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Welshwatchman · 16 March 2009, 10:25 AM

Occasionally we rid ourselves of unused bits and bobs, old mobile phones, MP3 players, broken games machines etc and use Ebay as a venue to advertise these articles.

I split the last lot of "crud" over two separate periods to split my packing/postage efforts into two manageable parts.

This week's total haul was £340 for 5 items (people pay silly money for broken laptops/DS etc).

Total Ebay fees - £11.65 or an average of just under 3.5%. They previously worked on a sliding scale charge.

Next week's haul will likely yield the same sort of amount yet the Ebay fees will be £34.00.

A 10% flat fee has just kicked in, under the radar and hidden behind by the bullcrap "free 99p" listing nonsense.

This represents a massive 200% price increase on fees.

The fees are capped at £40 so if you sell a £5,000 watch you are actually quids in but when you consider the average item value on Ebay is less than £100 then Ebay are in the money, big time.

If you get paid by paypal the overall Ebay charges rise to 13.4%

swissautopro · 16 March 2009, 10:27 AM

Now that is painful, and cuts deep into any profit you might make if you are a reseller.

ijen0311 · 16 March 2009, 10:54 AM

I'm pissed with them.

I just put my Wii Fit up for sale - which is techincally a video game but has a large and heavy balance board as part of it.

Well, their "maximum shipping" on my item was $4.00. Are you kidding me?!?! So, not only do I have to pay them and their paypal fees, but now I LOSE money on the shipping as well.

Lisa · 16 March 2009, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ijen0311

I'm pissed with them.

I just put my Wii Fit up for sale - which is techincally a video game but has a large and heavy balance board as part of it.

Well, their "maximum shipping" on my item was $4.00. Are you kidding me?!?! So, not only do I have to pay them and their paypal fees, but now I LOSE money on the shipping as well.

I've tried this a time or two, Jen - increase your starting price a little to offset the shipping, and then offer the buyer Free Shipping. That might entice them to pay a little more for the item - the smarter buyers, anyway.

redshirt1957 · 16 March 2009, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lisa

I've tried this a time or two, Jen - increase your starting price a little to offset the shipping, and then offer the buyer Free Shipping. That might entice them to pay a little more for the item - the smarter buyers, anyway.

All my ex-wives offered free shipping and I am still paying.

Mike B · 16 March 2009, 11:14 AM

Yes, I gave up trying to sell items on E-bay several months back. I've been an E-bay buyer/seller since 1999, and I ALWAYS pay/get payed with money orders only. I've NEVER got burned (knock on wood). Then, all of sudden, E-bay will NOT accept MO's as a form of payment. You HAVE to have a PayPal account in order to sell anything. I've gone threw the whole PayPal thing, HAVE gotten burned, and to top that off, have to pay an additional 3%. Now, maybe I'm being too old school and should just give PP a second chance, but it seems to be that a lot of sellers (that I've known for a while through E-bay) have gotten fed-up as well.
What do you all think ? Am I being too anal about this no money order, PayPal only thing? Not to mention, as the OP stated, thier ever-so-increasing auction fees. I mean, it's gotten so bad that E-bay will not even put your auction up if you have the words "money order" anywhere in your listing description.
Oh well :(

Bisquitlips · 16 March 2009, 12:17 PM

Pathetic!!!!

Mosco · 16 March 2009, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ijen0311

I'm pissed with them.

I just put my Wii Fit up for sale - which is techincally a video game but has a large and heavy balance board as part of it.

Well, their "maximum shipping" on my item was $4.00. Are you kidding me?!?! So, not only do I have to pay them and their paypal fees, but now I LOSE money on the shipping as well.

Jen, LOVE the new avatar! Meeeeeaaaaooow!

Screw ebay, I will buy your Fit - have wanted one for a while!

Is the price increase worldwide, or UK?

sea-dweller · 16 March 2009, 01:28 PM

Yes, I've noticed this also ! No money orders accepted for payment. We should boycott eBay ! They seem to have forgotten who put them into business !

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike B

Yes, I gave up trying to sell items on E-bay several months back. I've been an E-bay buyer/seller since 1999, and I ALWAYS pay/get payed with money orders only. I've NEVER got burned (knock on wood). Then, all of sudden, E-bay will NOT accept MO's as a form of payment. You HAVE to have a PayPal account in order to sell anything. I've gone threw the whole PayPal thing, HAVE gotten burned, and to top that off, have to pay an additional 3%. Now, maybe I'm being too old school and should just give PP a second chance, but it seems to be that a lot of sellers (that I've known for a while through E-bay) have gotten fed-up as well.
What do you all think ? Am I being too anal about this no money order, PayPal only thing? Not to mention, as the OP stated, thier ever-so-increasing auction fees. I mean, it's gotten so bad that E-bay will not even put your auction up if you have the words "money order" anywhere in your listing description.
Oh well :(

astcell · 16 March 2009, 01:55 PM

Ebay is going to hurt themselves, thy only THINK people have no where else to go. There are many other auction sites and you can always make deals behind the scenes.

Yea, Jen's a cutie!

Mort · 16 March 2009, 11:25 PM

I pretty much think as a seller Ebay sucks. We occasionally list pens for sale on ebay and it used to be pretty good. The thing I do not like about ebay now is they only look out for the buyer, not the seller.

As of new rules, a buyer can burn you with a negitave feedback, but if a seller gets screwed buy the buyer, you are no longer allowed to leave a negitave comment for them.

It is no longer a fair playing field.

vapalux · 17 March 2009, 07:54 AM

It used to be good but now people have worked out how to use it and work the system to get more for their items its pretty poor.

On top of that as Paul was saying the amount they are taking people for, and under the radar is a disgrace. I have also noticed more and more people are refusing to accept payment by paypal.

I wouldn't say it has run its course but I know a few people who refuse to use it now and they were big style ebay fans. Being careful is something they need to look or else they may be in for a nasty shock.

Si

ijen0311 · 21 March 2009, 01:08 PM

I'm super PO'd at eBay. I ended up selling my Wii Fit for $66 (which is cheap!)

Anywho, for that category max shipping was $4.

It cost me $23 to ship today! So... I made around $45 on my Wii Fit that was used once.

<me

Ashley · 21 March 2009, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ijen0311

I'm super PO'd at eBay. I ended up selling my Wii Fit for $66 (which is cheap!)

Anywho, for that category max shipping was $4.

It cost me $23 to ship today! So... I made around $45 on my Wii Fit that was used once.

<me

Damn! Those are going for $100 here at Walmart!

Mike B · 21 March 2009, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ijen0311

I'm super PO'd at eBay. I ended up selling my Wii Fit for $66 (which is cheap!)

Anywho, for that category max shipping was $4.

It cost me $23 to ship today! So... I made around $45 on my Wii Fit that was used once.

<me

WOW ! That's horrible ! Well, join the club, after almost 10 years on E-bay, I've about had it with them as well. Too many new (unbeliveable) rules, costs, etc. etc.

GBJIV · 21 March 2009, 05:09 PM

I did not realize it was so expensive.

tudorman8276 · 21 March 2009, 05:26 PM

...the eBay fee increase is really over the top.

...it is causing many sellers, as stated above, to rethink everything and even be turned away from selling there.

Stan.

16 March 2009, 10:25 AM	#1
Welshwatchman "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Paul Location: Wales, UK Posts: 14,578	Ebay Fees - Huge increase Occasionally we rid ourselves of unused bits and bobs, old mobile phones, MP3 players, broken games machines etc and use Ebay as a venue to advertise these articles. I split the last lot of "crud" over two separate periods to split my packing/postage efforts into two manageable parts. This week's total haul was £340 for 5 items (people pay silly money for broken laptops/DS etc). Total Ebay fees - £11.65 or an average of just under 3.5%. They previously worked on a sliding scale charge. Next week's haul will likely yield the same sort of amount yet the Ebay fees will be £34.00. A 10% flat fee has just kicked in, under the radar and hidden behind by the bullcrap "free 99p" listing nonsense. This represents a massive 200% price increase on fees. The fees are capped at £40 so if you sell a £5,000 watch you are actually quids in but when you consider the average item value on Ebay is less than £100 then Ebay are in the money, big time. If you get paid by paypal the overall Ebay charges rise to 13.4% __________________ ..33

16 March 2009, 10:27 AM	#2
swissautopro "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Mike Location: South Carolina Watch: 3.3M 1655 Mk I Posts: 2,384	Now that is painful, and cuts deep into any profit you might make if you are a reseller. __________________ "A little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to rest, and poverty will come upon you like a bandit, and scarcity like an armed man." Proverbs 24 "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than open your mouth and remove all doubt." Unknown "Better to be a nobody and yet have a servant than pretend to be somebody and have no food." Proverbs 12

16 March 2009, 12:17 PM	#7
Bisquitlips 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Richard Location: USA Watch: YM Deep Space Posts: 12,521	Pathetic!!!! __________________ Rolex Yacht-Master 40mm (SS-YG / Deep Space MOP) 16623 Breitling Aerospace Titanium / 18K with UTC. Omega Speedmaster 3510.50 Oris TT1 Pro Diver Regulator 43MM

16 March 2009, 01:55 PM	#10
astcell "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Robert Location: Angelus Oaks, CA Watch: 116713 Posts: 6,828	Ebay is going to hurt themselves, thy only THINK people have no where else to go. There are many other auction sites and you can always make deals behind the scenes. Yea, Jen's a cutie! __________________ SS GMTII "D", TT GMTIIc "Z"

16 March 2009, 11:25 PM	#11
Mort "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 1,001	I pretty much think as a seller Ebay sucks. We occasionally list pens for sale on ebay and it used to be pretty good. The thing I do not like about ebay now is they only look out for the buyer, not the seller. As of new rules, a buyer can burn you with a negitave feedback, but if a seller gets screwed buy the buyer, you are no longer allowed to leave a negitave comment for them. It is no longer a fair playing field. __________________ Collection Stainless DJ II Rhodium with Arabic Dial 116334, Longines RG Master Collection Chronograph Triple Date Moon, Maurice Lacroix TT Masterpiece Triple Date Moon, Vintage Gallet SS Flying Officer Chronograph

16 March 2009, 10:54 AM	#3
ijen0311 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Jen Location: Jax, FL Watch: Sea-Dweller Posts: 3,977	I'm pissed with them. I just put my Wii Fit up for sale - which is techincally a video game but has a large and heavy balance board as part of it. Well, their "maximum shipping" on my item was $4.00. Are you kidding me?!?! So, not only do I have to pay them and their paypal fees, but now I LOSE money on the shipping as well.

16 March 2009, 11:14 AM	#6
Mike B "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: Mike Location: Gilbert, AZ Watch: DSSD, Omega SMP Posts: 3,055	Yes, I gave up trying to sell items on E-bay several months back. I've been an E-bay buyer/seller since 1999, and I ALWAYS pay/get payed with money orders only. I've NEVER got burned (knock on wood). Then, all of sudden, E-bay will NOT accept MO's as a form of payment. You HAVE to have a PayPal account in order to sell anything. I've gone threw the whole PayPal thing, HAVE gotten burned, and to top that off, have to pay an additional 3%. Now, maybe I'm being too old school and should just give PP a second chance, but it seems to be that a lot of sellers (that I've known for a while through E-bay) have gotten fed-up as well. What do you all think ? Am I being too anal about this no money order, PayPal only thing? Not to mention, as the OP stated, thier ever-so-increasing auction fees. I mean, it's gotten so bad that E-bay will not even put your auction up if you have the words "money order" anywhere in your listing description. Oh well :(

17 March 2009, 07:54 AM	#12
vapalux "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: Si Location: united kingdom Posts: 1,655	It used to be good but now people have worked out how to use it and work the system to get more for their items its pretty poor. On top of that as Paul was saying the amount they are taking people for, and under the radar is a disgrace. I have also noticed more and more people are refusing to accept payment by paypal. I wouldn't say it has run its course but I know a few people who refuse to use it now and they were big style ebay fans. Being careful is something they need to look or else they may be in for a nasty shock. Si __________________

21 March 2009, 01:08 PM	#13
ijen0311 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Jen Location: Jax, FL Watch: Sea-Dweller Posts: 3,977	I'm super PO'd at eBay. I ended up selling my Wii Fit for $66 (which is cheap!) Anywho, for that category max shipping was $4. It cost me $23 to ship today! So... I made around $45 on my Wii Fit that was used once. <me

21 March 2009, 05:09 PM	#16
GBJIV "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: Jackson Location: So. California Posts: 2,893	I did not realize it was so expensive. __________________ Jackson

21 March 2009, 05:26 PM	#17
tudorman8276 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: STAN Location: KY-USA Watch: Rolex Prez Posts: 12,583	...as Paul, one of our mod's has said... ...the eBay fee increase is really over the top. ...it is causing many sellers, as stated above, to rethink everything and even be turned away from selling there. Stan.

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