Tudor Black Bay Black - ETA or in-house movement?

[Bluside]

Just curious....Given the choice, which would you prefer if they were the same price and condition? ETA rose or the newer one with in-house movement?

The "rose" ones were only made for a short time. The newer ones have a longer power reserve.

[samson66]

I've had both and prefer the new in-house movement because it is the most accurate movement I have ever owned. Beats both my Rolexes. I also like that if I'm paying a premium for a Tudor watch, I like to have a Tudor movement inside. The longer power reserve is a big plus in my book. Put it in the safe Friday, grab it Monday, still ticking...

The argument for going with an ETA movement woudl be that the watch will be slightly less thick and the movement is easy to service by independant watch shops.

[Easy E]

Originally Posted by samson66

I've had both and prefer the new in-house movement because it is the most accurate movement I have ever owned. Beats both my Rolexes. I also like that if I'm paying a premium for a Tudor watch, I like to have a Tudor movement inside. The longer power reserve is a big plus in my book. Put it in the safe Friday, grab it Monday, still ticking...

The argument for going with an ETA movement woudl be that the watch will be slightly less thick and the movement is easy to service by independant watch shops.

I’ve had both as well. Whole heartedly agree with the accuracy statement. I kept the eta because I prefer how it wears.

[Mosswa]

Originally Posted by Bluside

Just curious....Given the choice, which would you prefer if they were the same price and condition? ETA rose or the newer one with in-house movement?

The "rose" ones were only made for a short time. The newer ones have a longer power reserve.

Personally I prefer the aesthetic of the dial on the ETA version. Wish I had the opportunity to get the black...would complete my black bay collection


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[MickCollins1916]

I have the BBN rose, which I like better for aesthetic reasons, plus the fact the case is thinner, and the ease of service, plus the BB GMT, which I also like, and it’s incredibly accurate, with increased functionality and a better power reserve.

If I was picking just based on the appearance of the dial, it’s rose over shield. If both of the BBs I currently own were the same price, I guess it’d be the GMT for functionality and power reserve reasons.

[SearChart]

I would normally say in-house, but sadly these movements are exchanged during 'service' and you'll receive a refurbished movement instead of your own getting serviced. That is a very hard pass for me.

[640alex]

ETA all the way.

It's has slightly thinner case and no rivets on the bracelet.

[Nikrnic]

I bought a new inhouse BB41 red as my first Tudor. It was a little thick and top heavy and I didn't care for the rivet bracelet. Not a fan of the forced yellow patina on the dial although it works with the red bezel color, anyway I sold it for a NIB blue eta version. This ones a keeper. I like the look and features much more, it's still substantial on the wrist but not as thick and doesn't have that top heavy feel.

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[kieselguhr]

My preference is for the ETA version in blue. I like the aesthetics of the dial as it is a lot more symmetrical than the in house version. I believe they are thinner but this aspect is negligible to me. I prefer the high grade ETA movement as they are a reputable workhorse and “in house” movements across all brands these days are more of a marketing gimmick as they are all based on existing Selita/ ETA/ Valjoux movements with a shiny brand stamp anyway. The aesthetics of the bracelet that comes with the ETA version are also simple and preferable to me but a rivet style is not a deal breaker as they are essentially the same thing.

[Ballzzz]

Originally Posted by SearChart

I would normally say in-house, but sadly these movements are exchanged during 'service' and you'll receive a refurbished movement instead of your own getting serviced. That is a very hard pass for me.

Bas - I knew this was the case, but why? Is the movement built to a spec that's lesser or just for ease of service they swap with refurbed and keep the cycle going?

Whereas the ETA actually gets serviced? My ETA was in the Houston RSC a few months back hopefully they didn't swap my movement.

[brucethemanlee]

Originally Posted by SearChart

I would normally say in-house, but sadly these movements are exchanged during 'service' and you'll receive a refurbished movement instead of your own getting serviced. That is a very hard pass for me.

seriously? Tudor doesn't service their in-house movements but gives you a refurbished one?

[Chewbacca]

I'd say ETA but not at a huge premium.

Its preferred but it's not Kobe beef.

[mgsooner]

Originally Posted by SearChart

I would normally say in-house, but sadly these movements are exchanged during 'service' and you'll receive a refurbished movement instead of your own getting serviced. That is a very hard pass for me.

This is currently pushing me away from Tudor and toward Omega tbh

[SearChart]

Originally Posted by Ballzzz

Bas - I knew this was the case, but why? Is the movement built to a spec that's lesser or just for ease of service they swap with refurbed and keep the cycle going?

Whereas the ETA actually gets serviced? My ETA was in the Houston RSC a few months back hopefully they didn't swap my movement.

I don't know why for sure, but I suppose it is cost efficiency.
Yes, ETA gets serviced.

Originally Posted by brucethemanlee

seriously? Tudor doesn't service their in-house movements but gives you a refurbished one?

Correct.

[Ballzzz]

Originally Posted by SearChart

I don't know why for sure, but I suppose it is cost efficiency.
Yes, ETA gets serviced.



Correct.

Ty - Whats your feeling on the iteration of ETA the BBN runs vs the in house excluding the servicing aspect?

[SearChart]

Originally Posted by Ballzzz

Ty - Whats your feeling on the iteration of ETA the BBN runs vs the in house excluding the servicing aspect?

The ETA is obviously a well tested movement that any watchmaker can repair, the in-house looks good and haven't heard of any real issues yet, time will tell.

[faaaaaaaasterrrrr]

Originally Posted by SearChart

I would normally say in-house, but sadly these movements are exchanged during 'service' and you'll receive a refurbished movement instead of your own getting serviced. That is a very hard pass for me.

Is this across the board on all Tudor in-house movements? Really interesting.

[getting started]

Originally Posted by SearChart

I would normally say in-house, but sadly these movements are exchanged during 'service' and you'll receive a refurbished movement instead of your own getting serviced. That is a very hard pass for me.

Wow.. this is sad.. I purchased the BB for it’s in house movement...

[DPE]

can you specify that you are happy to wait to have the original movement you owned serviced. Not a Service Exchange movement ?

[Ballzzz]

Originally Posted by SearChart

The ETA is obviously a well tested movement that any watchmaker can repair, the in-house looks good and haven't heard of any real issues yet, time will tell.

Is there a certain set of techs that have a specified job to just refurbish these movements? I'm guessing you have never tore one down and rebuilt it or went too an educational class on its technical attributes since you wont be servicing it?

[SearChart]

Originally Posted by Ballzzz

Is there a certain set of techs that have a specified job to just refurbish these movements? I'm guessing you have never tore one down and rebuilt it or went too an educational class on its technical attributes since you wont be servicing it?

Possibly trained technicians in Geneva. Theres no tools or training available for the movement and since we can't get any parts either I'm not attempting anything other than regulating.

[SearChart]

Originally Posted by DPE

can you specify that you are happy to wait to have the original movement you owned serviced. Not a Service Exchange movement ?

No. That is not possible.

[SearChart]

Originally Posted by faaaaaaaasterrrrr

Is this across the board on all Tudor in-house movements? Really interesting.

The base movement is the same anyway in the North flag, BB and BB GMT. So yes, all Tudor in-house movements will get a movement exchange during service time.

[faaaaaaaasterrrrr]

Thanks Bas!

[Ballzzz]

Originally Posted by SearChart

Possibly trained technicians in Geneva. Theres no tools or training available for the movement and since we can't get any parts either I'm not attempting anything other than regulating.

Understood, thank you for all the info as always.

[Joergen]

ETA of course

[SydR]

Originally Posted by SearChart

I would normally say in-house, but sadly these movements are exchanged during 'service' and you'll receive a refurbished movement instead of your own getting serviced. That is a very hard pass for me.

That’s making me serious rethink plans for a Black Bay S&G!

[Danny83]

I think Eta

[Fire bloke]

ETA Everyday

[Likestheshiny]

ETA for me. Thinner case, no rivets, less expensive to service.