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IR201 · 7 October 2019, 09:26 AM

I've debated the idea of trading in my SD4K ever since getting it. But I've also had moments where I really appreciated it and tell myself to never let it go. To me it is basically perfect (I do wish the lugs were more like 5 digit lugs than the sort of shorter/stubbier look). The thing is, if I were to only have 1 black diver, the SD4K would probably be it. But I don't only have one. I also have a 16600, 10460, 16610 and 114060. So I am always thinking about trading the SD4K for the SD43. I'm not sure I really have a question. I guess it is about the value of a "perfect" watch amidst a collection versus a "perfect" watch by itself. Does the perfect watch lose points so to speak when it is amongst a variety of other similar pieces?

whited3 · 7 October 2019, 09:41 AM

Always trade the sub before the SD

But why is the 116600 up for trade and not the others in your stable? Ultimately you're the one the watch needs to please. People have collections of multiple subs, and people have collections of multiple SDs. While each is quite different there's no right answer.

whited3 · 7 October 2019, 09:44 AM

Maybe trade away your cyclops since it's the odd one

zjd168 · 7 October 2019, 09:46 AM

Well, if it were me, at least 3, or all, of the following would let go first, before even considering the SD4k.

16600, 10460, 16610 and 114060

IR201 · 7 October 2019, 10:17 AM

Ahhh you guys are right. Honestly I'm still too confused about which direction I want to take all my black divers. Will sit on them for now and wait for clarity. Good talk!

Nikrnic · 7 October 2019, 10:18 AM

I'd keep the SD4K and the 14060 for sure

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Sublovin · 7 October 2019, 10:26 AM

Dump the subs first. Sea Dweller is the king of divers. It would be like getting rid of your Porsches and keeping just the VW's!

Soarer · 7 October 2019, 10:28 AM

I'll keep the SD4K, in my eyes that watch is not for sale or trade. Period. To me that is the perfect SD Rolex ever made!

10klakes · 7 October 2019, 10:31 AM

The 4k will only become harder to find with time. If you enjoy wearing it, my advice would be to never even consider offloading it. It’s a special piece-

abozz · 7 October 2019, 10:35 AM

I will buy a SD43 and increase even more your black Divers!!

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fskywalker · 7 October 2019, 10:38 AM

10460 and 114060 is where perhaps you should look first as you have there 2 of the same family

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harvey · 7 October 2019, 10:40 AM

SD4K did nothing for me, whereas the SD43 is perfect...

Rado63 · 7 October 2019, 10:41 AM

Sounds like you just don't pick the piece up and wear it as much as your other pieces. Then I would definitely let it go, maybe decide if it's time to let some other pieces go and get something new.

Dirt · 7 October 2019, 11:07 AM

As there's no specific question it's hard to answer objectively.
All I can say is that you lament the fact the watch doesn't have 5 digit lugs but you own a 6 digit Sub??????

If it were my choice, the 6 digit Sub would be gone in a heartbeat and I wouldn't bother with the SD43.
Keep the SD4K and enjoy it for what it is. It has slimmer and more stylish lugs than a 6 digit Sub and you have the SD thing well and truly covered.
You don't say how big your wrist is but if you are genuinely considering an SD43 then I would be inclined to consider a variant of the 116660.

Good luck

Dirt · 7 October 2019, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 10klakes

The 4k will only become harder to find with time. If you enjoy wearing it, my advice would be to never even consider offloading it. It’s a special piece-

Agreed

Little machines · 7 October 2019, 11:10 AM

SD43 is the perfect diver !!

envuks · 7 October 2019, 11:10 AM

I have a friend with a sd4k. It’s a nice piece. Also very short production run. Likely to do better value wise than most the others which means it would be hard to replace once gone

chriswang0130 · 7 October 2019, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sublovin

Dump the subs first. Sea Dweller is the king of divers. It would be like getting rid of your Porsches and keeping just the VW's!

I dont think SD is the KING of divers. What make you think that ?

inadeje · 7 October 2019, 11:28 AM

I fear that the 16600, 10460, 16610 and 114060 will get no wrist time once the size of the SD43 becomes familiar. It raises the bar against all five digits and, even the 6 digit sports watches.

Sublovin · 7 October 2019, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chriswang0130

I dont think SD is the KING of divers. What make you think that ?

Well....it is engineered to withstand greater depths than any other Rolex. When speaking of dive watches that is pretty important. Subs don’t even have a fully gradiated bezel or helium escape. What criteria would you use and what do you think is superior?

acfcheung · 8 October 2019, 02:50 AM

keep the SD4K. let the 114060 go

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Irydium · 8 October 2019, 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acfcheung

keep the SD4K. let the 114060 go

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THIS.

I would keep the SD4K, even as an owner of the 114060.

GarbanzoNegro · 8 October 2019, 04:35 AM

Another vote for keeping the SD4K and selling the 114060.

Pius XIII · 8 October 2019, 06:19 AM

Have had the 116600 twice and moved it on twice. The 114060 is still here however. I would keep whichever you prefer, not the one that you think is rarer or more valuable.

Devildog · 8 October 2019, 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IR201

I've debated the idea of trading in my SD4K ever since getting it. But I've also had moments where I really appreciated it and tell myself to never let it go. To me it is basically perfect (I do wish the lugs were more like 5 digit lugs than the sort of shorter/stubbier look). The thing is, if I were to only have 1 black diver, the SD4K would probably be it. But I don't only have one. I also have a 16600, 10460, 16610 and 114060. So I am always thinking about trading the SD4K for the SD43. I'm not sure I really have a question. I guess it is about the value of a "perfect" watch amidst a collection versus a "perfect" watch by itself. Does the perfect watch lose points so to speak when it is amongst a variety of other similar pieces?

Trade the ceramic sub.

You clearly like slimmer lugs and you’ll have a fantastic SD collection

wrxsti · 8 October 2019, 06:56 AM

move both subs you have for the sd43. I had all of your watches except the 16600 and now have the sd43 which is my fav out of all of them. Slim lugs and sits more flatter on the wrist than the Sd4k and of course the red Seadweller is killer!

eskiserkan · 8 October 2019, 08:54 AM

Another vote for keeping the SD4K and selling the 114060.

+1

IR201 · 8 October 2019, 09:12 AM

Honestly my collection has been through many permutations and I always found it pretty easy to identify what to part with/trade - but now I seem quite stuck, not being able to part with anything I have. I suppose that is a victory, the goal actually. But I also want more pieces!!! Figure I should just enjoy what I've got for awhile until I get more clarity. Part of me worries about 'missing out' on the SD 43, if prices keep going up or if the red gets discontinued etc. But maybe that is okay if it works out like that - can't have it all, right?? This would be a lot easier if I could walk into an AD and try stuff on whenever I want!

LuminousMaximus · 8 October 2019, 09:14 AM

I have sold the Sd4k twice and RE-bought it 3 times...

It’s a love-hate thing.

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whited3 · 8 October 2019, 09:57 AM

Or, flip your subs for the JC. I think it's a more fun collection with the sd4k than the sd43 is

7 October 2019, 09:26 AM	#1
IR201 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: New York Posts: 2,100	SD4K on the brink...again I've debated the idea of trading in my SD4K ever since getting it. But I've also had moments where I really appreciated it and tell myself to never let it go. To me it is basically perfect (I do wish the lugs were more like 5 digit lugs than the sort of shorter/stubbier look). The thing is, if I were to only have 1 black diver, the SD4K would probably be it. But I don't only have one. I also have a 16600, 10460, 16610 and 114060. So I am always thinking about trading the SD4K for the SD43. I'm not sure I really have a question. I guess it is about the value of a "perfect" watch amidst a collection versus a "perfect" watch by itself. Does the perfect watch lose points so to speak when it is amongst a variety of other similar pieces?

7 October 2019, 10:26 AM	#7
Sublovin 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: USA Watch: Lots Posts: 4,595	Dump the subs first. Sea Dweller is the king of divers. It would be like getting rid of your Porsches and keeping just the VW's! __________________ DSSD is the king of all Rolex

7 October 2019, 10:28 AM	#8
Soarer "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Real Name: Albert Location: Toronto Watch: Submariner LV Posts: 1,083	I'll keep the SD4K, in my eyes that watch is not for sale or trade. Period. To me that is the perfect SD Rolex ever made! __________________ What you gotta do, you gotta do!

7 October 2019, 10:38 AM	#11
fskywalker 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Real Name: Francisco Location: San Juan, PR Watch: Is Ticking ! Posts: 25,179	10460 and 114060 is where perhaps you should look first as you have there 2 of the same family Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro __________________ Francisco ♛ 16610 / 116264 Ω 168.022 / 2535.80.00 / 310.30.42.50.01.002 / 210.90.42.20.01.001 Zenith 02.480.405 2FA security enabled

7 October 2019, 10:41 AM	#13
Rado63 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Real Name: Alan Location: Northern, CA Watch: 116334 Posts: 2,215	Sounds like you just don't pick the piece up and wear it as much as your other pieces. Then I would definitely let it go, maybe decide if it's time to let some other pieces go and get something new. __________________ Rolex 116334 126600 228235

7 October 2019, 09:41 AM	#2
whited3 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: USA Watch: SD4K Posts: 390	Always trade the sub before the SD But why is the 116600 up for trade and not the others in your stable? Ultimately you're the one the watch needs to please. People have collections of multiple subs, and people have collections of multiple SDs. While each is quite different there's no right answer.

7 October 2019, 09:44 AM	#3
whited3 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: USA Watch: SD4K Posts: 390	Maybe trade away your cyclops since it's the odd one

7 October 2019, 09:46 AM	#4
zjd168 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: US Posts: 2,698	Well, if it were me, at least 3, or all, of the following would let go first, before even considering the SD4k. 16600, 10460, 16610 and 114060

7 October 2019, 10:17 AM	#5
IR201 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: New York Posts: 2,100	Ahhh you guys are right. Honestly I'm still too confused about which direction I want to take all my black divers. Will sit on them for now and wait for clarity. Good talk!

7 October 2019, 10:18 AM	#6
Nikrnic "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Real Name: Louis Nick Ric Location: Michigan, USA Watch: Blnr, Expll, Subs, Posts: 10,172	I'd keep the SD4K and the 14060 for sure Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk

7 October 2019, 10:31 AM	#9
10klakes "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: USA Watch: Collector Posts: 1,482	The 4k will only become harder to find with time. If you enjoy wearing it, my advice would be to never even consider offloading it. It’s a special piece-

7 October 2019, 10:35 AM	#10
abozz "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: In my home. Watch: 116660, 126600 Posts: 2,905	I will buy a SD43 and increase even more your black Divers!! Enviado desde mi SM-G975F mediante Tapatalk

7 October 2019, 10:40 AM	#12
harvey "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: rolexforums.com Posts: 5,435	SD4K did nothing for me, whereas the SD43 is perfect...

7 October 2019, 11:07 AM	#14
Dirt "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Brisbane Watch: DSSD Posts: 8,064	As there's no specific question it's hard to answer objectively. All I can say is that you lament the fact the watch doesn't have 5 digit lugs but you own a 6 digit Sub?????? If it were my choice, the 6 digit Sub would be gone in a heartbeat and I wouldn't bother with the SD43. Keep the SD4K and enjoy it for what it is. It has slimmer and more stylish lugs than a 6 digit Sub and you have the SD thing well and truly covered. You don't say how big your wrist is but if you are genuinely considering an SD43 then I would be inclined to consider a variant of the 116660. Good luck

7 October 2019, 11:10 AM	#16
Little machines "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Real Name: Joseph Location: USA Posts: 2,652	SD43 is the perfect diver !!

7 October 2019, 11:10 AM	#17
envuks 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: New England Posts: 3,741	I have a friend with a sd4k. It’s a nice piece. Also very short production run. Likely to do better value wise than most the others which means it would be hard to replace once gone __________________ Current watches: 116718ln, 116500 black dial, 40mm Breitling Chronomat MOP dial “A man with one watch always knows what time it is. A man with two watches is never sure.”

7 October 2019, 11:28 AM	#19
inadeje 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Miami Watch: me lose count. Posts: 5,906	I fear that the 16600, 10460, 16610 and 114060 will get no wrist time once the size of the SD43 becomes familiar. It raises the bar against all five digits and, even the 6 digit sports watches. __________________ ♛ 218206 Roman ♛ 116689 ♛ 126710BLRO ♛ 16520 white ♛ 16523 white ♛ 16610 ♛ 5513 Birth Year - ✠ Patek Philippe 5980/1R-001 - AP 26331ST Panda - Panerai Bronzo 671 & 111, Ω Speedmaster 1957 Broad Arrow, Cartier Santos XL - Montblanc TimeWalker Chrono 41

8 October 2019, 02:50 AM	#21
acfcheung "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Real Name: AC Location: Hong Kong Watch: SD4K for now Posts: 422	keep the SD4K. let the 114060 go Sent from my SM-N9750 using Tapatalk

8 October 2019, 04:35 AM	#23
GarbanzoNegro "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Europe Posts: 448	Another vote for keeping the SD4K and selling the 114060.

8 October 2019, 06:19 AM	#24
Pius XIII "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: The Sun Posts: 232	Have had the 116600 twice and moved it on twice. The 114060 is still here however. I would keep whichever you prefer, not the one that you think is rarer or more valuable.

8 October 2019, 06:56 AM	#26
wrxsti "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Earth Posts: 1,695	move both subs you have for the sd43. I had all of your watches except the 16600 and now have the sd43 which is my fav out of all of them. Slim lugs and sits more flatter on the wrist than the Sd4k and of course the red Seadweller is killer! __________________ PP Geneva

8 October 2019, 08:54 AM	#27
eskiserkan "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Bursa Watch: 116500LN Posts: 493	Another vote for keeping the SD4K and selling the 114060. +1

8 October 2019, 09:12 AM	#28
IR201 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: New York Posts: 2,100	Honestly my collection has been through many permutations and I always found it pretty easy to identify what to part with/trade - but now I seem quite stuck, not being able to part with anything I have. I suppose that is a victory, the goal actually. But I also want more pieces!!! Figure I should just enjoy what I've got for awhile until I get more clarity. Part of me worries about 'missing out' on the SD 43, if prices keep going up or if the red gets discontinued etc. But maybe that is okay if it works out like that - can't have it all, right?? This would be a lot easier if I could walk into an AD and try stuff on whenever I want!

8 October 2019, 09:14 AM	#29
LuminousMaximus 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: USA Watch: me hit Huge Lotto Posts: 6,512	I have sold the Sd4k twice and RE-bought it 3 times... It’s a love-hate thing. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ “Every man Dies... Not Every Man, Really Lives.” – William Wallace - To really lives means to live your life to the fullest. It means to chase your dreams, take risks, and to love life. Since everyone’s fate is the same, why not live the best life that you possibly can? In order to really live,you must seize the day. Live each day as if it's your last and overall just do it! Today is a gift, that’s why it’s called the present...

8 October 2019, 09:57 AM	#30
whited3 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: USA Watch: SD4K Posts: 390	Or, flip your subs for the JC. I think it's a more fun collection with the sd4k than the sd43 is

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