Meeting with Rolex AD

[boshingwash]

Hello - I am fairly new to the watch game and need some help on this scenario. The AD says they can try and source a submariner date for me but not sure if they'll have it in a couple days. But they did want to schedule an appointment with me to meet and show me other watches they have. I agreed to meet but I sort of made it clear that I am only interested in the Subdate anyways. They said that is fine we can meet and talk .. something like that.

Is that a good move on my end to meet and put a face to the name? I was assuming they want to know if I am a serious buyer (not flipping)and if I would be interested in other watches (IWC, Omega.. etc).

Any thoughts on this scenario? I don't plan to buy the other brands anyways.

[P1nky_Up]

Definitely go and meet in person. There is a chance they may actually have one and are just getting you to make sure it isn’t getting flipped immediately. Just be clear that is the only one you really want. Doesn’t hurt trying on some other watches in the mean time

[214270Explorer]

Originally Posted by P1nky_Up

Definitely go and meet in person. There is a chance they may actually have one and are just getting you to make sure it isn’t getting flipped immediately. Just be clear that is the only one you really want. Doesn’t hurt trying on some other watches in the mean time

Beat me to it almost word for word.

Originally Posted by shaunylw

I wear whatever I’m wearing. If i don’t dress up to go to work, i sure as hell will not be dressing up to spend thousands of dollars. You are highly over thinking this scenario.

THIS !!! For decades I have always worn jeans (clean, at least) and a pull-over T-shirt.

If my AD had cared about "dress" they never would have sold me 3 Rolex.

[healer]

Better than no chance of getting one.

[RJRJRJ]

Translation: They have a sub in the back and they want you to buy something else to get the sub. Maybe they see you are genuine and might spend more money with them in the future and they hook you up.

[Lesnerelli23]

Originally Posted by RJRJRJ

Translation: They have a sub in the back and they want you to buy something else to get the sub. Maybe they see you are genuine and might spend more money with them in the future and they hook you up.

I mostly agree with this. However, it does happen that if they believe you won't flip and may come back in the future for other purchases (any type). They may sell it to you right then.

This happened to me. I was very explicit that i'd only be buying the sub. They actually had a date and no date during the time i spoke with them. They were in the back as stated above "not in the showcase" as the AD put it.

GOOD LUCK and be ready to buy right then (and let the AD know you are) or it might get away!

[mistercoach32]

Originally Posted by RJRJRJ

Translation: They have a sub in the back and they want you to buy something else to get the sub. Maybe they see you are genuine and might spend more money with them in the future and they hook you up.

This. They have the watch. No doubt. They probably liked you, but likely not enough to invite you to come by to chat. That being said, they're going A) do their best to find out if you're serious and not going to flip it and, if you show up, they'll likely have their answer that you're serious and likely won't flip it, and/or B) they're going to require you to purchase something else to have then purchase the Sub.

I'm putting my dinero on B.

[StackLexus17]

Def go to the meeting.

Good chance to meet who you are buying from.
Also a good time to see some cool watches.

Don't see a downside here at all.

[schoolboy]

Originally Posted by StackLexus17

Def go to the meeting.

Good chance to meet who you are buying from.
Also a good time to see some cool watches.

Don't see a downside here at all.

Agree 100%

[boshingwash]

Thanks! I heard about this right to passage too.. thats really true I am assuming? They really want to see you if you are genuine enough I guess. Some part of me feels like they do want me to buy at least one piece before committing me to the sub-date...

[schoolboy]

Originally Posted by boshingwash

Thanks! I heard about this right to passage too.. thats really true I am assuming? They really want to see you if you are genuine enough I guess. Some part of me feels like they do want me to buy at least one piece before committing me to the sub-date...

Well decide before you walk in there if you’re going to buy another piece in order to get the sub date

End of story

My opinion:

Don’t buy another piece that you don’t want in order to get a sub date

[nworbled]

Here's a somewhat related question--when you guys and gals walk into the Rolex store do you dress up knowing that you're going into the store? Like do you dress up to make it known (or look like) that you are able and willing to spend a small fortune on a watch? Or do you just dress in the same casual manner that you would normally dress?

I used to hear about people dressing down to visit a car dealership cause they didn't want the car dealer to know they had the money to afford a higher payment and didn't want to get ripped off at the dealership. But I've also heard the opposite in that people will dress up nicer cause otherwise they feel sometimes a car dealership won't give them the time of day if they come in dressed like a bum.

[shaunylw]

Originally Posted by nworbled

Here's a somewhat related question--when you guys and gals walk into the Rolex store do you dress up knowing that you're going into the store? Like do you dress up to make it known (or look like) that you are able and willing to spend a small fortune on a watch? Or do you just dress in the same casual manner that you would normally dress?

I used to hear about people dressing down to visit a car dealership cause they didn't want the car dealer to know they had the money to afford a higher payment and didn't want to get ripped off at the dealership. But I've also heard the opposite in that people will dress up nicer cause otherwise they feel sometimes a car dealership won't give them the time of day if they come in dressed like a bum.

I wear whatever I’m wearing. If i don’t dress up to go to work, i sure as hell will not be dressing up to spend thousands of dollars. You are highly over thinking this scenario.


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[Bizcut1]

Originally Posted by shaunylw

I wear whatever I’m wearing. If i don’t dress up to go to work, i sure as hell will not be dressing up to spend thousands of dollars. You are highly over thinking this scenario.


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Completely disagree - but that's they way the world spins.

When it comes to controlling a room, including a sales scenario which this is, I like to make sure I am the best-dressed one there.

Ben

[garyk]

Originally Posted by Bizcut1

Completely disagree - but that's they way the world spins.

When it comes to controlling a room, including a sales scenario which this is, I like to make sure I am the best-dressed one there.

Ben

I agree! Besides, it doesn’t hurt to have a relationship with an AD and believe me, dressing nicely shows respect for them. Don’t have to go crazy but don’t roll out of bed and show up in PJs. I’ve actually seen that...

[mitc5502]

Originally Posted by garyk

dressing nicely shows respect for them. Don’t have to go crazy but don’t roll out of bed and show up in PJs. I’ve actually seen that...

Eh...It’s a guy selling a watch, not a job interview. What other retail transactions would you dress up for to show “respect” to the person at the checkout counter?

[Tom5518]

Originally Posted by boshingwash

Thanks! I heard about this right to passage too.. thats really true I am assuming? They really want to see you if you are genuine enough I guess. Some part of me feels like they do want me to buy at least one piece before committing me to the sub-date...

You said the key word: genuine. It's most important not to be fake or pretentious. AD's know the difference in the two types of customers. Guess who they like selling to better.....

Originally Posted by nworbled

Here's a somewhat related question--when you guys and gals walk into the Rolex store do you dress up knowing that you're going into the store? Like do you dress up to make it known (or look like) that you are able and willing to spend a small fortune on a watch? Or do you just dress in the same casual manner that you would normally dress?

I used to hear about people dressing down to visit a car dealership cause they didn't want the car dealer to know they had the money to afford a higher payment and didn't want to get ripped off at the dealership. But I've also heard the opposite in that people will dress up nicer cause otherwise they feel sometimes a car dealership won't give them the time of day if they come in dressed like a bum.

Earlier this year, I bought my first Rolex, a Yachtmaster, from an AD about a mile from my house that I had been to a few years ago, but had never bought from. I had spent the past couple of hours repairing my grill and was coming back from getting the tank refilled with propane. I was looking a little dingy with my $6 Walmart sweatpants and an old stained t-shirt and my old winter coat on. I don't really know why it struck me to stop in on this day of all days, perhaps because I knew they wouldn't have anything anyways. The first thing I said when I was greeted was "I'm just here to waste your time." Well, 20 minutes later, they were sizing my new Yachtmaster. It was a great experience and I am now great friends with everyone at the AD.

Originally Posted by 42itus

In my opinion what you’re wearing is not as important as how you come across. I’ve seen people walk in a AD acting like they have money to spend so some ass kissing is in order. Now I don’t know if that’s truly their demeanor but that’s how it came across to me.
What I do think does help in terms of apparel is wear a nice watch if you have one. If there is one way that a SA will know you’re serious is if you’re wearing a nice watch.

Quoted for truth. So true. If I may add, it doesn't have to even be a "nice" watch, but one that means something to you and has a story with it.

Originally Posted by Easy E

Go to the meeting. You have nothing but a few minutes to lose and a potential Sub to gain.

As far as dress, just be yourself. My AD is in another state and I just stopped in one day on a work trip, pretty sure I looked like $2. However, I genuinely engaged them showed a good deal of enthusiasm and a fair amount of knowledge (thanks TRF). The point is I showed them the real E. Good luck.

Again, the truth. Be yourself, tell them why you like the watch you are seeking and what it means to you.

Originally Posted by Bizcut1

Completely disagree - but that's they way the world spins.

When it comes to controlling a room, including a sales scenario which this is, I like to make sure I am the best-dressed one there.

Ben

The "whales" better take note of this, because they never dress up to go buy watches or jewelry.

[boshingwash]

Originally Posted by nworbled

Here's a somewhat related question--when you guys and gals walk into the Rolex store do you dress up knowing that you're going into the store? Like do you dress up to make it known (or look like) that you are able and willing to spend a small fortune on a watch? Or do you just dress in the same casual manner that you would normally dress?

I used to hear about people dressing down to visit a car dealership cause they didn't want the car dealer to know they had the money to afford a higher payment and didn't want to get ripped off at the dealership. But I've also heard the opposite in that people will dress up nicer cause otherwise they feel sometimes a car dealership won't give them the time of day if they come in dressed like a bum.

I would say dress nicely but not "work" style. Dress how you would go to a dinner with a date? Presentable but not soo formal where it says "I'm made of money". hahah

[42itus]

Originally Posted by nworbled

Here's a somewhat related question--when you guys and gals walk into the Rolex store do you dress up knowing that you're going into the store? Like do you dress up to make it known (or look like) that you are able and willing to spend a small fortune on a watch? Or do you just dress in the same casual manner that you would normally dress?

I used to hear about people dressing down to visit a car dealership cause they didn't want the car dealer to know they had the money to afford a higher payment and didn't want to get ripped off at the dealership. But I've also heard the opposite in that people will dress up nicer cause otherwise they feel sometimes a car dealership won't give them the time of day if they come in dressed like a bum.

In my opinion what you’re wearing is not as important as how you come across. I’ve seen people walk in a AD acting like they have money to spend so some ass kissing is in order. Now I don’t know if that’s truly their demeanor but that’s how it came across to me.
What I do think does help in terms of apparel is wear a nice watch if you have one. If there is one way that a SA will know you’re serious is if you’re wearing a nice watch.


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[P1nky_Up]

Originally Posted by nworbled

Here's a somewhat related question--when you guys and gals walk into the Rolex store do you dress up knowing that you're going into the store? Like do you dress up to make it known (or look like) that you are able and willing to spend a small fortune on a watch? Or do you just dress in the same casual manner that you would normally dress?

I used to hear about people dressing down to visit a car dealership cause they didn't want the car dealer to know they had the money to afford a higher payment and didn't want to get ripped off at the dealership. But I've also heard the opposite in that people will dress up nicer cause otherwise they feel sometimes a car dealership won't give them the time of day if they come in dressed like a bum.

I drove my Aston to a Ford dealer to look at a Raptor. Not a single soul came up to me even with me trying to walk up to sales people. I left came back in my Porsche to give it another go for shits and giggles. Same thing. Kind of crazy but I’ve bought 2 F150 platinums since then so their loss

[Jacentito]

Originally Posted by P1nky_Up

I drove my Aston to a Ford dealer to look at a Raptor. Not a single soul came up to me even with me trying to walk up to sales people. I left came back in my Porsche to give it another go for shits and giggles. Same thing. Kind of crazy but I’ve bought 2 F150 platinums since then so their loss

Of course if you'd have shown up in your Bell 206 JetRanger - they'd firstly be impressed then pissed because of all the dirt and rocks hitting their inventory. Oh well.

[P1nky_Up]

Originally Posted by Jacentito

Of course if you'd have shown up in your Bell 206 JetRanger - they'd firstly be impressed then pissed because of all the dirt and rocks hitting their inventory. Oh well.

If you have one feel free to fly to Virginia with it and we will try it out!

[frankfrazetta]

Originally Posted by nworbled

Here's a somewhat related question--when you guys and gals walk into the Rolex store do you dress up knowing that you're going into the store? Like do you dress up to make it known (or look like) that you are able and willing to spend a small fortune on a watch? Or do you just dress in the same casual manner that you would normally dress?

I used to hear about people dressing down to visit a car dealership cause they didn't want the car dealer to know they had the money to afford a higher payment and didn't want to get ripped off at the dealership. But I've also heard the opposite in that people will dress up nicer cause otherwise they feel sometimes a car dealership won't give them the time of day if they come in dressed like a bum.

I bought my sub a few years ago wearing a ripped up t shirt and old cargo pants.

[Dave_T26]

Originally Posted by nworbled

Here's a somewhat related question--when you guys and gals walk into the Rolex store do you dress up knowing that you're going into the store? Like do you dress up to make it known (or look like) that you are able and willing to spend a small fortune on a watch? Or do you just dress in the same casual manner that you would normally dress?

I wear whatever I'm wearing. Last AD I was in (NYC a few weeks ago) I wore jeans, Red Wing boots, and a button-down short sleeve shirt--- i.e. neat, but nothing fancy, but I also had on my DSSD (as far as I'm concerned, that's all that mattered).

[Littletommy]

Originally Posted by nworbled

Here's a somewhat related question--when you guys and gals walk into the Rolex store do you dress up knowing that you're going into the store? Like do you dress up to make it known (or look like) that you are able and willing to spend a small fortune on a watch? Or do you just dress in the same casual manner that you would normally dress?

I used to hear about people dressing down to visit a car dealership cause they didn't want the car dealer to know they had the money to afford a higher payment and didn't want to get ripped off at the dealership. But I've also heard the opposite in that people will dress up nicer cause otherwise they feel sometimes a car dealership won't give them the time of day if they come in dressed like a bum.

I dress to match what I'm seeking. For example if I'm looking for a BLNR......

[jvb.nc]

Originally Posted by nworbled

Here's a somewhat related question--when you guys and gals walk into the Rolex store do you dress up knowing that you're going into the store? Like do you dress up to make it known (or look like) that you are able and willing to spend a small fortune on a watch? Or do you just dress in the same casual manner that you would normally dress?

I used to hear about people dressing down to visit a car dealership cause they didn't want the car dealer to know they had the money to afford a higher payment and didn't want to get ripped off at the dealership. But I've also heard the opposite in that people will dress up nicer cause otherwise they feel sometimes a car dealership won't give them the time of day if they come in dressed like a bum.

honestly i tend to wear tee shirts and jeans into ADs. it lets me gauge how they treat people. it’s hysteircal when you’re wearing a ceramic daytona under a hoodie sleeve and the SAs ignore you snobbily, then you pull your sleeves up and they catch your wrist and suddenly they all want to help.

if people treat me like crap, i ain’t buying from them. cars, watches, snowboards, whatever.

[Rosex]

Originally Posted by jvb.nc

if people treat me like crap, i ain’t buying from them. cars, watches, snowboards, whatever.

I have been in sales nearly all my life and most salespeople react well to attitude not clothing. A great attitude will get you the best deal. When people come at me hard, agressive or rude I get turned off and would rather forgo my commission than deal with them.

[bay-dweller]

Originally Posted by Rosex

I have been in sales nearly all my life and most salespeople react well to attitude not clothing. A great attitude will get you the best deal. When people come at me hard, agressive or rude I get turned off and would rather forgo my commission than deal with them.

This.
100%

Think about how you choose your friends. You probably dont care how they dress, but you probably do care if they are genuine, respectful, interesting, and optimistic.

I have no data on this, but I bet the type of people who regularly get high demand references also get invited to dinner parties. If nobody invites you to their house, why would a salesperson want to have you as a customer?

In clients, you want quality and quantity. If the supply chain is preventing you from increasing quantity, then all you can do is focus on quality.

[joli160]

Originally Posted by Rosex

I have been in sales nearly all my life and most salespeople react well to attitude not clothing. A great attitude will get you the best deal. When people come at me hard, agressive or rude I get turned off and would rather forgo my commission than deal with them.

I am not in sales, only in buying. Totally understand and it works the other way around as well.
I walk if the vibe is wrong, regardless the deal

[winger14]

Originally Posted by nworbled

Here's a somewhat related question--when you guys and gals walk into the Rolex store do you dress up knowing that you're going into the store? Like do you dress up to make it known (or look like) that you are able and willing to spend a small fortune on a watch? Or do you just dress in the same casual manner that you would normally dress?

I used to hear about people dressing down to visit a car dealership cause they didn't want the car dealer to know they had the money to afford a higher payment and didn't want to get ripped off at the dealership. But I've also heard the opposite in that people will dress up nicer cause otherwise they feel sometimes a car dealership won't give them the time of day if they come in dressed like a bum.

I deliberately dress down if I plan on spending a decent amount of money somewhere. Good to see how they really treat you rather than how they treat your perceived wealth.