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ralpie · 10 February 2020, 12:14 PM

Hey all,

I was just wondering what folks think about this topic.

Why does Rolex use an Oyster style clasp on the redesigned Jubilee? Older Jubilee bracelets had much more elegant (in my opinion) integrated clasp.

Even the new Tudor Jubilee uses a more elegant looking (again, to my eye) solution.

Below are photos of each.

Would love to hear some opinions on this.

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Auto16610 · 10 February 2020, 12:53 PM

The BB58 has such a sleek clasp compared to the 114060. I do like the Sub bracelet though.

Tools · 10 February 2020, 12:59 PM

Micro adjustments, safety lock, and EZ link... .

jvb.nc · 10 February 2020, 01:02 PM

super jubilee with hidden clasp. awesome

a lot of folks like the clasp for whatever reason and the fliplock doflotchie is dope.

kieselguhr · 10 February 2020, 01:07 PM

The Rolex jubilee in your picture is on a GMTIIC. It has space for both micro adjustment and ez link within the clasp which is quite befitting a sports watch. Very functional and makes a big difference with regard to fit.

Now that Tudor jubilee clasp looks great visually. That’s where it ends. The Tudor jubilee clasp along with the Rolex DJ that utilized the hidden clasp had very minimal adjustment options. If you wear your watch loose like a bracelet, this may be a non issue.

In fact, even modern Tudor dive watches that utilize the oyster design suffer from minimal adjustment options. (Exception for the Pelagos)

Nikrnic · 10 February 2020, 01:07 PM

I know what you mean. Rolex bracelets and clasps are top notch and sturdy as well but this seems more clean and user friendly. A deployment buckle with a 2mm push in pull out slide adjustment on each end of the clasp, You can go 2 or 4 mm total adjustment, plus half link as well for a perfect fit.

ralpie · 10 February 2020, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tools

Micro adjustments, safety lock, and EZ link... .

Quote:

Originally Posted by kieselguhr

The Rolex jubilee in your picture is on a GMTIIC. It has space for both micro adjustment and ez link within the clasp which is quite befitting a sports watch. Very functional and makes a big difference with regard to fit.

Now that Tudor jubilee clasp looks great visually. That’s where it ends. The Tudor jubilee clasp along with the Rolex DJ that utilized the hidden clasp had very minimal adjustment options. If you wear your watch loose like a bracelet, this may be a non issue.

In fact, even modern Tudor dive watches that utilize the oyster design suffer from minimal adjustment options. (Exception for the Pelagos)

Great points, thanks!

watchwatcher · 10 February 2020, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikrnic

I know what you mean. Rolex bracelets and clasps are top notch and sturdy as well but this seems more clean and user friendly. A deployment buckle with a 2mm push in pull out slide adjustment on each end of the clasp, You can go 2 or 4 mm total adjustment, plus half link as well for a perfect fit.

Stunning!

EndlessEight · 11 February 2020, 12:35 AM

Having the oyster lock on the sports models with jubilee bracelets makes sense.

Not offering the super jubilee bracelet on Datejust models doesn't. The current offering on the Datejust is a faux oyster lock which is a huge turn off to me.

Andrew NYC · 11 February 2020, 02:49 AM

While I certainly don't mind the new Jubilee with its excellent folding mechanism, micro-adjust, etc. I do like the look of a more integrated clasp. This was one of the reasons I recently put a Super Jubilee on my BLNR and also what I love about my Day-Date. I know that many find the lack of adjustment on these bracelets to be a significant downside, however, I've personally never had any issues with wearing them snugly on my wrist.

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GradyPhilpott · 11 February 2020, 03:19 AM

The original Jubilee bracelets had Oyster-style clasps.

The last thing I'd call any Rolex Jubilee is inelegant.

https://www.google.com/search?q=jubi...09969713962527

corkscrew · 11 February 2020, 03:59 AM

Oyster clasp on jubilee bracelet is a fail IMO. The integrated clasps were the best and I don’t understand why Rolex went to the new, incongruent set up.

ras47 · 11 February 2020, 05:13 AM

The Vacheron clasp is among the most elegant I've seen. The raised crown on the Rolex Super Jubilee is nice but not ideal imho. I'd prefer something flush. I believe Patek has something similar to the Vacheron clasp.

To me this is all a very minor detail. The basic clasp on my GMT Oyster bracelet is fine for me. It's just not something to which I devote a lot of thought. As long as it's comfortable and not too intrusive, I'm good to go.

j-watch · 11 February 2020, 07:16 AM

Not that I think what you said was wrong, but when it comes to the BLRO and BLNR, I think the flip-lock with easy link clasp belongs as Rolex has designed it. It's a sport watch clasp, and those pieces are sports pieces.

The regular Jubilee is very elegant, for sure. I feel like it's better suited for a date just or more dressy type timepiece. Just my 2 cent.s

georgekart · 11 February 2020, 09:26 AM

Hidden clasp looks better, but to some of us, being able to adjust it is nice (mainly those who like it tight around their wrist) and it is not possible with hidden clasp the Jubilee used to have, so I'm happy they added an Oysterclasp for DJ and Oysterlock for the GMT.

cerendigit · 11 February 2020, 09:31 AM

For me, the jubilee with hidden clasp is too dressy for the pepsi/batgirl (which are supposed to be "sports"-style). The clasp matches the "style" of the GMT.

The hidden clasps look good on date-justs and (for the president bracelet) daydates, because those are more "dressy" looking.

EndlessEight · 11 February 2020, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cerendigit

For me, the jubilee with hidden clasp is too dressy for the pepsi/batgirl (which are supposed to be "sports"-style). The clasp matches the "style" of the GMT.

The hidden clasps look good on date-justs and (for the president bracelet) daydates, because those are more "dressy" looking.

Lol. No one reads any preceding posts.

EndlessEight · 11 February 2020, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by j-watch

Not that I think what you said was wrong, but when it comes to the BLRO and BLNR, I think the flip-lock with easy link clasp belongs as Rolex has designed it. It's a sport watch clasp, and those pieces are sports pieces.

The regular Jubilee is very elegant, for sure. I feel like it's better suited for a date just or more dressy type timepiece. Just my 2 cent.s

Same comment applies.

Easy E · 11 February 2020, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EndlessEight

Lol. No one reads any preceding posts.

Fact

mdubya · 11 February 2020, 12:05 PM

Rolex has it right. Hidden clasp on dress models (Day Date) and flip lock on sports models. BLRO with hidden clasp would be out of place. Although Datejust might be better with hidden clasp.

Partagas · 11 February 2020, 12:24 PM

One of my DateJust's has the super jubilee. It's a fantastic bracelet and looks great on the DJ. Rolex should've kept that style clasp for the dressy DJ IMHO.

txjohn · 11 February 2020, 12:41 PM

I don’t like the hidden clasp , oyster style for me

watchmework · 11 February 2020, 02:05 PM

On a watch like the GMT I prefer the jubilee with the easy link clasp. The hidden clasp is better for a more formal watch imo.

10 February 2020, 12:14 PM	#1
ralpie 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: Ral P Location: Northeast Posts: 2,405	Rolex Jubilee inelegance vs Tudor Jubilee Hey all, I was just wondering what folks think about this topic. Why does Rolex use an Oyster style clasp on the redesigned Jubilee? Older Jubilee bracelets had much more elegant (in my opinion) integrated clasp. Even the new Tudor Jubilee uses a more elegant looking (again, to my eye) solution. Below are photos of each. Would love to hear some opinions on this. Sent from my Pixel 4 using Tapatalk

10 February 2020, 12:53 PM	#2
Auto16610 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Scott Location: Santa Cruz Watch: RolexOmegaPanerai Posts: 1,182	I also wonder The BB58 has such a sleek clasp compared to the 114060. I do like the Sub bracelet though.

10 February 2020, 12:59 PM	#3
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,514	Micro adjustments, safety lock, and EZ link... . __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

10 February 2020, 01:02 PM	#4
jvb.nc "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Real Name: Jonathan Location: NC / CA Watch: 228206meteorite Posts: 1,333	super jubilee with hidden clasp. awesome a lot of folks like the clasp for whatever reason and the fliplock doflotchie is dope. __________________ 116710blnr / 116610lv / 216750 polar / 126600 mk1 / 116500ln / 126710blro / 228206 meteorite / 126719 meteorite / Pelagos 25600 // insta @jvbphotos

10 February 2020, 01:07 PM	#5
kieselguhr "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Real Name: Nick Location: Las Vegas Watch: 1601 Posts: 10,623	Rolex Jubilee inelegance vs Tudor Jubilee The Rolex jubilee in your picture is on a GMTIIC. It has space for both micro adjustment and ez link within the clasp which is quite befitting a sports watch. Very functional and makes a big difference with regard to fit. Now that Tudor jubilee clasp looks great visually. That’s where it ends. The Tudor jubilee clasp along with the Rolex DJ that utilized the hidden clasp had very minimal adjustment options. If you wear your watch loose like a bracelet, this may be a non issue. In fact, even modern Tudor dive watches that utilize the oyster design suffer from minimal adjustment options. (Exception for the Pelagos)

10 February 2020, 01:07 PM	#6
Nikrnic "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Real Name: Louis Nick Ric Location: Michigan, USA Watch: Blnr, Expll, Subs, Posts: 10,172	I know what you mean. Rolex bracelets and clasps are top notch and sturdy as well but this seems more clean and user friendly. A deployment buckle with a 2mm push in pull out slide adjustment on each end of the clasp, You can go 2 or 4 mm total adjustment, plus half link as well for a perfect fit.

11 February 2020, 12:35 AM	#9
EndlessEight 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: NJ, USA Watch: Hulk, BLRO Posts: 1,644	Having the oyster lock on the sports models with jubilee bracelets makes sense. Not offering the super jubilee bracelet on Datejust models doesn't. The current offering on the Datejust is a faux oyster lock which is a huge turn off to me.

11 February 2020, 02:49 AM	#10
Andrew NYC 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: NYC Posts: 336	While I certainly don't mind the new Jubilee with its excellent folding mechanism, micro-adjust, etc. I do like the look of a more integrated clasp. This was one of the reasons I recently put a Super Jubilee on my BLNR and also what I love about my Day-Date. I know that many find the lack of adjustment on these bracelets to be a significant downside, however, I've personally never had any issues with wearing them snugly on my wrist. [/url] [/url]

11 February 2020, 03:19 AM	#11
GradyPhilpott 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New Mexico Watch: Seiko #SRK050 Posts: 34,460	The original Jubilee bracelets had Oyster-style clasps. The last thing I'd call any Rolex Jubilee is inelegant. https://www.google.com/search?q=jubi...09969713962527 Attached Images __________________ JJ Inaugural TRF $50 Watch Challenge Winner

11 February 2020, 03:59 AM	#12
corkscrew "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 33	Oyster clasp on jubilee bracelet is a fail IMO. The integrated clasps were the best and I don’t understand why Rolex went to the new, incongruent set up.

11 February 2020, 05:13 AM	#13
ras47 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Real Name: Robert Location: Northern NJ Watch: 16710 BLRO Posts: 3,064	The Vacheron clasp is among the most elegant I've seen. The raised crown on the Rolex Super Jubilee is nice but not ideal imho. I'd prefer something flush. I believe Patek has something similar to the Vacheron clasp. To me this is all a very minor detail. The basic clasp on my GMT Oyster bracelet is fine for me. It's just not something to which I devote a lot of thought. As long as it's comfortable and not too intrusive, I'm good to go. __________________ Rolex GMT Master II BLRO 16710 Omega Speedmaster Co-Axial Chrono

11 February 2020, 07:16 AM	#14
j-watch "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: Joe Location: Wisconsin Watch: HULK, BLRO, 16523 Posts: 605	Not that I think what you said was wrong, but when it comes to the BLRO and BLNR, I think the flip-lock with easy link clasp belongs as Rolex has designed it. It's a sport watch clasp, and those pieces are sports pieces. The regular Jubilee is very elegant, for sure. I feel like it's better suited for a date just or more dressy type timepiece. Just my 2 cent.s

11 February 2020, 09:26 AM	#15
georgekart "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Earth Posts: 1,550	Hidden clasp looks better, but to some of us, being able to adjust it is nice (mainly those who like it tight around their wrist) and it is not possible with hidden clasp the Jubilee used to have, so I'm happy they added an Oysterclasp for DJ and Oysterlock for the GMT.

11 February 2020, 09:31 AM	#16
cerendigit "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Seattle Watch: f91w Posts: 1,078	For me, the jubilee with hidden clasp is too dressy for the pepsi/batgirl (which are supposed to be "sports"-style). The clasp matches the "style" of the GMT. The hidden clasps look good on date-justs and (for the president bracelet) daydates, because those are more "dressy" looking.

11 February 2020, 12:05 PM	#20
mdubya "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Canada Posts: 132	Rolex has it right. Hidden clasp on dress models (Day Date) and flip lock on sports models. BLRO with hidden clasp would be out of place. Although Datejust might be better with hidden clasp.

11 February 2020, 12:24 PM	#21
Partagas "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: USA Watch: Rolex DD Posts: 306	One of my DateJust's has the super jubilee. It's a fantastic bracelet and looks great on the DJ. Rolex should've kept that style clasp for the dressy DJ IMHO.

11 February 2020, 12:41 PM	#22
txjohn "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: texas Posts: 41	I don’t like the hidden clasp , oyster style for me

11 February 2020, 02:05 PM	#23
watchmework "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: DC Watch: 126710BLRO, 116600 Posts: 7,869	On a watch like the GMT I prefer the jubilee with the easy link clasp. The hidden clasp is better for a more formal watch imo.

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