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Old 22 September 2019, 04:53 AM   #1
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Vintage Rolex. I need you to help me choose my watch.

I am not good at English.

So I write using a translator.

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First of all, there are three watches that I'm thinking about.

5513 gilt dial sub:$33400

1675 gilt dial pepsi: (non-glosy-gilt)$$34800(glosy)$37000

1016 tropical explorer $25000

First of all, 1675 is two things.
Both are gilt dails.
There's a gloss on the dial, and the other one's gone.
In the picture, I find the non-glossy object more attractive.
Will products that have been turned into lose a lot of value?
If it doesn't matter at all about value, is it OK to buy?
Or should I buy another watch in the picture?

What is the most reasonable and best option for the price?

Please advise me.
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Old 22 September 2019, 05:32 AM   #2
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Just based on looks, I prefer the first 1675. I'm a submariner guy, but that 1675 seems more special with the chapter ring dial and the nice faded bezel insert.

That said, I have no idea if the price is reasonable or not. I also can't confirm that everything on the watch is genuine (not suggesting it is non-genuine, I just don't know).
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Old 22 September 2019, 06:19 AM   #3
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Just based on looks, I prefer the first 1675. I'm a submariner guy, but that 1675 seems more special with the chapter ring dial and the nice faded bezel insert.

That said, I have no idea if the price is reasonable or not. I also can't confirm that everything on the watch is genuine (not suggesting it is non-genuine, I just don't know).
Thank you for your answer.
I like the first 1675 too.
But ,Doesn't it matter if the gloss of dial is lost?
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Old 22 September 2019, 06:28 AM   #4
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I prefer the 5513
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Old 22 September 2019, 06:33 AM   #5
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Old 22 September 2019, 07:55 AM   #6
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Which one excited you the most when you tried it on?
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Old 22 September 2019, 08:14 AM   #7
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Why would you depend on the subjective preferences of strangers? Get what sings to you! Get the one you want to wear. The one you want to be happy owning. I just don’t understand this need for outside insight on something so personal to you.

(I’d get the Sub, myself)
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Old 22 September 2019, 09:16 AM   #8
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Old 22 September 2019, 10:06 AM   #9
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Just based on looks, I prefer the first 1675. I'm a submariner guy, but that 1675 seems more special with the chapter ring dial and the nice faded bezel insert.

That said, I have no idea if the price is reasonable or not. I also can't confirm that everything on the watch is genuine (not suggesting it is non-genuine, I just don't know).
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I prefer the 5513
Is there a reason? Is it just because you prefer it personally? Or objectively because of the price and the value?
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Old 22 September 2019, 10:10 AM   #10
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The matte of the chaptering dial? Or the glossy dial?
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Old 22 September 2019, 10:15 AM   #11
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Which one excited you the most when you tried it on?
This is 1675 in the first picture. But as much as I've paid, I want to know if the variation in the dial is objectively of value to many people. The reason is because I'm worried if it'll be a problem in the Resell if I have to sell it later.
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Old 22 September 2019, 10:18 AM   #12
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Why would you depend on the subjective preferences of strangers? Get what sings to you! Get the one you want to wear. The one you want to be happy owning. I just don’t understand this need for outside insight on something so personal to you.

(I’d get the Sub, myself)
I need to study a little bit more from the start of a vintage watch, but I still have so much to know that I need your help on the value side.
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Old 22 September 2019, 10:20 AM   #13
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Is that the most valuable choice?
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Old 22 September 2019, 10:57 AM   #14
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I guess I shouldn't be surprised given the OP's username, but he seems to be overly focused on value. I think a better approach would be to decide which one he likes the most, and then determine the correct price for that watch.
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Old 22 September 2019, 11:14 AM   #15
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I guess I shouldn't be surprised given the OP's username, but he seems to be overly focused on value. I think a better approach would be to decide which one he likes the most, and then determine the correct price for that watch.
I'm just worried that I don't have much knowledge in this field.So if there's something you shouldn't buy, you need that advice. I am sorry that I can't express my English properly because I am not good at it.
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Old 22 September 2019, 11:16 AM   #16
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I guess I shouldn't be surprised given the OP's username, but he seems to be overly focused on value. I think a better approach would be to decide which one he likes the most, and then determine the correct price for that watch.
And I like the first 1675! May I pay his price?
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Old 22 September 2019, 09:20 PM   #17
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Old 22 September 2019, 10:11 PM   #18
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Is it a reasonable price? Then I'll buy it.
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Old 22 September 2019, 10:16 PM   #19
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Is it a reasonable price? Then I'll buy it.


I’m afraid I cannot advice you based on that one photo.
To allow the rest of the helpful experts here to comment too, you’ll need to post really good hi resolution photos here of the lumes close up, hands close up, clear shot of the dial and of cos the engravings and movements plus caseback as well. Shots of the clasps would be good too. Apart from that, value can be checked on HQ to get a rough idea but a lot really depends on the watch condition and if all the parts are period correct.
This above is just what I would do, if anyone else can advise, let’s share. Hope this helps.


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Old 22 September 2019, 10:18 PM   #20
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Old 22 September 2019, 10:21 PM   #21
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I’m afraid I cannot advice you based on that one photo.
To allow the rest of the helpful experts here to comment too, you’ll need to post really good hi resolution photos here of the lumes close up, hands close up, clear shot of the dial and of cos the engravings and movements plus caseback as well. Shots of the clasps would be good too. Apart from that, value can be checked on HQ to get a rough idea but a lot really depends on the watch condition and if all the parts are period correct.
This above is just what I would do, if anyone else can advise, let’s share. Hope this helps.


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Thank you very much. It's all original parts and they're saying that they fit the model year.
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Old 22 September 2019, 10:28 PM   #22
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I’m afraid I cannot advice you based on that one photo.
To allow the rest of the helpful experts here to comment too, you’ll need to post really good hi resolution photos here of the lumes close up, hands close up, clear shot of the dial and of cos the engravings and movements plus caseback as well. Shots of the clasps would be good too. Apart from that, value can be checked on HQ to get a rough idea but a lot really depends on the watch condition and if all the parts are period correct.
This above is just what I would do, if anyone else can advise, let’s share. Hope this helps.


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The seller of that watch told me that the dial polish had disappeared and that it could be split. If the dial luster was alive, it would be worth $80,000.
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Old 22 September 2019, 10:29 PM   #23
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I’m afraid I cannot advice you based on that one photo.
To allow the rest of the helpful experts here to comment too, you’ll need to post really good hi resolution photos here of the lumes close up, hands close up, clear shot of the dial and of cos the engravings and movements plus caseback as well. Shots of the clasps would be good too. Apart from that, value can be checked on HQ to get a rough idea but a lot really depends on the watch condition and if all the parts are period correct.
This above is just what I would do, if anyone else can advise, let’s share. Hope this helps.


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As a beginner, I don't know if that's true.
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Old 22 September 2019, 10:30 PM   #24
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The seller of that watch told me that the dial polish had disappeared and that it could be split. If the dial luster was alive, it would be worth $80,000.


I’m sorry but I really do not understand what does that mean.


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Old 22 September 2019, 10:32 PM   #25
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You should take your time to look for a trusted seller from who you can buy with confidence instead of just rushing out and splashing such a huge sum of money. You also need a return policy!
(I don’t know who this seller is nor am I saying he’s not trustworthy)


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Old 22 September 2019, 10:52 PM   #27
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I’m sorry but I really do not understand what does that mean.


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This is the gilt dial. But it doesn't shine like a mirror. It became matte over time. So it was worth asking if it was right to buy at the above price.
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Old 22 September 2019, 10:58 PM   #28
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This is the gilt dial. But it doesn't shine like a mirror. It became matte over time. So it was worth asking if it was right to buy at the above price.


If you’re referring to the first 1675, it’s all your preference if you like that look. Some will call that dial damaged. But you have to like it. This is a PCG case 1675 which can be very expensive if all is ok. But in this photo, the dial condition is not what I would go for.


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Old 22 September 2019, 11:09 PM   #29
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If you’re referring to the first 1675, it’s all your preference if you like that look. Some will call that dial damaged. But you have to like it. This is a PCG case 1675 which can be very expensive if all is ok. But in this photo, the dial condition is not what I would go for.


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Would it be better to buy the 5513 safely? I don't want to fail because it's the vintage that beginners experience
Thank you very much for your advice. My purchase decision until tomorrow.
I'm a little impatient.
Tomorrow I go back to my country,Because you can't buy a vintage watch.
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Old 22 September 2019, 11:38 PM   #30
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Have you handled a perfectly glossy gilt dial in hand? It is very hard to understand why the gloss is so important only by judging from pics.

If you prefer matte I would suggest buying later a matte dial. The gilt premium should go with the gloss of the dial imho.
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