Hi! Why do Pepsis have so much more value than Batmans now?

[MyRolexwatch]

Hi guys

I am new to the Rolex forums and i am already in love! I donated to be a pledge member and i can not wait to start a new chapter with all of you guys!

So I own both 126710BLNR and 126710BLRO, as time passed by i have noticed how much the Batmans have dropped and pepsis are keeping more up value. Is their a reason why this is happening? is Batmans more saturated? I know they only produce x amount of each watch a year prior to being same numbers. I have heard a lot of ADs get more Batmans.

What do you guys think?

Thank you and looking forward to hearing it all from you guys!

Chris

[dba]

The classic red and blue insert will always be more popular than any of the other versions, in either of the materials.

[1665fan]

Lower production numbers....

[Big J]

I would guess more demand for the BLRO over the BLNR.

[Calatrava r]

The BLRO bezel is much harder to get right and it competes for three models in the current line-up. Thus. much less SS BLROs are delivered than the BLNR. Additionally, the Pepsi is simply more popular in the secondary causing a higher premium.

[Ballzzz]

Because people prefer sugar over superheros man Come ON now!

PS Both are massed produced watches nothing rare here.

[brucethemanlee]

because its cooler!!

[bardm]

Because you get two colors instead of one

[samson66]

More historical significance in the red/blue scheme than the newer blue/black

[Bigblu10]

Originally Posted by Ballzzz

Because people prefer sugar over superheros man Come ON now!

PS Both are massed produced watches nothing rare here.

Batman and Batgirl had two children and decided to name them Pepsi and Coke

[mykii]

Fewer production numbers, more rare re:resale numbers, basically impossible to get at an AD to your average Joe, the "classic" Rollie GMT colorway option, looks better, etc.

[Batmannr1]

There are a lot more BLNRs on the market then SS BLROs. BLNR is being produced since 2013. SS BLRO since 2018.


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[Mystro]

They are both the same watch with the same yearly production numbers. Current trends in which people prefer at this moment in time. The BLRO only took off when it was released in SS. The BLNR was on fire for years since it was introduced years ago so it’s been out there and seen longer, hence not new looking with lots of black/blue bezels in the wild.

For a little more explanation: The watch hype trends are cyclical and ever changing as many current “hot” models today like the LVc (Hulk) or even Daytona were never desirable for a lot of their life when initially introduced. Dial colors also rotates in which will demand more money but even that is cyclical. With the conservative styling of Rolex watches, You almost can’t make a bad Rolex purchase providing you are buying the watch you like.

[watchmework]

1) first GMT master and developed/linked to Pan Am so more and longer history
2) more colorful scheme
3) Tom Selleck but seriously.
4) Been a long time since the Pepsi was available in SS and paired with a jubilee.

[Ballzzz]

Originally Posted by Bigblu10

Batman and Batgirl had two children and decided to name them Pepsi and Coke

Possibly too much coke, who knows

[Likestheshiny]

There are a lot more BLNRs on the market then SS BLROs. BLNR is being produced since 2013. SS BLRO since 2018.

Almost certainly this. We don't really know what the production numbers look like, but five extra years of BLNRs put them way ahead regardless. The newer jubilee version is technically a new watch, and probably did re-stoke demand a bit, but in the end it's mostly just a different bracelet.

The impressive thing about the BLNR is that it's still this popular (and expensive) seven years after its initial release. It's gone from being the hot new thing to a permanent popular watch.

[Divingdeep87]

Originally Posted by Likestheshiny

Almost certainly this. We don't really know what the production numbers look like, but five extra years of BLNRs put them way ahead regardless. The newer jubilee version is technically a new watch, and probably did re-stoke demand a bit, but in the end it's mostly just a different bracelet.

The impressive thing about the BLNR is that it's still this popular (and expensive) seven years after its initial release. It's gone from being the hot new thing to a permanent popular watch.

It was actually not a hot new thing to start with. Discounts could be had untill two years ago.

[Bluside]

Supply and demand with a bit of FOMO thrown in.

[Achtung6]

Rolex (and Ferrari) are by far the masters of the illusion of exclusivity. No one does it better. Just look at all the ideas expressed here. How many of us are Rolex insiders who are posting information that is known to be true vs. opinion/guessing. I’m just curious.


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[42itus]

Originally Posted by Mystro

They are both the same watch with the same yearly production numbers. Current trends in which people prefer at this moment in time. The BLRO only took off when it was released in SS. The BLNR was on fire for years since it was introduced years ago so it’s been out there and seen longer, hence not new looking with lots of black/blue bezels in the wild.

For a little more explanation: The watch hype trends are cyclical and ever changing as many current “hot” models today like the LVc (Hulk) or even Daytona were never desirable for a lot of their life when initially introduced. Dial colors also rotates in which will demand more money but even that is cyclical. With the conservative styling of Rolex watches, You almost can’t make a bad Rolex purchase providing you are buying the watch you like.

This. Just read this.


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[Ny325]

I'm not a fan of the " Hulk." I prefer a understated look. I'm not a fan of red either. So the Rolex "Coke" is out too. I prefer a conservative color watch.

[KVNNSCHNG]

Originally Posted by 1665fan

Lower production numbers....

... Where are you getting these production numbers from?

[faimag]

Originally Posted by Mystro

They are both the same watch with the same yearly production numbers. Current trends in which people prefer at this moment in time. The BLRO only took off when it was released in SS. The BLNR was on fire for years since it was introduced years ago so it’s been out there and seen longer, hence not new looking with lots of black/blue bezels in the wild.

For a little more explanation: The watch hype trends are cyclical and ever changing as many current “hot” models today like the LVc (Hulk) or even Daytona were never desirable for a lot of their life when initially introduced. Dial colors also rotates in which will demand more money but even that is cyclical. With the conservative styling of Rolex watches, You almost can’t make a bad Rolex purchase providing you are buying the watch you like.

well said.

[Mystro]

Originally Posted by Nejmann

It was actually not a hot new thing to start with. Discounts could be had untill two years ago.

That is kinda true.

Historical forum inside view for our new members:

It wasn’t that long ago we lived in a different climate of Rolex buying when there wasn’t any frenzy like it is today. The BLNR and SS Daytona were one of the first modern Rolex models that gave a insight that we were heading into a different Rolex buying climate. The tea leaves are clear as day when looking back at them now.
At that time the BLNR had a high premium over the all black ceramic GMT model. The BLNR being the very first model to have a two color ceramic bezel was a hot/unique look many easily paid more to own. (That is it’s historical Rolex significance).
Then when the LVC (Hulk) started to get noticed 5 years after its introduction, the royal forum battle of “BLNR vs LVC” was the topic for years. Both camps of these two awesome watches heavily defended their position why one watch was more desirable. The LVC, even taking sideline shots that it was not as good as the original LV from Lv owners. (Sound familiar? As Rolex fear of change is not a new thing)

Fast forward 4+ years and there is a new forum watch battle. The players are different and the priorities have shifted to what and why a watch might be more desirable today from our priorities just four years ago.

[neophyte88]

The way I looked at the concept,.(Rolex hit the gold rush when the first designed it) because pepsi cola eversince (esp here in America) are more popular drinks than coca cola & other colas.
Look at the advertising, years & years way back, Pepsi spent so
much dough endorsed by highest paid celebrities & singers.

Kindly pardon my own opinion.

[Ihatecheese]

I feel the pepsi is also more recognisable. Those who do not follow Rolex would not associate the brand with blue black be it Batman or Batgirl.. But far more chance with the Pepsi, it has been in popular culture and copied for decades.

[s14roller]

Nothing against the BLNR and oddly while I like blue and black colors, I’ve never wanted the BLNR (and I’ve had the opportunity twice). It’s strange, couldnt tell you why. The Pepsi on the otherhand is a lot of fun.

[GoingPlaces]

Pepsi is historically significant. Batman a 100% modern reference.

[GSBC]

I have both the Batman and the Pepsi.
I don’t know about current or future values, and will leave it to others to speculate.
All I know is that the Pepsi is more desirable between the two. I’d put the Pepsi even over my 116500LN white dial.

[GSBC]

Originally Posted by Nejmann

It was actually not a hot new thing to start with. Discounts could be had untill two years ago.

Yep, I bought my BLNR in July 2017 with a 10% discount. (Hulk with the same 10% discount the year prior.)
The good old days. Not that long ago, but feels like it.