytona?

jb335 · 29 June 2019, 10:48 AM

Wow, great question. I have no answers....would like to know too though.

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M45 · 29 June 2019, 10:53 AM

I always thought the sub was a group effort between Wilsdorf, Jeanerret, Cousteau, and some other French sounding dudes.

jrs146 · 29 June 2019, 11:36 AM

My AD said that Hans himself creates every design. He still does.

Ballzzz · 29 June 2019, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jrs146

My AD said that Hans himself creates every design. He still does.

My AD said he stopped by to troubleshoot a watch slot case cover retrofit, ya know the ones that make cases designed to hold watch hold nothing. Supposably he designed those also, go figure.

Etschell · 29 June 2019, 12:33 PM

The secret is out it was all Hans. He designed the sky dweller in 1939.

In all seriousness no one is credited externally from what I know.

schoolboy · 29 June 2019, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Ballzzz

My AD said he stopped by to troubleshoot a watch slot case cover retrofit, ya know the ones that make cases designed to hold watch hold nothing. Supposably he designed those also, go figure.

Haha

rtalk · 29 June 2019, 03:38 PM

That’s crazy. The scholarship on Rolex is lacking.

Macnavara · 29 June 2019, 03:56 PM

Interesting question......you think with such an iconic design somebody would have taken public credit for the design.....having said i suppose the design is probably just a slow evolution of the original wilsdorf design

ever · 29 June 2019, 04:00 PM

rolex secret

904VT · 29 June 2019, 04:00 PM

Well I guess they're all derivatives of the Oyster, so if you take the Royal Oak approach they're all Oysters and Hans. But I'm sure Rolex Professionals have been collabs for years now. IMO 3 of the greatest watches ever made the Sub, GMT Master, Daytona

gleiden · 29 June 2019, 04:03 PM

Great question (beats all the usual stuff). I'd like to know as well.
I'd also like to know who are the key engineers behind the movements. There have to be some central figures driving the teams behind and are the sources of innovation in their R&D departments, but I suspect this is something that might not easily be known.

904VT · 29 June 2019, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by gleiden

Great question (beats all the usual stuff). I'd like to know as well.
I'd also like to know who are the key engineers behind the movements. There have to be some central figures driving the teams behind and are the sources of innovation in their R&D departments, but I suspect this is something that might not easily be known.

Yes, it may be tough finding key figures with Rolex not being a publicly listed company. I think you could get some insight though from Rolex patent filings

SS Oyster · 29 June 2019, 04:12 PM

I heard Al Gore is taking credit for the Submariner...

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29 June 2019, 10:36 AM	#1
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29 June 2019, 11:36 AM	#4
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29 June 2019, 12:33 PM	#6
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29 June 2019, 03:56 PM	#9
Macnavara "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 2,355	Interesting question......you think with such an iconic design somebody would have taken public credit for the design.....having said i suppose the design is probably just a slow evolution of the original wilsdorf design __________________ Exp2 \| Exp1 \| BLNR \| SD43 \| DSSD \| 16710 \| Ak \| 116505 \| 116610 \| 16610 \| 16700 \| Yacht-Master \| 116710 LN \| 126710 BLRO mk1 & mk2 \| 116500LN \| 126610LN \| 126710 GRNR

29 June 2019, 10:48 AM	#2
jb335 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: The States Watch: Cosmograph Daytona Posts: 7,464	Wow, great question. I have no answers....would like to know too though. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

29 June 2019, 10:53 AM	#3
M45 Banned Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: East Bay Area Posts: 551	I always thought the sub was a group effort between Wilsdorf, Jeanerret, Cousteau, and some other French sounding dudes.

29 June 2019, 04:00 PM	#10
ever "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: south Posts: 165	rolex secret

29 June 2019, 04:00 PM	#11
904VT "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: USA Watch: All Rolex Posts: 7,024	Well I guess they're all derivatives of the Oyster, so if you take the Royal Oak approach they're all Oysters and Hans. But I'm sure Rolex Professionals have been collabs for years now. IMO 3 of the greatest watches ever made the Sub, GMT Master, Daytona

29 June 2019, 04:03 PM	#12
gleiden "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Taipei Posts: 146	Great question (beats all the usual stuff). I'd like to know as well. I'd also like to know who are the key engineers behind the movements. There have to be some central figures driving the teams behind and are the sources of innovation in their R&D departments, but I suspect this is something that might not easily be known.

29 June 2019, 04:12 PM	#14
SS Oyster 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: USA Posts: 9,218	I heard Al Gore is taking credit for the Submariner... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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