15300 availability and market price

[ialienam]

I have a decent relationship with my boutique, and I were being told that I could expect to pick up my jumbo this year or next (that’s all before lockdown etc etc)

Anyway I somehow just feel if I should go after a 15300 (let say a blue dial), because it comes with a second hand and quickset date.

However, pls correct me if wrong, it seems like a preowned 15300 blue is more expensive than a brand new Jumbo RRP?? (Assume no further increase)

Would you pull the trigger if you were me?

Or go after a black or silver dial?

[Fishrus]

Pretty sure most ppl would pick the jumbo in a heartbeat especially if you can get it at rrp.

All blue dial steel models seem to have a crazy premium on preowned now so rrp would get you your best bang for bucks.

[TankTom]

Jumbo for sure. But the AD says you will get it this year or next (and said that before lockdown). That means you might be waiting best part of 2 years for it. Buy the 15300 and then sell it when you get the call for the jumbo.

[J to the Z]

Blue dial 15300 is definitely trading higher than RRP on a 15202. I think the price of a blue dial 15300 has come up as those who can't get their hands on a 15202 at RRP turn to the blue dial 15300 as it's still trading for less than the 15202.

Personally I love my silver dial 15300. It's nearly as thin as a 15202, has a seconds hand and a quickset date, and I picked it up for even less than RRP on a 15202. I love the 15202 though, but for those of us who aren't high up on the list for one at a boutique or AD I think the 15300 is a really solid choice.

[mineral]

Definitely the original jumbo 15202 if you can get it.


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[robertengel]

15202 without hesitation, don't forget that when you buy a 15 year old watch you are also buying every drop and bump that it went through. A new 15202 will probably be more reliable mechanically (even if the movement has its own limitations due to its size).

[chiscott_29]

I contemplated this and eventually just went with the 15202. I didn't have the luxury of getting it at RRP, though. So, if that's really a viable option and you are patient, I'd wait it out.

Finding a very nice blue dial 15300 example is getting extraordinarily difficult, and you should expect to pay north of $32,000 USD (at least prior to all this craziness) unless you're willing to compromise on condition and B&P. Keep in mind, most 15300's are also going to be due for a servicing if they haven't had one, so that's also around $1,200 USD or more.

[J to the Z]

Originally Posted by chiscott_29

I contemplated this and eventually just went with the 15202. I didn't have the luxury of getting it at RRP, though. So, if that's really a viable option and you are patient, I'd wait it out.

Finding a very nice blue dial 15300 example is getting extraordinarily difficult, and you should expect to pay north of $32,000 USD (at least prior to all this craziness) unless you're willing to compromise on condition and B&P. Keep in mind, most 15300's are also going to be due for a servicing if they haven't had one, so that's also around $1,200 USD or more.

There are some ways to limit your downside on a 15300 though. If you go to a boutique, AP can use the serial number to look up a watch's service history (only through AP's service centers of course). Also if you're buying through a trustworthy dealer then you could negotiate a warranty so in case the watch starts losing/gaining time then your service would be covered.

[V25V]

Originally Posted by chiscott_29

I contemplated this and eventually just went with the 15202. I didn't have the luxury of getting it at RRP, though. So, if that's really a viable option and you are patient, I'd wait it out.

Finding a very nice blue dial 15300 example is getting extraordinarily difficult, and you should expect to pay north of $32,000 USD (at least prior to all this craziness) unless you're willing to compromise on condition and B&P. Keep in mind, most 15300's are also going to be due for a servicing if they haven't had one, so that's also around $1,200 USD or more.

If someone offered me $32,000 for my blue 15300, it may need to go. I love it but that's crazy.


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[TankTom]

Originally Posted by J to the Z

There are some ways to limit your downside on a 15300 though. If you go to a boutique, AP can use the serial number to look up a watch's service history (only through AP's service centers of course). Also if you're buying through a trustworthy dealer then you could negotiate a warranty so in case the watch starts losing/gaining time then your service would be covered.

Yes but a watch that is several + years old is always going to be a risky buy IMO. Just simply due to its age and not knowing how the previous owner(s) have treated it

[Jp28]

Originally Posted by TankTom

Yes but a watch that is several + years old is always going to be a risky buy IMO. Just simply due to its age and not knowing how the previous owner(s) have treated it

You can quantify that risk pretty easily. It is simply the cost of a service at most.

[Benzsiam]

If you can get 15202 brand new from AP ADs at $25800+tax, go for it, grey markets are asking for more than $40000.

[Jp28]

Originally Posted by ialienam

I have a decent relationship with my boutique, and I were being told that I could expect to pick up my jumbo this year or next (that’s all before lockdown etc etc)

Anyway I somehow just feel if I should go after a 15300 (let say a blue dial), because it comes with a second hand and quickset date.

However, pls correct me if wrong, it seems like a preowned 15300 blue is more expensive than a brand new Jumbo RRP?? (Assume no further increase)

Would you pull the trigger if you were me?

Or go after a black or silver dial?

I have the same issue that I need the second hand to see the watch is ‘alive’.
If it is a big issue for you the there is little point waiting for the jumbo. If it is less of an issue the. I would wait for the jumbo and try it out as if you do not like it it will be an easy trade out to the 15300 (I would imagine there would be a queue !!)

[ialienam]

Thanks guys!! wow didn't realise that a blue 15300 is $32k?!

Anyway even at $25,800 for a 15300 is a bit too much for me, I like it, in fact more than a Jumbo..
But paying this for a 10+ years old watch is hard for me.

But you guys right, there is no guarantee I would get my Jumbo this year. Based on my experience with my sales, when I am really on the list, she would say so. When I first met her, she politely "told" me the waiting list is too long, no bother to put me on.

It was only early this year, after I picked up my new AP she said yes you are now on the list and between 2020 - 21, I could expect to receive one. No guarantee, but I do feel good about my chance.

For 15300, if not blue, silver or black?

[mineral]

Originally Posted by ialienam

Thanks guys!! wow didn't realise that a blue 15300 is $32k?!

Anyway even at $25,800 for a 15300 is a bit too much for me, I like it, in fact more than a Jumbo..
But paying this for a 10+ years old watch is hard for me.

But you guys right, there is no guarantee I would get my Jumbo this year. Based on my experience with my sales, when I am really on the list, she would say so. When I first met her, she politely "told" me the waiting list is too long, no bother to put me on.

It was only early this year, after I picked up my new AP she said yes you are now on the list and between 2020 - 21, I could expect to receive one. No guarantee, but I do feel good about my chance.

For 15300, if not blue, silver or black?

I own the 15300 black and I like the matte black look of the dial. In addition the dial appeared as grey in certain angle and just gorgeous.


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[tcheeco]

Originally Posted by Ccpcrs

I’m actually looking in selling it. Any interested can pm

It doesn’t work here... they will ban you if you behave like that

[JCC296]

Originally Posted by tcheeco

It doesn’t work here... they will ban you if you behave like that

Yes. Joined this month and with 5 posts (all trying to sell a watch without proper listing and meeting guideline...)

[Kliminator]

There is one for sale on TRF for $29k. Says it's serviced in 2017. Blue dial. jfyi

Based on paperwork looks like service was warranty work.

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=737060

[Token74]

Wait for the 15202 if what you care about is the hype, the investment opportunity, and the people on this forum (some of which are fanboys rather than buyers/collectors.

Alternatively, get the one you prefer!

I was in the same boat a little while ago and had decided to get the 15202. Then I compared the two watches and decided I preferred the slightly more rugged 15300 to the slightly more elegant 15202. And I absolutely prefer to have a seconds hand, I like to see that the watch is alive, it’s part of the joy for me.

So I got the 15300 and am glad I did. I might add a 15202 as it is a different look but it’s unlikely as not sure it’s quite different enough, and I definitely won’t replace the 15300 with one.

Get the one you prefer, whether it be the 15300 or the 15202.

Good luck and enjoy the decision, both amazing watches


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[Kliminator]

Originally Posted by Token74

Wait for the 15202 if what you care about is the hype, the investment opportunity, and the people on this forum (some of which are fanboys rather than buyers/collectors.

Alternatively, get the one you prefer!

I was in the same boat a little while ago and had decided to get the 15202. Then I compared the two watches and decided I preferred the slightly more rugged 15300 to the slightly more elegant 15202. And I absolutely prefer to have a seconds hand, I like to see that the watch is alive, it’s part of the joy for me.

So I got the 15300 and am glad I did. I might add a 15202 as it is a different look but it’s unlikely as not sure it’s quite different enough, and I definitely won’t replace the 15300 with one.

Get the one you prefer, whether it be the 15300 or the 15202.

Good luck and enjoy the decision, both amazing watches


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15300 also has quick set date which the jumbo does not. Just something else to keep in mind as well

[karasus]

Originally Posted by Kliminator

15300 also has quick set date which the jumbo does not. Just something else to keep in mind as well

I had the 5402ST, I was always a pain for me to set the date on the thing... Prefer the 15300ST. I'm also bothered by non hacking seconds on the 324 5711s, but hey its just my own OCD

[descartes]

The 15300 is really a killer. I’m not surprised the price is skyrocketing especially for the blue dial considering where the Nautilus and RO 15202 are trading. The slightly more robust feel of the 15300 is a bonus if you don’t intend for the watch to be a safe queen.




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[Token74]

Originally Posted by mineral

I own the 15300 black and I like the matte black look of the dial. In addition the dial appeared as grey in certain angle and just gorgeous.


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Same here, the black dial is the only one with sunburst which is spectacular in the right light.


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[Token74]

Originally Posted by Jp28

You can quantify that risk pretty easily. It is simply the cost of a service at most.

Exactly! I really don’t understand why people fret so much, these things really aren’t as delicate as people think. It would be different if we were talking about a 25820, but we’re not.


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[mineral]

Originally Posted by Token74

Same here, the black dial is the only one with sunburst which is spectacular in the right light.


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Thanks and the black dial is very versatile too and goes well with formal office or weekend attire. One of my favorite actually among the three colors dials


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[Token74]

Originally Posted by mineral

Thanks and the black dial is very versatile too and goes well with formal office or weekend attire. One of my favorite actually among the three colors dials


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Likewise.




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[Tjp730]

Hello all. Does anyone have an update on this? What's the current market price for these black dial 15300's?

[agsstructures]

Originally Posted by Tjp730

Hello all. Does anyone have an update on this? What's the current market price for these black dial 15300's?

Would say $55-$60k for a full set which are tough to come by. Most I see are over polished and watch only.

Cant imagine pricing is going to get any better

[horologyhour]

52000-53000 for black dial, watch only

[DonLee]

honestly, I like the 15300st over than the Jumbo.

same size, a little thicker, but has a seconds hand.