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Randy · 21 March 2009, 07:33 AM

Spoke to a legit source yesterday who stated Rolex would not be unveiling the new TT blue sub with ceramic bezel at Basel. Suspending unveiling of TT sub due to economy and slow sales of white gold sub. Time will tell.

scottschoe · 21 March 2009, 07:35 AM

Guess we'll find out next week...

The Second · 21 March 2009, 07:40 AM

well then i hope they release a SS Ceramic Sub because that would be great too!

Nakow · 21 March 2009, 08:04 AM

Just to let you guys know that there won't be any SS Sub on ceramic this year ,they may launch it in 2010 ! I got it from an authentic source .
Regards

The GMT Master · 21 March 2009, 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randy

Spoke to a legit source yesterday who stated Rolex would not be unveiling the new TT blue sub with ceramic bezel at Basel. Suspending unveiling of TT sub due to economy and slow sales of white gold sub. Time will tell.

Hmm, interesting news. We'll find out in 6 days, anyway.

Lowflight · 21 March 2009, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by The Second

well then i hope they release a SS Ceramic Sub because that would be great too!

I agree. If they want to ignite their business....change their usual BS pattern and release it. Not like it would be hard to build and produce

STEELINOX · 21 March 2009, 09:47 AM

Better leave the speculation to "us" professionals !
Thanks,
Randy

STEELINOX · 21 March 2009, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nakow

Just to let you guys know that there won't be any SS Sub on ceramic this year ,they may launch it in 2010 ! I got it from an authentic source .
Regards

as an authentic source !

moby33 · 21 March 2009, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randy

Spoke to a legit source yesterday who stated Rolex would not be unveiling the new TT blue sub with ceramic bezel at Basel. Suspending unveiling of TT sub due to economy and slow sales of white gold sub. Time will tell.

No kidding Rolex...you're having a tough time moving WG $20K+ Subs in these economic times?!?! Here's a thought...release the SS version and you might actually see the slow sales start to go away!

hflee55 · 21 March 2009, 10:54 AM

we'll know soon enough

rescue7 · 21 March 2009, 11:06 AM

I vote we authenticate the legitimate source to see the amount of professionalism he/she demonstrates in presenting a Baselfair rumour and seeing it come into fruition during these tough economic times.

Wow, and I'm betting Rolex S.A will introduce something at Baselfair 2009,

Why go there empty handed, come on folks Rolex holds the cards close to there chest, you can believe what and who you want, we will see in a weeks time.

Rolexshirts · 21 March 2009, 11:46 AM

Does it come next week ?

STEELINOX · 21 March 2009, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rescue7

I vote we authenticate the legitimate source to see the amount of professionalism he/she demonstrates in presenting a Baselfair rumour and seeing it come into fruition during these tough economic times.

Wow, and I'm betting Rolex S.A will introduce something at Baselfair 2009,

Why go there empty handed, come on folks Rolex holds the cards close to there chest, you can believe what and who you want, we will see in a weeks time.

the OP statements as false and banish him from this forum forever. You (OP) must therefore present your source by release of their name for our own scrutiny.

Randy · 22 March 2009, 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moby33

No kidding Rolex...you're having a tough time moving WG $20K+ Subs in these economic times?!?! Here's a thought...release the SS version and you might actually see the slow sales start to go away!

I agree X2!!

The GMT Master · 22 March 2009, 06:29 AM

Come on fellers, it's not as if the 16610 is selling badly. Introducing a new SS Sub will have no impact on sales at all for this year.

Lion · 22 March 2009, 07:55 AM

Why should anyone bother with rumors/authentic statements when no one knows for sure until Basel!!!

Spare201 · 22 March 2009, 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STEELINOX

the OP statements as false and banish him from this forum forever. You (OP) must therefore present your source by release of their name for our own scrutiny.

Well I actually work for an AD, in sales and in service. Our Sales Rep Jeff Cotton (south eastern regional Rep) said that they have no immediate plans to release a "new" sub in stainless or S/G.

Reason being? They want to sell and promote the new GMT master. If you want a new sub buy the Steel GMTIIc look at it closely it already has a triplock crown on it, the only thing they are going to change is the finish of the case/bracelet and the the bezel. They will more than likely use up the existing stock of cases (for the current model) they have already machined. I'm already seeing V serial numbers engraved on the reflector rings of current styled ones. That baby is waaay off on the horizon.

Besides it's not like they can keep up demand wise with the GMTIIc in steel, it's like what a six month plus backorder? I keep saying it Rolex is seriously cutting back on their sport watches production wise. They want them to be scarce and appreciated.

vapalux · 22 March 2009, 08:17 AM

Besides it's not like they can keep up demand wise with hte GMTIIc in steel, it's like what a six month plus backorder? I keep saying it Rolex is seriously cutting back on their sport watches production wise. They want them to be scarce and appreciated.

I could take my pick from an AD of a GMT IIc or one in TT. The more scarce they make them, the more money they cost, less people in the market place, less sales. Oh dear. It mat be a mistake they say!

As for paying over the odds they can forget it for. I'll collect something else

Si

barstoolman · 22 March 2009, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spare201

Besides it's not like they can keep up demand wise with the GMTIIc in steel, it's like what a six month plus backorder? I keep saying it Rolex is seriously cutting back on their sport watches production wise. They want them to be scarce and appreciated.

What are you talking about...........that has to be the silliest statement I have heard on this forum

.........six month back order

...are you kidding me???? Walk into any AD in Southern California and pluck one right out of the case with a sizable discount. Man, whatever you're drinking, you need to slow down

tthopp05 · 22 March 2009, 11:31 AM

The only thing I know for sure is

thecoinopcollector · 22 March 2009, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moby33

No kidding Rolex...you're having a tough time moving WG $20K+ Subs in these economic times?!?! Here's a thought...release the SS version and you might actually see the slow sales start to go away!

X2 here as well, agree completely.

ijen0311 · 22 March 2009, 11:35 AM

my AD has a GMT II-c in the case

moby33 · 22 March 2009, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ijen0311

my AD has a GMT II-c in the case

You mean one of those 'rare' 6-month back-ordered GMT's?

ijen0311 · 22 March 2009, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moby33

You mean one of those 'rare' 6-month back-ordered GMT's?

That's the one

It's sitting right next to the equally rare DSSD.

STEELINOX · 22 March 2009, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barstoolman

What are you talking about...........that has to be the silliest statement I have heard on this forum

.........six month back order

...are you kidding me???? Walk into any AD in Southern California and pluck one right out of the case with a sizable discount. Man, whatever you're drinking, you need to slow down

beat his "silly" statement with one of my own by saying,

"ROLEX will shift exports to the USA by fifteen percent and divert those inventories to the Far East and CHINA who are experiencing a 2 percent growth in GDP; also a price increase of 9 percent will be levied on the US market in two installments."

Hey, not bad right, hellyah, i can strike out some meaningless drivel with the best of em !
Thanks,
Randy

nylawbiz · 22 March 2009, 01:32 PM

FWIW, my AD told me today (in a very authorative manner) that at Basel Rolex is going to introduce the upgraded Sub, with a ceramic bezel and an upgraded bracelet. Who knows?

I want to know if there is going to be a daytona date!

rescue7 · 22 March 2009, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spare201

Well I actually work for an AD, in sales and in service. Our Sales Rep Jeff Cotton (south eastern regional Rep) said that they have no immediate plans to release a "new" sub in stainless or S/G.

Reason being? They want to sell and promote the new GMT master. If you want a new sub buy the Steel GMTIIc look at it closely it already has a triplock crown on it, the only thing they are going to change is the finish of the case/bracelet and the the bezel. They will more than likely use up the existing stock of cases (for the current model) they have already machined. I'm already seeing V serial numbers engraved on the reflector rings of current styled ones. That baby is waaay off on the horizon.

Besides it's not like they can keep up demand wise with the GMTIIc in steel, it's like what a six month plus backorder? I keep saying it Rolex is seriously cutting back on their sport watches production wise. They want them to be scarce and appreciated.

Just to refresh your memory, Rolex S.A. released the Solid gold Sub in both white and yellow gold at Baselworld 2008, but hey you knew that, your were just seeing if we were paying attention.

If history repeats itself then Rolex should release the TT Sub(116613), kinda like the way the GMT IIc was, first in solid gold, then TT then S/S.

Besides the Ad that I frequent has a S/S GMT IIc, a TT GMT IIc and a Milgauss 116400GV, all available for immediate purchase, kinda bypassing that dreadful waiting list.

The only noticeable difference between the GMT IIc and Sub in cerachrome will be the PCL(GMT), multi time zone capability(GMT), glidelock clasp(Sub)and the numbers on the bezel insert.
Oh and the depth rating is a bit higher or is lower

, whatever.

hwilsdorf · 22 March 2009, 10:04 PM

Hard to find? At least this AD is transparent.

P.S. picture was taken on New Year's eve so the AD was closed (they removed some of the watches on display).

BigHat · 22 March 2009, 10:12 PM

Well, we all have our own opinions regarding the accuracy of pre-show predictions and so called authentic sources.

For me, the thing I'm most waiting to see isn't a specific watch, but just how this year in general compares to years past and if the economy (watch demand) really appears to have altered their strategy.

Art 1 · 22 March 2009, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Lion

Why should anyone bother with rumors/authentic statements when no one knows for sure until Basel!!!

I've wondered the same for years. Now we have rumors of what Rolex is not going to do when only they know what they are going to do.

21 March 2009, 07:33 AM	#1
Randy "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Randy Location: Ohio Watch: AP, Rolex, Panerai Posts: 1,241	Basel rumor Spoke to a legit source yesterday who stated Rolex would not be unveiling the new TT blue sub with ceramic bezel at Basel. Suspending unveiling of TT sub due to economy and slow sales of white gold sub. Time will tell.

21 March 2009, 07:35 AM	#2
scottschoe "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: CA Posts: 3,295	Guess we'll find out next week... __________________ __________________

21 March 2009, 08:04 AM	#4
Nakow "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Canada Watch: 16622 Posts: 536	Just to let you guys know that there won't be any SS Sub on ceramic this year ,they may launch it in 2010 ! I got it from an authentic source . Regards __________________ 16622

21 March 2009, 09:47 AM	#7
STEELINOX 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Sink-O! Location: a praire in AZ Watch: ROLEX-less atm... Posts: 14,021	Boo Wa Ha Ha Ha ha ! Better leave the speculation to "us" professionals ! Thanks, Randy

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Lion "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Leo Location: Midwest Watch: GMT-II 16710 PEPSI Posts: 21,461	Why should anyone bother with rumors/authentic statements when no one knows for sure until Basel!!! __________________ SS GMT-II 16710 PEPSI(Z-serial#) THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MEN AND BOYS IS THE PRICE OF THE TOYS!!! MontBlanc Meisterstuck Doue Silver Barley MontBlanc Meisterstuck Solitaire Doue Signum Proud Card Carrying Member of the Curmudgeons.....Yikes!!!

21 March 2009, 07:40 AM	#3
The Second Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Lost Watch: Watchless(for now) Posts: 267	well then i hope they release a SS Ceramic Sub because that would be great too!

21 March 2009, 10:54 AM	#10
hflee55 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Andy Location: Kuala Lumpur, MY Watch: Me Watching You!! Posts: 3,260	we'll know soon enough

21 March 2009, 11:06 AM	#11
rescue7 Banned Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Rescueguy Location: Here Watch: DSSD Posts: 1,129	I vote we authenticate the legitimate source to see the amount of professionalism he/she demonstrates in presenting a Baselfair rumour and seeing it come into fruition during these tough economic times. Wow, and I'm betting Rolex S.A will introduce something at Baselfair 2009, Why go there empty handed, come on folks Rolex holds the cards close to there chest, you can believe what and who you want, we will see in a weeks time.

21 March 2009, 11:46 AM	#12
Rolexshirts Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Jacob Location: Atlanta Watch: Rolex Daytona Posts: 124	Does it come next week ?

22 March 2009, 06:29 AM	#15
The GMT Master "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: England Posts: 8,150	Come on fellers, it's not as if the 16610 is selling badly. Introducing a new SS Sub will have no impact on sales at all for this year.

22 March 2009, 08:17 AM	#18
vapalux "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: Si Location: united kingdom Posts: 1,655	Besides it's not like they can keep up demand wise with hte GMTIIc in steel, it's like what a six month plus backorder? I keep saying it Rolex is seriously cutting back on their sport watches production wise. They want them to be scarce and appreciated. I could take my pick from an AD of a GMT IIc or one in TT. The more scarce they make them, the more money they cost, less people in the market place, less sales. Oh dear. It mat be a mistake they say! As for paying over the odds they can forget it for. I'll collect something else Si __________________

22 March 2009, 11:31 AM	#20
tthopp05 Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NY Watch: THE MIGHTY DEEPSEA Posts: 839	The only thing I know for sure is

22 March 2009, 11:35 AM	#22
ijen0311 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Jen Location: Jax, FL Watch: Sea-Dweller Posts: 3,977	my AD has a GMT II-c in the case

22 March 2009, 01:32 PM	#26
nylawbiz Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Brian Location: New York Watch: too many Posts: 705	FWIW, my AD told me today (in a very authorative manner) that at Basel Rolex is going to introduce the upgraded Sub, with a ceramic bezel and an upgraded bracelet. Who knows? I want to know if there is going to be a daytona date!

22 March 2009, 10:04 PM	#28
hwilsdorf Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 106	Hard to find? At least this AD is transparent. P.S. picture was taken on New Year's eve so the AD was closed (they removed some of the watches on display).

22 March 2009, 10:12 PM	#29
BigHat Banned Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Matt Location: Arlington, VA Watch: Lange One MP Posts: 4,043	Well, we all have our own opinions regarding the accuracy of pre-show predictions and so called authentic sources. For me, the thing I'm most waiting to see isn't a specific watch, but just how this year in general compares to years past and if the economy (watch demand) really appears to have altered their strategy.

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