Audemars Piguet (Re)master01 hands on

[biaoist]

I still cannot believe that AP Code 11.59 launch was a disappointment given the marketing push it had. When AP (Re)master01 released with Code 11.59 chronograph movement, it was totally refreshing to see the VCesque horn lug and vintage reissue watch offer from Audmars Piguet. It's two tone rose gold and steel case with gold color salmon like dial makes the watch look really fantastic. Of course the finishing of AP doesn't disappoint. I only wish the price can be easy on the credit card.

Let's talk about the watch name
It's called (Re)master01 and leaves a lot of room for imagination with "( )" and "01". It appears to me that AP wants to create a "Master" line which goes with their golf sponsorship and their vintage reissues. I won't be surprised to see (grand)master02 in the future.

What do you think about the watch and name?

[AshAP]

Have you put a filter on your photos? The blue hands aren’t showing as being blue in your post.


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[biaoist]

Originally Posted by AshAP

Have you put a filter on your photos? The blue hands aren’t showing as being blue in your post.


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Dunno, but the light in the boutique is very yellowish

[Chromosome]

it is 1 million times nicer than 11:59

[P2725TMB]

From the wrist shot my immediate reaction is it looks quite feminine in overall design feel and would actually look really good on a ladies wrist.

From the side pic it appears the dial is distorted - is this because the crystal is domed?

From a marketing perspective I think along with CODE 11:59 the name is poor, as is the pricing. As you say, the 01 strongly suggests it maybe the first of a string of similar releases...

[biaoist]

Originally Posted by P2725TMB

From the side pic it appears the dial is distorted - is this because the crystal is domed?

great observation, it is doomed crystal.. usually those watches are hard to take a clean photo

[AshAP]

I don’t like the side view imo it’s too chunky.


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[P2725TMB]

I admit I generally do like domed crystals, they look pleasing and add a bit of interest, my DeepSea has one as does my Omega Sea Master Planet Ocean. The crystal on the Rem01 looks like quite a pronounced dome, although it may not be so in real life.

[Reign]

Wish it was white gold or platinum, I find TT with SS to be too cheap.

Dial is great although depth seems deep! At this price level, it goes head to head with the ALS 1815 and I think you get way more watch with the ALS

[AK797]

Originally Posted by AshAP

I don’t like the side view imo it’s too chunky.


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Yes looks thick, like the Romans Dato actually, hockey-puckish, which is what put me off that model. 42mm might have been better as with the updated Dato.

In your first pics it looks like one metal and that works, so a RG/WG and black dial for example will look very nice and classy as a dressy sports watch.

Movement looks good there, could have done with a skeletonised or smaller rotor, esp as it will be up against the Lange 1815 which has just about the most pleasing chrono movement of all.

[GoingPlaces]

Yes, too chunky. Also, not a fan of the bi-metal colors and the price. Does not look 50K nice. ALS 1815 all day. I guess the only thing I like about it is the dial.

[bigjack78]

Nice looking watch, dumb name

[1William]

An interesting watch that misses the market again for me from AP. I don't know who is pushing these watches but staff should take a pause and think about what AP is, not what they want it to be. The 11.59 last year was a complete bust of an introduction and could be studied for how not to release watches. The cost is amazing and should result in few to no sales until super discounted or busted out in the secondary market.

[conkers]

Great piece for sure.

[chiscott_29]

Great post and pics, OP and conkers.

I genuinely like the dial and caseback, and if this is a new line then I’m certainly in the group that is excited to see more. However, the rest of the watch doesn’t come together for me personally. I may be more critical because I feel the price point is atrocious and at this price range I don’t think this watch is even in the Top 10 of what else you could have.

I also agree it appears way too chunky, but that just could be perspective of the pics. It can be super difficult to get the proper angle.

[AK797]

Interesting that the new Germany ROO has a slight two tone touch that got a little bit of criticism but largely has been applauded, maybe this gave AP the feeling a more full two tone would go down well, but they have misjudged this, should have brought the TT out after the full metals.

[sokoloka]

Originally Posted by AK797

Interesting that the new Germany ROO has a slight two tone touch that got a little bit of criticism but largely has been applauded, maybe this gave AP the feeling a more full two tone would go down well, but they have misjudged this, should have brought the TT out after the full metals.

Actually a point I hadn't thought of - I generally am vehemently against two tone watches but my PoG has become my favorite of the bunch, even over my RG44.

Maybe I'm not the anti-two-tone I thought I was ...


That being said I did swap the buckle on my PoG for an RG one so my two tone is a little more balanced haha.

[AK797]

Originally Posted by sokoloka

Actually a point I hadn't thought of - I generally am vehemently against two tone watches but my PoG has become my favorite of the bunch, even over my RG44.

Maybe I'm not the anti-two-tone I thought I was ...


That being said I did swap the buckle on my PoG for an RG one so my two tone is a little more balanced haha.

Indeed Eric it was your pic in the photo thread that got me thinking.

[VFA]

It is a beautiful piece. I love a vintage reissue and AP has done a great job on this modernized reissue. Yes its a bit thick and maybe a bit big but that's the modernized "master" part of the watch.

The two tone works exceptionally well on this watch and the dial is perfection. Those who complain about the TT case, the original was TT. The reissue has to be TT as well and it works.

I am very excited to see what other vintage pieces they will choose to remaster. I love it. 9/10

[Mercman1]

Looks nice but not keen on the two tone scheme.


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[mongrelnomoad]

It looked better in pictures.

[AK797]

Originally Posted by VFA

It is a beautiful piece. I love a vintage reissue and AP has done a great job on this modernized reissue. Yes its a bit thick and maybe a bit big but that's the modernized "master" part of the watch.

The two tone works exceptionally well on this watch and the dial is perfection. Those who complain about the TT case, the original was TT. The reissue has to be TT as well and it works.

I am very excited to see what other vintage pieces they will choose to remaster. I love it. 9/10

Well as it has been re-mastered/modernised so updating it to SS or Gold is far more of our Zeitgeist than TT, and clearly would have been the more acceptable option to most, use the original as inspiration sure, but as it is an almost unknown ref they did not need to replicate it so closely.

[Cru Jones]

Sorry, but to me, it makes the Code look good in comparison.

The neo-vintage look is wrong for AP. The profile is thick (14.6!!) and not elegant. The name is absurd.

[Justindo]

I realize that it's based on a vintage piece, but the combination of a steel case with rose gold accents is not something that should be resurrected on a high end watch today, in my opinion. The case itself with the lugs, pushers, and crown is attractive but the medley of a yellow gold colored dial, rose gold accents, and a steel case is an odd one, to say the least. I think AP should have gone with a solid platinum, white gold, or steel case with that dial. Also, the movement, while nice enough, is not really vintage inspired, being that it's an automatic, which is at a completely different level compared to high end manual chronographs. Yes, the watch is still better than the horrid CODE 11.59 (what isn't?) but when you consider that an all rose gold VC Cornes de Vache with a manual movement, superior finishing, and the Geneva Seal lists for $600 less than this (and one could argue that it's overpriced compared to a Lange 1815) and the same watch in steel lists for $14,100 less, the price of this terribly named AP becomes laughable. This watch might be an interesting, if flawed, idea with an MSRP of $29,900 or less.

[MichaelFlash]

I greatly dislike it.

[Sho-nuff]

Originally Posted by Justindo

but when you consider that an all rose gold VC Cornes de Vache with a manual movement, superior finishing, and the Geneva Seal lists for $600 less than this (and one could argue that it's overpriced compared to a Lange 1815) and the same watch in steel lists for $14,100 less, the price of this terribly named AP becomes laughable.

I agree with you that the AP is massively overpriced, but bear in mind that the VC Cornes de Vache uses a Breguet movement. At this price point, an in-house movement is an important differentiator for many buyers.

[Swaye]

I'm a buyer at 11MM thick, manual wind, and 30K. But it's brick thick, auto, and absurdly overpriced.

[Justindo]

Originally Posted by Sho-nuff

I agree with you that the AP is massively overpriced, but bear in mind that the VC Cornes de Vache uses a Breguet movement. At this price point, an in-house movement is an important differentiator for many buyers.

Yes and no. Yes, the VC 1142 in the Cornes de Vache is based on the Lemania 2310 that has been used by Patek, VC, Breguet, Roger Dubuis (from which VC obtained the rights to the design), and Omega but VC has modified it and it is now totally produced and finished in-house by VC so the design and especially the finishing is far beyond what Breguet does with the movement. (This is apparent when you view Breguet's version and VC's version under a loup.) In fact, the 1142 goes beyond what Patek did with it in terms of modification and finishing in the 5070, which was superior to the finishing, if not the design, of Patek's current in-house chronograph. Thus, the VC 1142 is not a true in-house designed movement but it is, in fact, a true fully in-house produced and finished movement. Yes, the AP automatic chronograph movement is a true in-house design, which can't be said of the VC or the Breguet, but the AP's finishing is inferior to Breguet and far inferior to VC.

[Sho-nuff]

Justindo, many thanks for the additional details, that's very helpful to know. I had always thought the VC 1142 originates from the Breguet 2320 design, which is Breguet's already heavily modified version of the Lemania 2310. I didn't realise the VC 1142 had no connection with Breguet, so thanks for the clarification.

[punta del este]

I really liked the initial release pictures, but looking at it here the bezel/case thickness is way too thick. Would need to see more pics, but a bit of a turn off